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Are You Proud of Your Code?

An anonymous reader writes "I am downright embarrassed by the quality of my code. It is buggy, slow, fragile, and a nightmare to maintain. Do you feel the same way? If so, then what is holding you back from realizing your full potential? More importantly, what if anything are you planning to do about it? I enjoy programming and have from a young age (cut my teeth on BASIC on an Apple IIe). I have worked for companies large and small in a variety of languages and platforms. Sadly the one constant in my career is that I am assigned to projects that drift, seemingly aimlessly, from inception to a point where the client runs out of funding. Have any developers here successfully lobbied their company to stop or cut back on 'cowboy coding' and adopt best practices? Has anyone convinced their superiors that the customer isn't always right and saying no once in awhile is the best course of action?"

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  1. Do some open-source coding to feel clean again. by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Eric Raymond wrote, in "The Art of Unix Programming": "The combination of threads, remote-procedure-call interfaces, and heavyweight object-oriented design is especially dangerous... if you are ever invited onto a project that is supposed to feature all three, fleeing in terror might well be an appropriate reaction."

    The product I work on at work features all three. It can be 'interesting' to maintain sometimes. That being said, it's frequently possible to rewrite sections and management sometimes listens to the programmer types and has let us restructure things sometimes. For example, we've mostly gotten rid of the RPC stuff.

    When I want to satisfy my urge to work on good, clean code, I do some open-source work. Open-source tends to have that, because nothing else tends to work for very long.

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  2. Re:Something to note about other people's opinions by jacquesm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    style is one eternal point of contention (except for python programmers, but they're in a straight jacket), I don't think that it is a part of 'are you proud of your code', that has little to do with what other people think of your code, but everything about what you think of your own code.

    When I look at my own code it's a mixed bag. The stuff that I earned the most money with is actually programmed quite bad, some of the most elegant stuff I wrote is sitting unused on the shelf.

    I find that in a commercial setting I'm far more inclined to 'cut & paste' to keep moving rather than refactoring just to save the time. Sure, it leads to maintenance headaches down the line and I quite often just scrap stuff and rewrite it rather than figuring out what it did and why. Tools evolve at such a tremendous clip that I don't think the lifespan of code is anywhere near the point where it could be justified to spend say an extra week or two to get an algorithm tweaked to perfection if the next release of the tool or framework is going to have it built in anyway.

    Faster machines also lead to sloppy code, I'm running a lot of production stuff on uncompiled PHP, whereas in the past I've rolled out code in assembler because I could beat the C compiler by a couple of cycles on most tight loops.

    Times are changing, and that is the biggest 'driver' against 'clean' code, it won't be long before the actual code will start to disappear. For some environments that is already happening.

    Oh well, old guys like me will find employment writing for embedded systems, which are about a decade behind the curve.

  3. Re:Something to note about other people's opinions by noidentity · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here are some pet peeves of mine involving dealing with other people's code. I don't think many of these are subjective either.

    • Header files you can't #include without getting errors because you didn't #include something it requires (but stupidly doesn't #include itself).
    • Lots of global variables that are read and written by several modules.
    • Header files lacking comments about what functions do.
    • Use of non-standard names for types with a fixed number of bits, instead of those from stdint.h/inttypes.h. So they have u16 or int16 instead of int16_t. Or really stupid stuff like uint instead of unsigned int (or just unsigned, which is equivalent).
    • Lack of const-correctness. Something like void print_string( char* str ); Huh, does it modify the string? No, then why does it take a pointer to non-const?
    • Unnecessary non-portability. Don't use #include unless #include isn't sufficient.
    • Internal things put in header files. If it's only used in the module, keep it in the module's source file only! Same goes for not making internal functions static, opening the possibility of clashes.
    • Files indented with two spaces instead of a tab, or even just one space. Fortunately this can be worked around with tools.
    • Unnecessarily space-taking comments about a function's visible behavior. Things with lines of stars around everything, etc.
    • Lack of structure tags, preventing forward declaration. Don't do typedef struct { ... } foo_t; do struct foo_t { }; and a typedef if necessary.
    • Macros for integral constants (yes, even in C), since enum does the job and obeys scope (yes, C has different scopes, not just C++).
    • Fundamentally, things that aren't highly modular and can be understood and used in isolation. I want to combine modules and have a minimum of complexity increase due to this combination.
  4. Pride fades with time by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Generally, whenever I complete a set of code, it's perfect. It's flawless. It's the stunning pinnacle of coding, and it should go on some kind of display page where everyone can marvel at it, worship it and experience its perfection so they may find true enlightenment.

