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Boeing 12,000lb Chemical Laser Set to Fry Targets

coondoggie writes "Boeing this week completed work on and installed a 12,000-pound chemical laser in a C-130H aircraft. Boeing's Advanced Tactical Laser (ATL) which is being developed for the Department of Defense, will destroy, damage or disable targets with little to no collateral damage, supporting missions on the battlefield and in urban operations."

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  1. Hmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But, can you use it to make popcorn?

    1. Re:Hmm. by Yoozer · · Score: 5, Funny

      You mean, "will it fit on a frickin' shark?"

    2. Re:Hmm. by Ihlosi · · Score: 5, Funny
      Are they planning to use a 12000lb chemical laser for crowd control?



      "Crowd ? What crowd, sir ?"

  2. An easier option. by supersnail · · Score: 5, Funny

    If they relly want to destroy thing on hte ground why dont they enclose some high explosives in a steel container with a fuse set to go off when it hits an object. They could then drop this from the plane.

    just an idea.

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  3. I 3 Real genius by Hellbuny · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Laslo: I figure you've increased the power output to six megawatts?
    Chris: Yeah, about that.
    Laslo: Well what would you use that for?
    Ick: Making Swiss cheese?
    Mitch: The applications are unlimited.
    Laslo: No. With the fuel you've come up with the beam would last for what...15 seconds. Well what good is that?
    Chris: Oh Laslo. That doesn't matter. I respect you but I graduated.
    Mitch: Yeah, let the engineers figure out a use for it. That's not our concern.
    Laslo: Maybe somebody already has a use for it. One for which it is specifically designed.
    Jordan: You mean Dr. Hathaway had something in mind all along?
    Laslo: Look at the facts! Very high powered, portable, limited firing power, unlimited range. (Chris stops smiling.) All's you'd need is a tracking system, and a large spinning mirror and you could vaporize a human target from space.
    (Mitch glances at Chris.)
    Chris: This is not good.

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  4. Re:Targetting by weighn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Little or no collateral damage? Depends on the accuracy really. I reckon that GE, Boeing, or whoever happens to be marketing these less-than lethal weapons goes light on accuracy and draws attention more to the style associated with having such items. You know, like in marketing, but concerning less-than lethal weapons.

    Remember, it ain't the laser that kills you, its the sudden stop as you hit the dirt beneath what was once the building you were standing on.

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  5. Delivery vehicles by Kupfernigk · · Score: 5, Interesting
    In other news, the Chinese Government is working on ground based lasers that can shoot down C130s.

    One of the most interesting things for future military historians will be how the US, and to a lesser extent the UK, have believed in the effecitveness of action at a distance warfare. "Bomber" Harris in WW2 tried to destroy Nazi Germany by air bombing of cities. Didn't work, half bankrupted the British economy, while the Army and Navy were screaming for convoy escorts and air support. Germany still had to be fought over to end the war. (Meanwhile Hitler spent a fortune on V-weapons whose total effect for the entire war was less than two large RAF night raids.) The lessons had been learnt so well that in Vietnam the US spent a fortune bombing the jungle - then in Cambodia. There was a brief success in the first Gulf War where the fleeing Iraqis obligingly went down the same road and got bombed and shelled to pieces in a local action, so in GW2 Iraq was bombed back to the stone age, which brought the Iraqi war to an abrupt halt (not).

    So the US Government continues its development of bigger and better spears, still fantasising that one day they will develop the big one that will stop anyone, anywhere, from upsetting them. And forgetting that, no matter what firepower you put on a mobile weapons platform, it is still vulnerable to fixed weapons, and usually to small mobile weapons that cost relatively little to make and deploy.

    It's worth remembering that one of the most asymmetric military actions of WW2 was a French resistance girl who visited a German tank base on her bicycle, wandered around putting grease loaded with carborundum into track bearings, and disabled a battalion, riding off home again for lunch.

