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PS3 Gets DivX Support, Coming Soon to Xbox 360

Mpegged writes "The popular DivX video codec will soon be supported on the PlayStation 3 via a future firmware update. DivX CEO Kevin Hell also hinted that support is coming to the 360 as well. 'During the SMid Cap conference call with investment firm JP Morgan, Hell was asked if the recent deal that will see DivX codecs shipped with new versions of Microsoft's standalone Media Center Extenders means that such support will also be arriving on the Xbox 360. "Yes!" was his immediate reply, although he quickly qualified that confirmation with a disclaimer that the deal was still in the negotiation process and had not yet been finalized.'"

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  1. DivX... do people still use that? by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 2, Informative

    Everyone I know uses an XviD or h.264 codec these days. I haven't seen a new DivX video for a couple years.

    1. Re:DivX... do people still use that? by Wordsmith · · Score: 5, Informative

      Divx support means the ability to decode those Xvid files (at least in theory). Mpeg-4 Part II, of which both codecs are implementations, is set up so that implementations can vary in their encodes (like, say, two different MP3 encoders would do), decoding should work identically.

    2. Re:DivX... do people still use that? by Fluffy+Bunnies · · Score: 3, Informative

      No. The two encoders have some mutually incompatible features. Some xvid encodes will work with the divx decoder, while the ones that actually use xvid's good features (like multiple b-frames) simply won't. (unless divx has changed radically in the last year or so)

    3. Re:DivX... do people still use that? by Shrubbman · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's simply an issue with Divx's decoder not fully supporting the spec, similar to how certain h.264 encoded videos with some of the more advanced features enabled can't be played back on the ipod. The only reason not to support the full spec in software would be hardware limitations, which shouldn't be an issue for either the PS3 or 360.

    4. Re:DivX... do people still use that? by Fluffy+Bunnies · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's not the only reason. According to TFA, this is being done by the divx team: what incentive do they have for providing support for features their codec does not use? Features that, as a matter of fact, puts show product in a bad light. I guess we'll see when the thing is released, but I'm not holding my breath. Well, I don't even own a PS3 so why should I...

  2. Xvid support by ProfBooty · · Score: 2, Informative

    The article indicates support for XviD, or at the very least being able to detect XviD files in the PS3 2.0 firmware.

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  3. Huh? by Silverlancer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Both the PS3 and Xbox 360 already support H.264; why in the world would anyone use DivX when a better option is available?

    1. Re:Huh? by king-manic · · Score: 3, Funny

      Both the PS3 and Xbox 360 already support H.264; why in the world would anyone use DivX when a better option is available? \

      Because they're too lazy to convert 500 gigs of porn.
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    2. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      h264 comes in many flavors. The PS3 cannot (won't) play anything above level 4.1, although there are rumors of 4.2. Either way, it's not good enough seeing just about every "x264" recording is set to 5.1, which should really be used for ultra-mega-wega HD.

      The other issue is the container. The PS3 will not play mkv, and mp4 doesn't like ac3 5.1 sound. Currently you can split the streams apart, try to fudge the video level down to 4.1 and remux to vob format, with an extension the PS3 will accept, say .mpg. However, it's very hit-n-miss.

      What we really need is VLC to be on the PS3, and cut out all the crap. xbox360 owners seem to have their own limited support issues, but they're having great success with HD WMV, which sony won't touch.

    3. Re:Huh? by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 2

      The MPEG-2 Transport Stream can contain H.264 video with AAC, AC3, or DTS audio. It is actually the format used by Blu-ray Discs. The BD file and folder structure can by placed on a DVD which is referred to an AVCHD. The PS3 needs the filesystem to be UDF 2.50 or higher though.

  4. All I can say is... by CaseM · · Score: 2, Insightful

    it's about f*****' time!

    I hate transcoding with a passion - the best media centers out there (TVersity, Orb) still seem somewhat buggy and just stop working sometimes. They're great, but if I have to remote admin to my media server to stop and restart the service to watch a TV show, then I'm less inclined to want to bother with it. At their best, transcoders (for obvious reasons) lower the quality of the video to get it over to your console/system of choice.

