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Ron Paul Spam Traced to Reactor Botnet

Brother, Can You Spare a Dime? writes "Ars is reporting that the Ron Paul spam has been traced back to the Reactor botnet. According to the SecureWorks report, which originally identified the spammer, someone calling themselves nenastnyj was behind it and their botnet control server has been shut down. The Ron Paul campaign has previously denied any connection with this spam campaign."

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  1. Real world people by NEOtaku17 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I know many people think that Ron Paul doesn't have many real supporters and that it is mostly internet bots, but when Barack Obama visited Arizona State University to give a speech there were literally almost as many people with Ron Paul signs and t-shirts than Barack Obama even though Ron Paul wasn't even visiting that day. Make no mistake these supporters definitely are real. Unless of course all those people on campus are actually bots...

  2. Re:Unfortunately... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Informative

    To me, it does not make sense that an election should last 4 years and require the kind of funding only mega-corporations can provide.

    Why shouldn't it last 4 years - or longer - and cost a large fraction of the GNP. Civil wars do.

    Republics are designed to model civil wars accurately enough that they can be "fought" to their conclusion without all that nasty dying, burning of crops and towns, and so on.

    They do a good enough job of it (except for assasinations B-( ) that the US hasn't had to hold a full-scale civil war in well over a century (though there hace been a few small ones when the the elections were corrupted or a significant power group was disenfranchised and oppressed).

    See the "Battle of Athens" for one example.

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  3. Re:Sure Fire +5 Insightful (or -1 troll... not sur by vsync64 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Also and more importantly, I believe that the leaders of that party need to have a candidate who will allow the many crimes of the last 7 years to go unpunished, so they need a person they already own. (that's also why McCain and Huckabee don't have many 'big' endorsements or money, btw).
    McCain? If anything he is likely to let them go unpunished. He pretended that having to wear a flak jacket and be escorted by tanks and helicopters to grocery shopping is A-OK. Didn't he cave on torture ("allowing a 'just following orders' defense"), on habeas corpus, and on illegal detentions? Sad to see a good man fall.
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  4. russian origin by Newton+IV · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's interesting because Nenastnyj means something like "cloudy weather man" in Russian.

  5. Re:Great, more anti women supporters. by jcr · · Score: 5, Informative

    He's a liar and flip-flopper just like the rest of them.

    Actually, you're the liar. Ron Paul's votes on this issue are consistent with his stated position: he votes against federal funding for abortion (since he votes against federal funding for anything not authorized by the constitution), and he votes to allow the states to set their own policy on the matter.

    As for changing his position, the only issue I can name where Ron Paul has changed his stance is on the death penalty: he used to be in favor of it, but given the number of death row convicts who have been exonerated by DNA evidence, he no longer supports it. I don't have a problem with that.

    -jcr

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  6. Bush hijacked the 2000 platform by michaelmalak · · Score: 4, Informative
    In response to an editorial Why the Ron Paul Campaign is Dangerous that created a lot of controversy on the Ron Paul fora, I had a lengthy e-mail exchange with the author (once I figured out that I had to obfuscate the phrase "Ron Paul" to get past his Comcast spam filter). A "small" portion of that e-mail exchange was about what you alluded to -- what people think in response to the brand name "Republican". The brand name "Republican" is supposed to have something substantial behind it, namely the party platform. Indeed, we find that Bush is not only opposed to traditional Republicanism -- his operatives rewrote the platform behind closed doors (without input from the delegates) at the 2000 RNC!

    The e-mail excerpts are below:

    Ron Paul isn't hijacking the party because he is closer to the 1996 Republican Party platform (and previous years) than any other Republican candidate. It was Bush and friends who hijacked the Republican Party in 2000. Here are some excerpts from the 1996 platform that are either missing in the 2000 platform, watered down, contradicted by other portions of the platform, or just ignored by Bush and ultimately removed in the 2004 platform:

    We are the party of small, responsible and efficient government, joining our neighbors in cities and counties, rather than distant bureaucrats, to build a just society and caring communities. We therefore assert the power of the American people over government, rather than the other way around. Our agenda for change, profound and permanent change in the way government behaves, is based on the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution:

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

    [...]

    As a first step in reforming government, we support elimination of the Departments of Commerce, Housing and Urban Development, Education, and Energy, and the elimination, defunding or privatization of agencies which are obsolete, redundant, of limited value, or too regional in focus. Examples of agencies we seek to defund or to privatize are the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and the Legal Services Corporation.

    In addition, we support Republican-sponsored legislation that would require the original sponsor of proposed federal legislation to cite specific constitutional authority for the measure.

    [...]

    The unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to unborn children.

    This is the Republican Party that I grew up with and knew and loved. I stopped calling myself a Republican in 1999 because, among other reasons, Bush refused to commit to a litmus test for Supreme Court nominees.

    Ron Paul worked to nominate Reagan over Ford in 1976. Ron Paul is the torchbearer of what Reagan stood for (although Reagan did not live up to his words).

    After the Democratic Party became the Communist Party at the turn of the century and went on to dominate the first half of the century, the Republican Party responded by becoming the anti-Federalist Party after WWII. Ron Paul is trying to steer the Republican Party back toward those days of 1952-1996. That's getting back on track, not hijacking.

    The main difference between Ron Paul and Reagan is foreign policy -- the Reagan Administration, in its fight against communism, armed the most radical elements of Afghanistan and created the Taliban, which of course ended up harboring Osama bin Laden. Ron Paul wishes for the U.S. to not repeat that mistake.

    Ron Paul is the

  7. Ron Paul and the content of speech. by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 4, Informative
    I'll believe you, without any trouble at all. As best I recall, he had problems with the particular choice of executive departments ( FTC vs FCC ). He didn't so much vote against a do-not-call list, as he voted against an FTC-operated do-not-call list. He would have voted for the list if it were run by the FCC.

    The issue is that when run by the FTC, as the vote authorized, the government is judging speech by its content. The FTC - the Federal Trade Commission - would be judging whether or not the speech is commercial, ie: trade oriented. And judging speech by its content is a first amendment violation.

    The FCC, by contrast, would only be judging what type of communication it is. The FCC has a long history of banning certain types of communication: broadcasting on certain frequencies, or using too much power, etc. These don't violate the first amendment.

    A formal legal opinion was expressed by Judge Edward Nottingham ( after the vote ):

    "There is no doubt that unwanted calls seeking charitable contributions are as invasive to the privacy of someone sitting down to dinner at home as unwanted calls from commercial telemarketers...The FTC has imposed a content-based limitation on what the consumer may ban from his home, thereby entangling the government in deciding what speech the consumer should hear." In summary, Ron Paul made his decision based on first amendment issues. It is not clear that the issues of privacy or property rights even made it onto his screen.

    BTW, all of the above is from memory. I can't find anything on the net explaining why he voted against it.

    PS: sorry about the 'crack' comment.