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    1. Re:Delivery vehicles by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Bomber" Harris in WW2 tried to destroy Nazi Germany by air bombing of cities. Actually, in his autobiography, Albert Speer said of a raid on Hamburg that destroyed most of Germany's ball bearing factories "if they had kept bombing for another two days, the war would have been over". The problem with Harris is that he was trying to destroy german civillian morale which is both morally wrong and non workable. If the Allies had been targetting choke points in the German war economy it could have caused a very quick collapse. Ball bearings are a special case. The factories take a long time but are very easy to destroy because they apparently used flammable oil baths. And armoured vehicles need regular spare parts that need ball bearings. All of this information was available to the Allies, it's almost common sense.

      Personally I would have threatened to bomb Swedish ball bearing factories too, if they continued to sell to the Nazis.

      And it's very noticable that bombing gradually crippled the german war economy despite the targetting being wrong. When you read about the development of V2s for example, it's quite clear that the German economy at the end of the war was chronically short of everything, mainly because of bombed out factories and railways. Same with all of the Nazi weapons work near the end of the war.
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  6. Re:You'd think... by jamesh · · Score: 5, Funny

    As they say, mechanical engineers build weapons, civil engineers build targets...

  7. Re:Passive Defence by jettoblack · · Score: 5, Informative

    No mirror reflects 100% of what hits it. Even if it only absorbs 0.1% of the beam, with this much energy the mirror will quickly deform or burn and its reflectivity will drop.

  8. Re:Passive Defence by Arabani · · Score: 5, Informative

    Furthermore, the output beam is infrared, which your average mirror or shiny metal isn't going to reflect. The other problem with shiny surfaces: how do you keep them shiny for long periods of time?

  9. Re:Cool but... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, that's just dandy if you're an American. But if you lived in Taiwan, South Korea or Israel, or Japan then America having the ability to shoot down ICBMs might come in handy.

    Because at the moment all those countries are menaced by a neighbour who is kept in check largely by the US. And all those neighbours either have or are very close to having ICBMs. And some of them are maybe crazy enough to threaten the US with those ICBMS or their neighbours. Now if the US can shoot them down there's much less incentive for them to do that. So missile defense is actually a geopolitical stabiliser.

    Come to think of it, even if you're in America it's far better that America is far ahead of any conceivable rival, because that deters them from a sprint to parity and then a Pearl Harbour style attack on the US or even engaging in brinksmanship and messing it up so that they end up swapping ICBMs with the US. Which would be far more expensive than current US defense policy, even ignoring the fact that millions of innocent people would die, many of them Americans.

    Most of these regimes seem to engage in brinksmanship with the US all the time. It seems likely that they view ICBMs as a tool to strengthen their hand, rather than just a defense to hunker down behind. And most of them have little or no understanding of US politics, so it's quite likely that they would miscalculate and get into a war with the US even if it were to make concessions to them. Arguably starting to make concessions to appease them would simply embolden then and make them start to demand things which the US cannot concede.

    So if I were you I'd vote to keep spending on defense. Come to think of it, the good old US military industrial complex will probably managed to get the dollars somehow regardless of how you vote.

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  10. Re:You'd think... by PinkyDead · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One of the arguments as to why Civil (biased) is better than Mechanical: The mech gets paid for once for designing the weapon, but the civil gets paid twice, firstly to design the structure, then to tell you how to blow it up.

    I remember Sky News did an interview with a guy who worked for the Iraqi's to build their bunkers, and then during Gulf War I worked with the US as a consultant.

    Study Civil Engineering
    ???
    Profit
    ???
    Profit

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  11. Re:Military Budget *isn't* the problem. by billcopc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    However that same military is the reason why we can bitch about the state of our country and the world with near impunity

    I don't think many Americans are worried about being invaded by foreign armies. They're mostly worried about being invaded by their own government.

    Bush may have killed a bunch of arabs, but he killed a ton of Americans too. The ones that lived, he made their lives just a little more miserable every few months. Keep going with this government, and soon it's the Americans that will seek political refuge abroad.

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