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Stay Lifted, Novell Vs. SCO Can Go Forward

A number of readers suggest we check out Groklaw, where PJ is reporting that a bankruptcy judge has granted Novell's request to lift the stay so that its trial against SCO can proceed in Utah. The judge concluded that Judge Kimball is the best one to decide how much SCO owes Novell, and that SCO cannot make any "reorganization" plans — including any "fire sale" of assets — until it knows this figure.

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  1. The system is b0rked! by trolltalk.com · · Score: 5, Informative

    "The system works..... it works slowly, it costs huge amounts of money, but it does work......"

    Three simple reasons to say "the system" does NOT work:

    1. justice delayed is justice denied - and it was obvious a LONG time ago that this was a frivolous case
    2. justice might be blind, but its even MORE blind if you don't have $$$$
    3. justice's slow wheels allowed Darl and Co to pocket a LOT of money over the last 5 years, enabling their dump-and-pump scheme.

    Justice my arse! If the software industry worked as slowly as justice, and as expensively, we'd be using a $5,000 abacus instead of a computer.

    Think of it - there's still all the BS appeals. Justice isn't looking all that appealing now, is it, unless you, like justice, are blind AND slow.

  2. Here's a link by DrJimbo · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm interested to read just what [horrible things] Darl McBride said. I just Google searched for it and didn't find anything.
    Here is a link to Computer World Malaysia:

    Behind the scenes, though, McBride said SCO's legal team has unearthed some details about Kimball's rulings that may provide a glimmer of hope for his company's ongoing fight.

    "There's one little tidbit that we came across just a few days ago," he said. "Whereas the popular press has said, O.K., this thing is now over, there is an appeal process, and the other fact is that if you look inside that appeals process and you take a microscope and look at the record of Kimball's summary judgement rulings that have gone to appeals, he gets overturned the vast majority of the time. It's nearly two-thirds of the time. That was something I was a little curious about myself.

    "This apparently is a [judge] who very regularly, the majority of the time, gets [overturned] when it goes to the replay booth. That's the one sort of a news fact that's not out there today that [could] maybe temper some of this enthusiasm out there" about SCO's troubles. "He certainly has a dismal record on appeals."
    Like most other things coming out of Darl McBride's mouth, these words would have been less "horrible" had they been true. I swear, if that man says it is a clear day you'd best bring your umbrella. He seems incapable of telling the truth.

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  3. Re:Well good. by Arguendo · · Score: 4, Informative

    You don't need any evidence to file a lawsuit. There's a lot of reasons for that, but one of the most important ones is that often it's the defendant who has got the evidence. That's particularly true in employment discrimination cases for example. If the courts required evidence just to file, a lot of people wouldn't get their day in court and the justice system wouldn't function as intended.

    I'm not going to defend SCO by any measure, but they would probably say that they didn't have any evidence because Novell was hiding it all. And that they need discovery to get the incriminating emails, meeting agendas, testimony from employees, etc. So there's a lot of discovery for you.

    The whole process sounds very odd and wasteful from the outside, but there is a legit reason for the way things work. A cheaper alternative is arbitration, which we all agree to whenever we click "I accept." So maybe that will change soon, but I don't necessarily think that will be to consumers' benefit.