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Sun to Create Underground Japanese Datacenter

Kurtz'sKompund writes with word of a Sun project in Japan, one that's taking a somewhat non-standard approach to data center construction. To save on power, heating, and water costs, the consortium is going to be building their center in an abandoned coal mine. The outpost will be created by lowering Blackbox systems into the ground; estimates on savings run to $9 million annually in electricity alone.

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  1. Title should read: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sun to Create Japanese Datacenter where the Sun don't shine.

  2. Are they crush proof? by rueger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Blackbox containers are robust enough to withstand earthquakes, being capable of withstanding a quake of magnitude 6.7 on the Richter scale.

    I don't know, but placing servers 100m underground in a place that routinely is hit by large earthquakes seems a dubious idea. The containers themselves may survive a quake, but what happens when the disused coal mine collapses onto and around them? Even if the containers and servers survive, will the power and data cables? If the tunnels collapse how will you get to and from the servers for maintenance?

    1. Re:Are they crush proof? by darthflo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Two possible outcomes:
      1: Mine collapses, buries everything under millions of tons of rocks and stuff, Blackboxes and cabling survives, Sun market's "the world's most secure datacenter".
      2: Mine collapses, buries everything under millions of tons of rocks and stuff, Blackboxes and/or cabling gets scratched and/or really damaged, Sun hires Godzilla (this is Japan, where Godzilla's big in, remember?) to smash away them rocks and free the mine once again.

    2. Re:Are they crush proof? by couchslug · · Score: 4, Funny

      "If the tunnels collapse how will you get to and from the servers for maintenance?"

      Good reason to have onsite admins!

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    3. Re:Are they crush proof? by Brickwall · · Score: 4, Funny
      Really are great tools Integrated Lights Out Management is

      Thanks, Yoda.

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  3. Re:Thermal fun by RallyNick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The temperature in a cave means nothing, unless you take into account the cave's ability to dissipate heat somewhere (water or air moving through the cave). If you go inside a cave that's been at constant 55F for a thousand years and you suddenly heat it with 50 kilowatts of power from your data center the temperature will settle at 255F in a hurry. About the only advantage you get from a cave is a constant supply of really cold water (if sufficient rain that year). Ambient air temperature is irrelevant since usually you don't have a strong draft in a deep cave and static air will heat up pretty quickly.

  4. Somebody by woot+account · · Score: 4, Funny

    has been reading Cryptonomicon.

  5. No...the title should read: by Paul_Hindt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sun to create datacenter in the land of the rising Sun.

  6. You can do lots with an old mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    A couple of examples come to mind.

    The Government of Canada marijuana farm is located in an old copper mine in Manitoba. You can't beat the security, which is something mentioned in tfa. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2001/08/02/marijuana_010802.html

    A solar neutrino observatory is installed in an old mine in Sudbury, Ontario, Canads. It has the advantage of being impervious to almost all kinds of radiation, except of course for neutrinos. http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/

    As I look at the other posts, I see lots of naysayers. Well there are at least a couple of cases where old mines have been used successfully for other things.

  7. Re:Thermal fun by theskipper · · Score: 5, Funny

    Whoa. Coincidentally, that's the optimum incubation temperature for Mothra larvae.

    For the sake of humanity, let's hope that Sun is factoring this into their cooling calculations.