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The Nuclear Power Renaissance

Actual Reality writes "It is ironic to me that much of the same sentiment that thwarted the nuclear power industry back in the 80's is partially responsible for reviving it. Nuclear power is very clean compared to any power source that burns fuel. The US has missed several advancements in nuclear technology. We can only hope that environmental concerns will not again stifle our progress."

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  1. Nah, fuck off by vandan · · Score: 0, Troll

    We don't need nuclear. Nuclear is the dirtiest of all known fuel sources, NOT the cleanest. The waste remains deadly for hundreds of thousands of years.

    The simple truth is that we don't need nuclear, much the same as we don't need fossil fuels. Using totally clean, renewable resources is well within our technological reach.

    The problem is with renewable technology is that it takes the market away from the current big players. The oil, coil, and nuclear industry are all based on the same basic process:

    - bribe the government so they let you mine the resources you want
    - claim the resource as your own, as if you have some sort of actual legitimate right to it
    - convert the resource into power
    - dump the waste without any thought as to the consequences

    A switch to renewable energy undermines this model completely, as the resource is coming at us from the sun, and it's quite distributed in nature. That means that it favors distributed capture and conversion into usable energy. For the big energy companies, this is simply not on.

    What's more, renewable energies scale up and down extremely well. This means that instead of requiring massive capital investment to get a huge power plant working, a local community can install solar, wind, etc generators, and bring them online as required. For the big energy companies, this is REALLY not on. And they'll fight with everything they've got to make sure it doesn't happen.

    Right now, the battle is in convincing people that renewables are a viable solution. The energy industry would have us believe that this solution doesn't exist, and that we have to keep burning fossil fuels, and then switch to nuclear. BULLSHIT! We need to invest seriously in renewables, and leave the toxic fossil fuel and nuclear energy and weapons industry in the past.

    This brings me to the final point: that nuclear energy == nuclear weapons. In most nuclear countries, the US included, there is NO separation between the so-called civilian and military nuclear fuel cycle. While we have nuclear energy, we'll have nuclear weapons. While we have both these abominations, we'll have nuclear waste, accidents, horrific damage to the environment, and possibly a world-wide nuclear catastrophe. It doesn't take much to cover the world in radioactive dust. And what do we do then?

    1. Re:Nah, fuck off by vandan · · Score: 1, Troll

      The word from returned soldiers is that the government is ordering doctors to diagnose all war veterans with 'pre-existing mental disorders' when they try to claim post traumatic stress disorder.

      Do you really think that in this climate there will be any conclusive evidence presented by the establishment? When, exactly, did the US take responsibility for Agent Orange, or the millions of land mines they deposited in Vietnam & Cambodia? I'll tell you when: FUCKING NEVER!

      The same goes for DU.

    2. Re:Nah, fuck off by vandan · · Score: 0, Troll

      There's no such thing as Gulf War Syndrome

      Hmf. A Gulf War Syndrome denier. OK then.
  2. Clean nuclear waste by iamstan · · Score: 0, Troll

    "Nuclear power is very clean..."

    Only if you ignore the waste products. If you think spent nuclear fuel is clean, why not make useful consumer goods out of it?

  3. Re:Ban on re-processing by Dun+Malg · · Score: 0, Troll

    You no doubt know that the fallout from Chernobyl circled the globe? That it contaminated neighboring countries fairly heavily Go read something (hell, even the wikipedia entry) on Chernobyl and come back after you understand the difference between a reactor run and built by a semi-responsible western nation and an RBMK reactor built by a bunch of soviet fuckwits more concerned with making lots of weapons grade plutonium, and run by dumbfuck soviet trained "engineers" who disable all the safety systems to see what happens. (hint: the former doesn't spew fallout which circles the globe, even when it melts down)
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  4. Re:The thing is by c6gunner · · Score: 0, Troll

    Of course, any human being that doesn't recognize this late in the game that the agenda of the US government is in large part driven by the interests of oil companies probably isn't going to be able to digest any of this, but what the hell. Here, have some pearls.
    You mis-spelled "jews".

    I mean "Zionists"...yeah....
  5. Re:Nuclear Power for Everyone by jamstar7 · · Score: 0, Troll

    IMHO, If we need to, as a civilization, we can survive on solar power using existing technologies if we reduce our consumption to more modest levels.

    Ah, no. Solar power produces less than 1% of all electricity used in the US. Since about half the electricity used in the US is used in business for various purposes, up & including manufacturing, you're asking everybody to take an economic hit that would make living in a mud hut in the Congo look like living in Beverly Hills. You're asking for at least a 99% reduction in electrical useage. Ain't gonna happen, dood.

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  6. Re:You Win; New Challenge by jamstar7 · · Score: 1, Troll

    New challenge: show me a prototype that could convert solar power from orbit to the surface of the Earth in a controlled fashion and has a snowball's chance in hell of producing a statistically significant portion of the US electricity usage (5 trillion kilowatt-hours/year).

    First step would be to build an Earth based reciever that won't get picketted by envirowhackos intent on protecting the ecology of the desert. Reason for that would be, the most efficient reciever of microwaves would be a rectenna. You know they'll build the reciever in the desert because the land there is almost worthless.

    ALMOST worthless isn't totally worthless though.

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