  5. Why the moaning? by coldgunner · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can't understand the complaints as to why we didn't get xvid etc, I mean, they didn't have to add divx and its better than having none at all

  6. Re:And here I am.. by MBGMorden · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unless you were being sarcastic, I think it was pretty obvious that the GP isn't having fun with the Wii. Just because some others tell you that this new magic console is *fun* doesn't make it so. Fun is subjective.

    I don't own a Wii, but my brother does. It was indeed fun, for an hour or so. I have no real further inclination to mess with one again though, and after the novelty factor wore off he doesn't play it anymore either (he's back to playing his PS2 again).

    Different strokes for different folks. I know some love the Wii-mote concept, but for me it's a gimmick that gets old VERY quickly. I'll make the same comparison as I have to DDR. DDR is an awesome game. I have gone through 4 mats and still play a lot. It's a good concept with a unique input method. Making the leap from "DDR is fun!" though to "hey, we should make all our games revolve around a dance mat!" is not a wise move. The Wii-mote is the same way. Nice toy for a game or two, but overall, a standard controler is far better suited to most games.

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  7. Re:Definitely The Pr0n... by king-manic · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's funny, but you make a good point. Pornography has definitely played a part in the history of media format wars and is credited in part for the win of VHS over Beta. Sony wouldn't allow porn on betamax. More recently, Sony initially refused to allow porn on the Blu-ray format, but I think they have quietly relented on that. So it is not too far fetched to say that DivX support may have something to do with porn. At the very least, the legacy DivX libraries other posters have mentioned may play some role in the decision of support. But, of course, a lot of those libraries probably contain a fair amount of, *ahem*, adult material. It certainly won't hurt PS3 sales!

    In the end though, my guess is that adding DivX support is not a huge technological problem, and given the fierce battle Sony and Microsoft are engaged in, each wants as many bullet points as possible. In the end, competition is good for the consumer! Actually both your stories are myths. Beta did in fact have porn on it in every time span VHS did. The myth that it didn't may have been common and motivated people to buy VHS but Beta did indeed have porn. The myth itself is what likely had influence.

    HD DVD vs Blu-ray is even less influence due to the wide scale spread of porn on the internet but also because it's untrue. The CEO of Digital Playgrounds (a Porn studio) complained Sony wasn't giving him enough support and claimed Sony didn't want porn on blu-ray at a Porn conference. Immediately afterwards Vivid announced a line up of hd porn for blu-ray. It seems it was just grapes from one studio that wanted more support. It doesn't seem Sony had any ban or policy against porn on blu-ray ever.
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  8. Re:xbmc by DJProtoss · · Score: 2, Insightful

    True, although the linux port is probably a ways off yet [ especially what I really would like, which would be a linux port running on the PS3. Yes, I'm somewhat sick like that ] Big problem with XMBC is ( as alluded to above ) it can't cope with HD, and (worse) it can only cope with h264 to a somewhat limited extent.

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  9. Re:Question by someguy456 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I love my Philips DVP 5960.

    The killer feature for me was the front-side USB port, which lets me play movies right off of a flash drive.
    Throw in easy region-free hacks + HDMI/1080i support and I've got myself a winner for around $75

  10. The codecs I miss by nonos · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They removed the PS2 BC codec and added divx ? Is the PS3 a game console ?

  11. Re:DivX Players? by DrXym · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I have a DivX Player... It's called a computer...

    Good for you. Next you're going to say that your computer is hooked up to your TV and everyone else should do the same?

    Fact is the PS3 and the 360 are plugged into a TV by definition and have more than enough power to play music and video. In that capacity it makes perfect sense to utilise them as multimedia jukeboxes.

  12. Re:PS3 Media Center by DrXym · · Score: 2, Informative
    DivX certainly represents the last significant piece in the puzzle. The PS3 already supports MPEG-2, MP4 pt 2 SP, AVC, jpeg, png, MP3, WMA, AAC, ATRAC and has streaming support via UPnP and DNLA. Next year it's getting PVR functionality in some regions and possibly downloadable content from PSN.

    I think it's shaping up to be the ultimate multimedia center. The 360 is also making efforts to improve it's multimedia support, but you'd probably have to get the 120Gb to make any decent use of it.

  13. Re:xbmc by AbRASiON · · Score: 2, Informative

    I can't believe there's not more posts about this, XBMC is probably the best media server option for low definition there is.
    Simple and easy to use, looks good, works well, is now reliable and packed full of features.