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RCMP Won't Go After Personal Filesharers

mlauzon writes "The RCMP announced that it will stop targeting people who download copyrighted material for personal use (Google translation). Their priority will be to focus on organized crime and copyright theft that affects the health and safety of consumers, such as copyright violations related to medicine and electrical appliances, instead of the cash flow of large corporations. Around the same time that the CRIA successfully took Demonoid offline, the RCMP made clear that Demonoid's users don't have to worry about getting prosecuted, at least not in Canada. 'Piracy for personal use is no longer targeted,' Noël St-Hilaire, head of copyright theft investigations of the RCMP, said in an interview. 'It is too easy to copy these days and we do not know how to stop it.'"

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  1. Unfortunately by RecoveredMarketroid · · Score: 3, Informative

    The RCMP don't speak for other police forces in Canada--in particular, the provincial police forces (e.g., the Ontario Provincial Police). While I suspect that they won't be aggressively pursuing individuals either, this is no guarantee. I believe the OPP has fairly extensive technology-related policing resources, but I can't substantiate that...

    1. Re:Unfortunately by starfishsystems · · Score: 2, Informative

      Provincial enforcement of federal statutes? Because that's what copyright is, in Canada.

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    2. Re:Unfortunately by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Informative

      The OPP only counts if you live in Ontario. There's a QPP for Quebec. None of the other provinces AFAIK have provincial police forces. They all depend on the RCMP. In some places, such as the far north, and other sparsely populated areas, the RCMP are the only police. Also, looking at this from a different angle, what I think they are saying is that the RCMP has bigger fish to fry. People that are much more dangerous. It's not worth the resources to hunt down personal file sharers, because they aren't hurting anybody. I imagine that the OPP would probably feel the same way. The local police might care about catching people doing petty crimes like this, but probably don't have the resources or technical expertise.

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  2. BUT SOCAN now is happy - Tariff 22 by future+assassin · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is a bit ot but hasn't been reported here and my submission was rejected http://www.socan.ca/jsp/en/news_events/news/Tariff22_07.jsp

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  3. Re:Ambivalent feelings by trolltalk.com · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Illegal file-sharing is not proper theft but it is without a doubt a fraud, as you are getting a service (entertainment) without paying for it."

    Wrong. Canadians DO pay for it, via a levy on recording materials (blank CDs, etc) that goes back to the recording industry, so its not even "fraud."

  4. Re:Now, next on the list. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Informative

    We tried to decriminalize pot but the USians objected and we decided selling them stuff was more important.

  5. Re:News Flash from our cute neighbors to the north by Torvaun · · Score: 2, Informative

    Canada's got way more land mass than the U.S. Only country with more land mass than Canada is Russia.

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  6. Re:News Flash from our cute neighbors to the north by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Not so, actually. The US has more land than Canada; Canada is the second-largest country in the world only when water that is part of the country is considered as well.

  7. You forgot about China? by Animaether · · Score: 4, Informative

    Certainly doesn't seem that way on a map - but most map projections are incredibly deceiving. CIA factbook figures:

    RUSSIA
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/rs.html
    total: 17,075,200 sq km
    land: 16,995,800 sq km
    water: 79,400 sq km

    CHINA
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ch.html
    total: 9,596,960 sq km
    land: 9,326,410 sq km
    water: 270,550 sq km

    USA
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
    total: 9,826,630 sq km
    land: 9,161,923 sq km
    water: 664,707 sq km
    note: includes only the 50 states and District of Columbia ( add some for the all the islands, if counting )

    CANADA
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ca.html
    total: 9,984,670 sq km
    land: 9,093,507 sq km
    water: 891,163 sq km

  8. C'mon up to Canada Y'all by Adeptus_Luminati · · Score: 4, Informative

    Reasons to move to Canada:

    1. You won't get prosecuted for piracy
    2. Our dollar is now worth more than the US dollar
    3. We don't have perfect leaders, but most if not all are more intelligent than Bush
    4. We still have some degree of privacy left (aka. our telcos dont spy on us)
    5. We have beautiful natural wonders
    6. We have much greater diversity of cultures, weather & landscapes.
    7. Our beer is much better (& stronger)
    8. You can throw a rock in urban cities and hit 3 starbuck locations.
    9. We rule at ice hockey
    10. You get to wear a tuque, pet a beaver, eat maple syrup, and say eh? instead of huh?

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  9. Re:News Flash from our cute neighbors to the north by debrain · · Score: 4, Informative

    Canada's got way more land mass than the U.S. Only country with more land mass than Canada is Russia. Canada
    Area
    Total: 9,984,670 km (2nd)
    Water (%): 8.92 (891,163 km) ... 9984670 - 891163 = 9 093 507
    Thus, Canada has 9,093,507 sq km of land mass.

    United States
    Area
      - Total 9,826,630 km [1](3rd2)
    3,793,079 sq mi
      - Water (%) 6.76 ... 9826630 - (9826630 * 0.0676 = ) = 9826630 - 664280 = 9 162 350
    Thus, the United States has 9,162,350 sq km of land mass.

    9 093 506 sq km (Canada's land mass) is less than 9,162,350 sq km (the US land mass), therefore your statement seems incorrect. Canada does have more total area, but more of that area is water.
  10. Re:News Flash from our cute neighbors to the north by shark72 · · Score: 2, Informative

    "According to a study by Industry Canada [michaelgeist.ca], file sharers actually buy more music than non-file sharers. All file sharing allows people to do is to find music that they like much easier. The more stuff they find that they like, the more money they will spend on music. If you've only ever heard of Britney Spears, because that's all the radio ever plays, then you can't buy that many CDs."

    This study was torn to bits when it was first covered on Slashdot a few weeks ago. The non-file-sharing group includes people who have no significant interest in music; they don't buy music anyway. But 100% of the music file sharers are music fans and thus there's a possibility that they'll buy music. It's a bit tricky to explain here; this is one of those instances where Venn diagrams come in handy. It's all too easy to confuse correlation with causation here, but it's not the case.

    A more useful study would compare two groups of music fans; one made up of people who acquire their music via P2P; the other made up of people who do not. I doubt that the end result would be the same.

    Either way, there's a false dichotomy here: if you're a P2P fan you have lots of ways to find new music; if you don't pirate music as a "try before you buy" mechanism, then you do not. Yet I (and plenty of people like me) have absolutely no trouble finding new music and exploring new artists and genres, without resorting to piracy. iTunes is set up quite well to encourage this sort of exploration; there's also Pandora, last.fm, and countless alternative streaming radio stations. While I've no doubt that there are P2P fans who've used P2P to find new music, anybody who attempts to imply that piracy is the only way to find new music is simply trying to justify their behavior, at the expense of honesty.

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  11. Re:totalitarianism? by SpeedyDX · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can drive 140 on the 401?!?!!? I can barely go up to 40 most days!! :)