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Are Aliens Living Among Us?

pickens writes "In recent years scientists have begun to view the existence of life outside of our solar system as ever-more likely. If life does emerge readily under terrestrial conditions, then perhaps it formed many times on our home planet. To pursue this tantalizing possibility, scientists have begun searching deserts, lakes and caverns for evidence of earth-bound 'alien' life-forms, organisms that would differ fundamentally from all known living creatures because they arose independently. Microbes have already been found inhabiting extreme environments ranging from scalding volcanic vents to the dry valleys of Antarctica. Other so-called extremophiles can survive in salt-saturated lakes, highly acidic mine tailings contaminated with metals, and the waste pools of nuclear reactors. Although 'alien' microbes might look like ordinary bacteria, their biochemistry could involve exotic amino acids or different elemental building blocks so researchers are devising tests to identify exotic microbes. If shadow life is confined to the microbial realm, it is entirely possible that scientists have overlooked it."

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  1. What about us by ArcherB · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We ARE the Aliens!

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    1. Re:What about us by Remus+Shepherd · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, that was Eric Von Daniken's theory. Aliens came to earth, mated with dumb animals and gave birth to us, then they helped their children build pyramids or some such nonsense.

      I'm more interested in the possibility that some species of dinosaur became sentient, built a technological civilization, and then erased all traces of themselves from the planet (causing mass extinctions in the process) before moving out into space. It's no more likely than ape-humping pyramid-building aliens, but sentient space dinosaurs would be a lot cooler.

      We're not going to be able to say anything useful about our past until we find something with which to compare it. Finding life on just one other planet would give us enormous amounts of data to compare with Earth's biohistory. Wish more resources were being put into doing that.

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    2. Re:What about us by PietjeJantje · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't know about you, but I'm pretty normal.

      One of the extraordinary things about life is the sort of places it's prepared to put up with living. Anywhere it can get some kind of a grip, whether it's the in toxicating seas of Santraginus V, where the fish never seem to care whatever the heck kind of direction they swim in, the fire storms of Frastra where, they say, life begins at 40,000 degrees, or just burrowing around in the lower intestine of a rat for the sheer unadulterated hell of it, life will always find a way of hanging on in somewhere.

      It will even live in New York, though it's hard to know why. In the winter time the temperature falls well below the legal minimum, or rather it would do if anybody had the common sense to set a legal minimum. The last time anybody made a list of the top hundred character attributes of New Yorkers, common sense snuck in at number 79.

      In the summer it's too darn hot. It's one thing to be the sort of life form that thrives on heat and finds, as the Frastrans do, that the temperature range between 40,000 and 40,004 is very equable, but it's quite another to be the sort of animal that has to wrap itself up in lots of other animals at one point in your planet's orbit, and then find, half an orbit later, that your skin's bubbling.

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    3. Re:What about us by Elemenope · · Score: 4, Interesting

      For more fun, Google "Hitler AND Vegetarian". Seriously, associating an idea with some of its kookier followers says nothing significant about the truth or falsity of the idea itself. For heaven's sake, Pythagoras thought that BEANS were EVIL, and yet we don't bring that up every time we try to analyze a triangle, do we?

      Panspermia may be right. It may be wrong (I tend to think, gut instinct, it is wrong). However, the truth of the matter does not depend on how many kool-aid drinking idiots latch onto one side or the other.

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  2. while life itself can be reinvented by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Interesting

    it's also amazing how different forms of life can be reinvented

    whales reinvented what fish do. bats reinvented what birds do

    you can go down into deeper and deeper levels of reinvention of life processes too. for example, horseshoe crabs don't have iron-based red blood, they have copper-based blue blood. go deeper than that: there are bacteria that have completely reinvented photosynthesis from scratch according to an alternative methodology

    of course the basest differences this article talks about is exotic, alternative forms of energy in superhot environments, superacid environments, weird chemical/ metal concentrations, etc. by necessity then, these animals have very exotic and bizarre biochemistry, but tehy are still in our family tree, because of the way they store their genes

    so the deepest alternatives to life as we know it is to find some bugger somewhere who stores its genes in ways other than dna/ rna

    find that bugger on earth, win the nobel prize

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  3. text book example of the scientific method by ChrisA90278 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is almost a text book example of the scientific method isn't it? Some one has a theory "Life is very likely to arise on any Earth-like planet." You can test this and prove it right or wrong by observation. All you need are a large number of earth-like planets you lok at each one and see if there is life. OK darn we can't test this theory. So we have a usles untestable theory. Oe so we thought for for year it was untestable.

    What they are saying here, is that if life is likely then maybe here on Earth it started, was wiped out, started again, wiped out again and then we are the product of the 3rd or 100th try. Each of the others being wiped out by some natural disaster like a comet impact or whatever. So here finally is a way to test the theory that life is "likely" if we can show that it happen not once but many times on Earth then it was not a one in a trillion chance but a certainty.
    To prove this they only need to find one microbe that is not decedent from the same common ancestor is we are. The microbe does not even have to be living. A fossil would be as good if it could be shown not to share an common ancestor with us.

    The odd thing is that there could be 100's of these right in plain sight and we'd never know it and even if we did find it how can we be sure.