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Judge Rules TorrentSpy Destroyed Evidence

Come play kdice writes "A federal judge has handed the MPAA a resounding victory in its copyright infringement lawsuit against TorrentSpy. Judge Florence-Marie Cooper entered a default judgment against Justin Bunnell and the rest of the named defendants in Columbia Pictures et al. v. Justin Bunnell et al. after finding that TorrentSpy 'engaged in widespread and systematic efforts to destroy evidence'. After being sued, TorrentSpy mounted a vigorous defense, including a counter-suit it filed against the MPAA in May 2006, but, behind the scenes, the court documents paint a picture of a company desperately trying to bury any and all incriminating evidence. TorrentSpy has announced its intention to appeal, but its conduct makes a reversal unlikely."

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  1. Re:Not that I agree with the MPAA by gclef · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, they were ordered to log the IP addresses of their users. TorrentSpy tried to argue that they didn't have the logs, and that the IPs only existed in RAM, so logging them wasn't possible. They then got caught showing that they did have user's IPs, and they could have provided them.

    In short, TorrentSpy lied to a judge, and they got caught. That was remarkably stupid, and they're being punished for it.

  2. Re:Not that I agree with the MPAA by schnikies79 · · Score: 4, Informative

    They destroyed and changed IP logs. They went thread-by-thread on their forums and hand changed posts. They deleted whole threads and hid others.

    Obviously deliberate.

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  3. Don't forget earlier stories about her. by Seakip18 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is the same judge who decided information stored in RAM is easy to document and filter.

    Since that topic has been expounded upon, here are some articles about the judge in the case:

    1. Judge dismisses trial for prosecutor's misconduct
    Here, she dismissed a case when the prosecutors offered a plea agreement to a witness so he could not testify for the defense.

    2. Notorious BIG Trial mistrial declared
    In this instance, she declared a mistrial when LAPD was withholding evidence from the trial.

    3. Pooh Trial Thrown out (heh heh)
    A trial involving the Winnie the Pooh was ruled in favor of Disney after the family was found to have "tampered" with files at Disney.

    The judge has a love for evidence. Torrentspy shoulda known what would happen if they messed around with it.

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  4. Re:Justice prevailed... by Etrias · · Score: 4, Informative

    You really should pay attention more. In fact, here's a little primer from someone who should know the music business: David Byrne talks record companies and the current forms of control and distribution. It's a fascinating read.

    Please pay special attention to how much the artist cut is in traditional CD sales compared to the new digital distribution. You will find a huge disparity in what record companies are claiming and what is actually happening.

    I don't think TorrentSpy will get much sympathy from /. at all, however your current thoughts of how the business of music is run is, I fear, off base. A great many artists have few rights to their own songs which instead are owned, by and large, by the record companies who are looking for new ways to squeeze blood from a stone.

  5. Re:Man, I love living in 21st century America! by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Informative

    1: TorrentSpy testifies in court that IP information [FOR TORRENT TRACKING SOFTWARE] simply wasn't available
    2: MPAA finds evidence TorrentSpy can implement and enforce bans of users by IP address [ON INTERNET FORUMS, NOT TRACKING SOFTWARE]
    3: Under oath, a TorrentSpy moderator testifies IPs were logged [FOR FORUM SOFTWARE] until April 07 (more than a year after they were sued)
    Fixed that for you. phpBB =/= bittorrent tracker, and no, you can't assume someone who visits the forums downloaded something illegally... MPAA apparently visited the forums...