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The Implications of a Facebook Society

FloatsomNJetsom writes "The site Switched.com is taking a look at the slow death of privacy at the hands of social media sites such as Facebook and MySpace with a link to a report on the creepy practice of Facebook employees monitoring what pages you look at and a thought-provoking video interview with social media expert Clay Shirky — who says that social networks are profoundly changing our ability to keep our private lives private. 'Eventually, Shirky theorizes, society will have to create a space that's implicitly private even though it's technically public, not unlike a personal conversation held on a public street. Otherwise, our ability to keep our lives private will be forever destroyed. Of course, that might already be the case.'"

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  1. Re:Private Lives Private by plague3106 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why should you care what your employees do privately? So he told people he got drunk and screwed a fat chic? So what? Maybe instead of concerning yourself with what-ifs, you should worry about what actually happens. People in your company right NOW could be doing those things, you just don't know about it.

    You're not paying him when he's out partying so you should have zero say on how he conducts himself. If at some point he DOES do something stupid wearing your company logo, deal with it then. Although I don't see Nike getting upset when THEIR logo is worn by a some drunk college kid.

  2. Misunderstanding Facebook by TechnicolourSquirrel · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think one of the big issues with the development of the social networking sites is that it's not always the person's decision to be featured on facebook - I don't have an account on facebook/myspace/etc, and yet I know there are numerous photos of me, labelled as such, on those sites, because I associate with people who do use them. It's not a big deal at the moment (the photos are only linked in the most tenous of ways, and none of them are particularly dodgy), but there is a potential there - even if someone isn't actually actively participating in such sites, there is likely to be information on them there. You're not on Facebook -- this is why you don't understand how it works, but you have recourse here. You can join Facebook, maintain a very small friends list, and set your profile to be unreadable by anybody else. Then you can change your privacy settings so that photos tagged of you are only visible to those on your friends list. This affects even photos tagged of you taken by other people. That way even if one of your friends decides to make their profile public, any photos they tag of you submit to YOUR privacy settings, not theirs. And since they can always see their own photos, they probably will not even notice that you have restricted their material to YOUR friends list. You don't even have to log in to maintain this privacy barrier -- any future photos that are tagged with your name submit to the same privacy settings. You can even go in and tag the photos with your own name yourself so that they WILL submit to your privacy settings. Facebook is not like Myspace -- it's very much better thought through, and much more private by default. In fact I find them to be completely opposite in their core approaches. People who say Facebook/Myspace in one breath generally don't get it.
    1. Re:Misunderstanding Facebook by TechnicolourSquirrel · · Score: 2, Informative
      Actually, in response to your question I tested out my theory (I have a dummy account just for such purposes --shhhh) and it turns out that I didn't really understand Facebook, either. It goes pretty far, just not as far as I just claimed. If you mark 'Photos tagged of you' as private, then people looking at *your* profile will not get a link to see photos uploaded and tagged with your name by your friends. And of course -- if your whole profile is friends-only, even when people see your tags in your friends' photos, they will not be able to click your name and see your profile unless they are also on your friends list. You can also remove any tags to yourself on Facebook, and once removed, they cannot be restored, not even by the person who owns the picture. (This happens to my photos all the time -- women especially tend to be very picky about which photos of them get tags and which not.)

      But that is all just about links: whoever can actually see your photos themselves is in fact entirely determined by the privacy settings of whoever uploads them, not by who is tagged in them. Basically, there was a rather prominent privacy option that I misinterpreted to restrict the photos themselves when actually it only restricts any linkage between your Facebook profile/identity and those photos. Sorry -- my bad. I'm glad you pressed me on it -- as this is good to know.

  3. Re:Private Lives Private by R2.0 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think the discussion would be enlightened by distinguishing between "privacy" and "anonymity".

    A "private" act or utterance is, in and of itself, hidden. The universe of people who know about it, and the identity associated with it, is limited and controlled.

    An "anonymous" act or utterance is PUBLIC, but the identity associated with it is hidden. So, when "True Colors", by Anonymous, was published, the Whole World knew that there was a person who had access to all this private info about the Clintons, but the identity of the person was limited.

    The way I see it, social networking sites are destroying anonymity, not privacy. As of a few years ago, if I did something stupid in public, though any number of people may have seen me do it, I could be relatively assured that my identity would not be connected with the act. If I don't wear my name on my shirt, I'm probably not going to be recognized (all the more reason dumb college pranks are done naked - not by me, of course).

    But that's blown out of the water now. With ubiquitous imaging and communication technology, the odds of remaining anonymous in an act or utterance is getting vanishingly small. Where before there might be one polaroid of, say, a fraternity pledge class playing football naked at midnight (again, not involving me, of course), now that picture would most assuredly have bee taken digitally. And published. And, where there is a practical limit to the number of times a polaroid can be passed around, thereby limiting the chance for identity recognition, there is NO practical limit to transmission and duplication of digital imagery. SOMEone is going to recognize someone else in a photo. Period.

    Anonymity is dead. The days of being able to do and say stupid stuff in public and not be associated with those acts is over. Keep it private, or don't do it at all, or face the consequences of public actions. It may be that the latter isn't the disaster it's being made out to be.

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