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Mark Cuban Calls on ISPs to Block P2P

boaz112358 writes "Mark Cuban, Dallas Mavericks owner, HDNet CEO, and noted gadfly is publishing on his blog that Comcast and other ISPs should block all P2P traffic, because as he says, "As a consumer, I want my internet experience to be as fast as possible. The last thing I want slowing my internet service down are P2P freeloaders." He complains that commercial content distributors instead of paying for their own bandwidth, are leeching off consumers who are paying for the bandwidth. As an alternative distribution method (at least for audio and video), he suggests Google video."

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  1. hold on a sec... by timmarhy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    .. so this assholes logic is his traffic is better then mine? I pay just the same as he does for the service and as long as i use it inside the terms of my agreement he has no right to say anything.

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    1. Re:hold on a sec... by CoolVibe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Amen. This asshole isn't paying for my bandwidth, so he should shut the hell up. Arrrr.

  2. P2P is only int its infancy by Basje · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The same argument can be applied to voip and more recently internet television. But it's a logic stance for an established player with enough capital: they have the means to provide enough bandwidth to things in a traditional client-server way.

    P2P is only in its infancy. More and more applications are being found for it. Joost is one example, where p2p is used in a way to allow a relatively small player to operate. New uses even bring bandwidth use down, keeping it local.

    It would be stupid to kill these opportunities for the benefit of a few big players.

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  3. Paying Customer? by jythie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok... so now paying customers who buy a service as it is advertised are freeloaders?

    This is getting silly..... ISPs should NOT be advertising services they can not actually provide and then blaming groups of their own customers for their lack of infrastructure.

  4. obligatory by sam.thorogood · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a consumer, I want my P2P experience to be as fast as possible. The last thing I want slowing my internet service down are regular downloading freeloaders, only getting content from one source, and clogging up the tubes, rather than downloading different parts of my final file from a whole bunch of different (and potentially local) sources. Seriously.

  5. Google video requires no bandwidth by beef3k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Moving to Google Video... yeah I guess that'd help a lot. Let's centralize everything and see how well that works out for everyone.
    Or wait... why was it that this P2P concept was invented again? "Distribute load" or something... difficult concept.

    Try again Mark.

  6. Re:Freeloaders? by Nicholas+Evans · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Then, is it the customer's fault that his ISP is grossly overselling their capacity?

  7. Re:Freeloaders? by aussie_a · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps the ISP shouldn't oversell their bandwidth? It would result in higher prices, but it would be more honest.

  8. Re:Freeloaders? by Kadin2048 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They should get their gig of porn, too. In fact, gigs of porn all around.

    Or at least to whomever's ISPs promised them service. That's the real problem here, the overselling of backhaul capacity and quoting of mindless 'burst' speeds rather than average or continuous transfer. What everyone is doing with their connection is irrelevant. If I'm downloading porn or watching YouTube, the effect on my neighbors is going to be basically the same (witness most recent 'imminent death of the net' story, which IIRC blamed video).

    We need a little more truth in advertising in internet access. Let's make them advertise two separate figures, one for speed and one for transfer, for starters. And if they're going to do QoS or prioritize traffic, that needs to be disclosed, too -- not just that they're going to do it, but on what basis they're going to do the QoS and a breakdown of what traffic is going to get what priority over what else.

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  9. Interesting comment... by SerpentMage · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hmmm, do you really want this? Think hard about this... It's a slippery slope...

    What you are referring to is breaking of network neutrality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality).
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    So if universities do priorization, why not corporations, why not ISP's?

    A slippery slope....

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  10. Re:One way to solve this by Simple-Simmian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I use bandwidth for P2P and a lot of it. I also pay for the top tier plan that my ISP offers. If it's not enough to pay for the bandwidth I use they need to charge me more. This clown is out of his depth.

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  11. Re:One way to solve this by untaken_name · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Either that or get their own Internet access and get off the school's network.

    They should not use the access they're paying for, but instead should go pay another internet provider also? That sounds fair. And by fair, I mean utterly stupid. It's not like you get to choose not to pay your inet fee - most schools either require it or bury it in other fees anyway, so even if you DO pay for your own inet access, you're just double or triple-paying. How about when you pay for internet access, you get to... I know this is crazy... access the internet? If it's too slow for Mark Cuban, he's welcome to run his own, faster network and put whatever policies he wants in to place to govern it. He has enough money. But he, you, and everyone else can stay the fuck out of my internet usage, thank you.