    Usually, when I unearth the code 6 months later I wonder if there's any way to get this horrible piece of hacked crap out of the CVS somehow...

    It's just that, well, you learn. You improve. Yes, even after more than a decade of coding, you still learn and improve. You learn new tricks, you learn to use new libraries, and you discover better and more efficient ways to use them by using them. So generally, yes, I'm proud of my code. For a while.

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  5. That's Not Good Code by severoon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The biggest thing I see wrong with other people's code is not at the syntax level or to do with commenting. It's based on a misunderstanding of basic CS principles. An example is in order from last week...

    In the codebase I work on, there's a module that analyzes documents and tags them, assigning different weights to each tag based on relevance. (Think of the way google works--it reads a web page and tags it with terms, then if you type in one of those terms while doing a search that document comes up--yes I know this isn't the way google actually works, save it. :-p ) At one point we send a list of tagged documents from one system to another, and this area was the source of many, many bugs. The responsible developer spent the better part of last week slaving on this code and every change seemed to introduce more bugs than it removed. Finally, I got involved to see what the problem was.

    Here is one thing (out of many) that I found. After the docs arrive in the new system, each doc is supposed to be persisted along with the top 5 most relevant tags (the rest discarded). The code was written to create a Document, check a hash table that maps the doc to the number of tags it currently has, add a tag if that doc doesn't yet have five, then increment the value associated with that doc in the hash table. When I saw this, my head almost exploded. At some point, this developer thought it would be a good idea to create a hash table and keep this information, information which is available in the document itself (he could've just called doc.getTags().size() to see how many tags it currently had). Now he created this hash table and all his code was written to depend on it, so of course he had to write a lot of code to keep it in sync with the state of all these documents.

    This sounds like a simple enough thing, right? It's not necessary, and it's not the best thing, but it's a fairly simple mistake and one that couldn't impact code readability all that much, right? Maybe--but consider that this is one of about 10 simple mistakes I found, and you can imagine the explosion of interactions of all these simple mistakes...and that's why we burned a person-week on something that should've been trivial. When I pointed out to this developer that he could just get the number of tags directly from the doc itself, and doesn't need to keep this state in some other object too, he said something to the effect of, "That's a different approach, but whatever...one's not better than the other."

    But one is better. If this developer understood the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic, he never would've written that code in the first place much less defended it. To put a fine point on it: the number of tags associated with a document is intrinsic to the document itself, so that is where the information should live...not there as well as some hash table somewhere. The document is the authority and the final word on how many tags it has at any moment in time. (There's a principle in databases called the SUA Principle--it means one should keep data in a Single place, in an Unambiguous manner, and that should be the Authoritative source of that data and no other. It applies here too.) Putting this info into some other object, even if that object exists solely for the purpose of tracking that info, means you're creating an object that stores information that is extrinsic to it. Never a good idea...now you need a whole bunch of supporting code that keeps the extrinsic info in sync at all times.

    Let's say I'm designing a Ball class for use in a physics application that students learning physics can use. They can shoot the ball out of a cannon, put it under water, in deep space, on Jupiter, etc, and see how the simulation behaves. As the developer of this class, I decide to add a characteristic to the ball that keeps info about its "heaviness". What should I add, a getWeight() method or a getMass() method? The developer I was talking t

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