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Judge Rules TorrentSpy Destroyed Evidence

Come play kdice writes "A federal judge has handed the MPAA a resounding victory in its copyright infringement lawsuit against TorrentSpy. Judge Florence-Marie Cooper entered a default judgment against Justin Bunnell and the rest of the named defendants in Columbia Pictures et al. v. Justin Bunnell et al. after finding that TorrentSpy 'engaged in widespread and systematic efforts to destroy evidence'. After being sued, TorrentSpy mounted a vigorous defense, including a counter-suit it filed against the MPAA in May 2006, but, behind the scenes, the court documents paint a picture of a company desperately trying to bury any and all incriminating evidence. TorrentSpy has announced its intention to appeal, but its conduct makes a reversal unlikely."

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  1. Man, I love living in 21st century America! by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When the CIA destroys evidence that they tortured prisoners, the entire Justice Department jumps to their defense and gives their director a medal. When a small company that just provides links to pirated movies destroys evidence to protect its users from the thugs at the MPAA, they're criminals and must be punished!

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    1. Re:Man, I love living in 21st century America! by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The one doesn't invalid the other.

      Regardless of anything the CIA does, TorrentSpy deserves to be punished for having destroyed evidence (regardless further of whether they initially did anything wrong). It is also true that the CIA should be punished accordingly, but the failure of the courts to deal with that yet is simply irrelevant in the discussion of this case.

      If you're sued, DON'T DESTROY EVIDENCE! It eliminates any credibility, and exposes you to situations like this.

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    2. Re:Man, I love living in 21st century America! by Ochu · · Score: 5, Funny

      See, I get what you are saying.
      It is true, TorrentSpy are dicks. Criminal dicks
      But the thing is, given the level of assholery I think the **AAs are capable of, I still manage to side with the criminals.
      Because we need dicks to fuck asses.
      Otherwise, we're gonna be covered in shit.

    3. Re:Man, I love living in 21st century America! by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you read the article properly you will find that the evidence they destroyed was never collected, they did not destroy it they just didn't save it in the first place ...

      Oh and this is not a US company so the MPAA and the US courts cannot order them to save information that is not required by European law ...?

      America the land of the free ... well freeish.... sort of

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  2. Thanks For Destroying the Evidence! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm glad those sleazy rats at the MPAA won't be getting their greedy hands on my IP address from torrentspy.

    This is the digital equivalent of throwing yourself on a grenade to save your comrads. Right on.

    Thank you kindly,
    AC

  3. Severe Penalties Make it the Best Option by TheMiddleRoad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Perhaps a lawyer can tell us which has worse penalties, destruction of evidence or being found guilty of helping piracy. I imagine it's the latter.

  4. TorrentSpy = The Gun by dada21 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm really sick of our Federal system, as most of you know. It's completely ridiculous that law-school educated judges can not read the Constitution, and understand the basic definitions of freedom.

    Copyright is a Constitutionally-protected power of government. I understand that. I hate copyright, I would never use it, but I accept it. To infringe on copyright, a person must take someone else's art, and make a copy. That person who paints their own version of a copyright-protected oil painting will use oils and canvas to breach copyright. The oil manufacturer is not guilty. The canvas manufacturer is not guilty. Exxon/Mobil who provided fuel for you to drive to buy the oil and canvas are not guilty. Ford, who provided the car to get to the store to buy oil and canvas are not guilty. The person selling you a book with a license to reprint that oil, is not guilty. You, the person doing the copying, are guilty.

    TorrentSpy is like the gun, or the gun manufacturer. The murderer is the person actively aiming the weapon in anger, and pulling the trigger. The person selling the gun shouldn't care what the end user is going to do, other than warn them that they're buying something dangerous. The person making the gun should not be held responsible. The ACT of committing a crime comes from actually committing a crime.

    If copyright is moral, and valid, then the person doing the copying should be found guilty. Hosting a torrent is not hosting a file.

    If you vote, please vote against retention on every position. Judges need to be kicked out as quick as they're voted in. Vote against incumbents who enforce the law, too (police chief, etc). There's no reason to keep anyone in office long enough to abuse power. All these judges are just power-hungry. They can't understand that copyright is protected by the artist, only against someone else copying the art.

  5. Don't forget earlier stories about her. by Seakip18 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is the same judge who decided information stored in RAM is easy to document and filter.

    Since that topic has been expounded upon, here are some articles about the judge in the case:

    1. Judge dismisses trial for prosecutor's misconduct
    Here, she dismissed a case when the prosecutors offered a plea agreement to a witness so he could not testify for the defense.

    2. Notorious BIG Trial mistrial declared
    In this instance, she declared a mistrial when LAPD was withholding evidence from the trial.

    3. Pooh Trial Thrown out (heh heh)
    A trial involving the Winnie the Pooh was ruled in favor of Disney after the family was found to have "tampered" with files at Disney.

    The judge has a love for evidence. Torrentspy shoulda known what would happen if they messed around with it.

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    1. Re:Don't forget earlier stories about her. by s20451 · · Score: 5, Funny

      The judge has a love for evidence.

      Yeah, I prefer the ones who have already made up their mind in advance.

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