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Wikileaks Releases Sensitive Guantanamo Manual
James Hardine writes "Wired is reporting that a never-before-seen military manual detailing the day-to-day operations of the U.S. military's Guantánamo Bay detention facility has been leaked to the web, via the whistle-blowing site Wikileaks.org, affording a rare inside glimpse into the institution where the United States has imprisoned hundreds of suspected terrorists since 2002. The 238-page document, "Camp Delta Standard Operating Procedures," is dated March 28, 2003. The disclosure highlights the internet's usefulness to whistle-blowers in anonymously propagating documents the government and others would rather conceal. The Pentagon has been resisting — since October 2003 — a Freedom of Information Act request from the American Civil Liberties Union seeking the very same document. Anonymous open-government activists created Wikileaks in January, hoping to turn it into a clearinghouse for such disclosures. The site uses a Wikipedia-like system to enlist the public in authenticating and analyzing the documents it publishes. The Camp Delta document includes schematics of the camp, detailed checklists of what "comfort items" such as extra toilet paper can be given to detainees as rewards, six pages of instructions on how to process new detainees, instructions on how to psychologically manipulate prisoners, and rules for dealing with hunger strikes."
Why are so many countries electing pro american governments then?
If it is classified information, they (the leaker) should be prosecuted.
-- bearclaw
That article on CS gas is so lame... If you join the army you WILL be subject to CS gas in your training... All it is is a form of tear gas.
"Oh, let't not use any from of anything that might make the baddies go away. Let's just give them hugs. That will make them happy and want to stop killing innocent people and not enflict their horrible religion on us."
I hate crap like this. Fricken liberals...
It is a lot of pages but so far this text seems to be pretty standard procedure for dealing with what the US claims are highly dangerous people. If the guidelines in this document are followed it is hard to see evidence of torture. Then again I thought abu ghraib was pathetic. If muslims talk just because a dog is barking at them, well, it is just pathetic. Read up on some real torture sessions, done against women and childeren and then come back. Being put into humiliating postions? Flushing a book? Oh yeah, that compares to electro shock, being beaten to death and seeing your fellows executed.
Is the US right in doing this? Hard to say, they face an enemy that on the one hand seems almost eager to die for the cause but can't be counted on to make a stand so they can be wiped out. How do you deal with an enemy that behaves like a civilian right upto the point they detonate a bomb, then blend back in again.
Germany had over 97% casualty from mistreatment of its russian prisoners, that is clear, you can't argue that this was barbaric. But where do you draw the line? I seen stories about criminals in the west who are let go because putting them in jail would place to heavy a burden on them. Eh yeah, we should only jail people who can handle it. Why not give speeding tickets only to those who can afford them?
The world, it is not just the US that is faced with radicals, is in a war that cannot be won by conventional means. So what do you do with your prisoners, there is no real war, so they ain't real prisoners, and the enemy cannot be defeated so you cannot return them afterwards.
If you look at the aftermath of the various EU terrorists attacks, then the response has been basically,"oh you naughty kids, don't do this again or I will have to scold you a second time". That doesn't exactly seem to work.
The US method? Well, that doesn't exactly seem to work either.
Perhaps the world is just at a loss, what do you do against fringe groups who are on the one hand fanatical enough to do anything, but smart enough to not wipe themselves out? It ain't just muslims, Japan had that nerve gas attack, America had Oklohoma, Holland had themurder of Pim Fortuyn. How do you deal with those who want to overthrow society but at once are such a part of that society you can't seperate them.
I think this whole jail is just a big mistake, they thought they could use it for intel, and all they ended up with was a public relation disaster because the public doesn't want to hear about how the world works. If you think the stuff here is really disturbing read up on innocent mental patients strapped to their beds for days because you don't want to pay for medical care. No red cross who inspects mental wards.
The US would have much better off had it shot these people instead of capturing them. Offcourse, that has other issues, tell the enemy surrender is not an option, and you just make him more fanatical (russian soldiers scared the germans, because the russians just didn't quit)
Lots of people will disagree with me, but frankly if you want to cry about abuse of power there are far worse places in the world. This seems to be just a rather harsh prisoner of war camp. Compared to the real horrors that go on around the world, I can't loose any sleep over it, especially if you realize that the people improsened here support goverments and organisations that have absolutely no rules about the treathment of prisoners.
Watch the movie The life and death of Colonel Blimp, a story about a man who has to realize that in a dirty war, you got to fight dirty.
Oh and please don't think me a Bush supporter, I am not, but the world has this war now, and we need to deal with it. Whining about how things should be different don't help. We need to clean up this fucking mess and pulling out ain't the fucking answer. If bush can't take responsiblity someone else will have too.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Sorry, I disagree about her. You can disagree with your Government's policy without going out of your way to aid the enemy. In fact, let's consider the definition of treason from the US Constitution: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort
Posing for propaganda pictures at a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft site? How can anybody defend that? I disagree with the Iraq war and have encouraged my Congressman to force the issue by cutting funding. Should my next move be to travel to the Middle East and videotape some propaganda for the enemy?
the Wiretap leakerThe wiretap leaker is a hero. William Mark Felt (aka: Deep Throat) is a hero. Jane Fonda was a fucking treasonous cunt that deserved to be sent to Federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison for what she did. You insult the real patriots and heroes by lumping her in with them.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
Maybe you should watch a movie?
Why? How can the content of that movie possibly justify the idea of rape as punishment?
We have known for years that the US policy was to treat these guys nauseatingly well. Slashdot isn't known for having informed, objective people, but I am shocked at the gross ignorance on this board of things that have been public for a long time. For example, we have known since 2004, at the latest, that waterboarding required explicit permission all the way up the chain of command. We learned recently that it hasn't been used in 3 years, and that only 3 people were ever waterboarded. We have known for years, also, that soldiers were expected to treat prisoners with kid gloves--literally, in some cases--even as they had urine and semen thrown at them, and detainees trying to gouge their eyes out or choke them.
Sometimes the groupthink on slashdot is pathetic.
I'm not one to let the Government get away with doing stupid things, but releasing a site for the global release of sensitive information is equally as stupid.
Sometimes, people don't know what the government is doing, and it is best kept that way.
This site, although well-intentioned, is practicing the very stupidity and wrongdoing that it is claiming to be against and help prevent.
Now, people have a way of leaking and releasing VERY SENSITIVE information on a global scale ANONYMOUSLY. So, if some 'mole' starts leaking information about national security issues on this site, the government can only sit back and wait to see what his/her next post will be about.
It's amazing how these morons are perfectly content with granting anonymity to people who release information that puts *EVERYBODY* at harm.
This site does nothing more that tell us stuff that any Joe can find out, except they are willing to grant anonymity to people who are actually leaking information that can put countries at greater risk by allowing their sensitive information to be posted globally without risk or consequense to the mole.
I hope someone manipulates this site just to show how badly it can be abused.
Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....