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FTC Approves Google-DoubleClick Deal

Bogie Lowenstein is one of many readers letting us know that the FTC has approved Google's acquisition of DoubleClick in a 4-to-1 vote. The FTC essentially blew off the privacy concerns about the merger, saying it lacked the legal authority to block the deal on any grounds except antitrust. The EU's review of the deal is still going forward, with a decision due by April 2, 2008; the privacy sensibility there is more sharply focused.

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  1. In other news by Hanners1979 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rumours that the vote was carried out online, on a page which hosted a brightly coloured, flashing DoubleClick advertisment which proclaimed 'Approve the merger and win a PlayStation 3!!!' are still yet to be confirmed.

    1. Re:In other news by dotpavan · · Score: 1

      the results were 4:1 because the one who tried the ad (you are referring to) did so by double-clicking on the banner, and later realized that even a single-click took him to the same location.. he was pissed at this misnomer

    2. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...also the panel was asked to vote for the merger or the search giant would release their online activities which include some nasty details. We wait to see the fate of the other panelist.

      I'm tempted to say Don't evil. ;)

  2. Re:more&more corepirate nazi incest by scubamage · · Score: 1

    What in the hell are you talking about? This post is damn near unreadable, and even if it was readable, its incomprehensable.

  3. Friction? by kilo_foxtrot84 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do you suppose this will cause contention between Google and Mozilla? I thought they had a mutually beneficial arrangement going... but what happens when Google owns DoubleClick, when one of Firefox's most popular add-ons--AdBlock--works to help us ignore DoubleClick ads? Will we see any sort of friction?

    1. Re:Friction? by scubamage · · Score: 1

      I doubt it would cause too much friction tbh. Mozilla provides an adblocker, but so does pretty much every other browser out there these days.

    2. Re:Friction? by spyrochaete · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think AdBlock, nor "The AdBlock Crew", are professionally affiliated with Mozilla. Besides, Google's main source of income is advertising and I don't think they've balked at this extension yet. Currently AdBlock blocks all Google ads very thoroughly.

    3. Re:Friction? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Do you suppose this will cause contention between Google and Mozilla?

      Mozilla's still open source, right?

      Then I don't really care.

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    4. Re:Friction? by lb746 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The adblock extension is just not as exciting. I prefer editing my hosts file to redirect all requests for ad servers to my localhost where I have a lovely collection of 180x60 pictures of myself. Nothing makes a webpage more readable than ad's of yourself.

    5. Re:Friction? by sipatha · · Score: 1

      I doubt if Mozilla developed the AdBlock addon, rather it was the community. Mozilla can just we built the best extensible browser, and the community are using it their way. Its just beyond us.

      But off course this does not mean the cash hungry Mozilla Inc won't figure a way of blocking this good tool, after all Google nearly own it in terms of source of revenue and delicate nature of the relationship.

    6. Re:Friction? by SCHecklerX · · Score: 1

      Adblock plus, with its default easylist + easyelement blocks google stuff already.

    7. Re:Friction? by knight24k · · Score: 1

      Do you suppose this will cause contention between Google and Mozilla? I thought they had a mutually beneficial arrangement going... but what happens when Google owns DoubleClick, when one of Firefox's most popular add-ons--AdBlock--works to help us ignore DoubleClick ads? Will we see any sort of friction?
      Maybe, but since I set ads.doubleclick.net to 127.0.0.1 in my HOSTS file I don't think I will notice much either way.
    8. Re:Friction? by spyrochaete · · Score: 1

      I used to do the same thing with host files pointing ad servers to 127.0.0.1. Noob that I was, I couldn't figure out why my personal website would appear in ad frames on other people's websites! Then it dawned on me that I was serving my website with IIS on my desktop computer.

      Nowadays I much prefer adblock. Sometimes domains host their own ads so I don't want to block the whole domain on every port.

  4. Good news by rinkjustice · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm glad this went through. Maybe DoubleClick's practices and privacy policies will be more transparent now their part of Google. And from a marketing standpoint, I can see the contextual relevancy of advertising online become a whole lot more relevant to the user.

    But mostly because it pisses off Microsoft.

    1. Re:Good news by Billosaur · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, I can see this beneficial. Especially now that DoubleClick content will be able to choke even more web pages with bloat thanks to Google's pervasiveness. I especially can't wait to have the loading times for pages soar, as they are loaded with ads for things even more irrelevant to my existence than the current ones.

      The above was sarcasm.

      I'm not sure Google can apply it's "Do No Evil" policy to DoubleClick, since marketing is the true gate to Hades.

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    2. Re:Good news by elchuppa · · Score: 1

      I think the reason that Google wants to purchase DoubleClick is because DoubleClick is more pervasive than Google in the display advertising market. Theoretically though, if they were to start targeting doubleclick ads using page content the same way they do with adwords then ads would likely become more relevant. Are they really so irrelevant now? They aren't for me, overall relevancy is way higher than through other mediums. I do have the same negative opinion of marketing. Advertising is probably not the correct way to go about funding information distribution.

    3. Re:Good news by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

      Marketing has basically been the focus of Google's business model Google has had from the start.

      I'm just worried because Doubleclick has been blocked in my hosts file for so long that birds have nested in the pits it leaves on my RAM. Now that Google's involved, Doubleclick might actually get an ad through to me somehow.

    4. Re:Good news by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Pisses off Microsoft? Microsoft was able to acquire Aquantive, a company about the same size (and in the same business) as DoubleClick in record time. (Both acquisition deals started about the same time.) Microsoft's laughing all the way to the bank, just because Aquantive kept a low profile in the press and DoubleClick didn't.

    5. Re:Good news by Billosaur · · Score: 1

      Better add some new domains to your list:

      • GoogleClick
      • DoubleGoogle
      • Cloogle
      • Dougle

      It won't surprise me when they come up with new vectors to push the ads through.

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  5. Relativism by TheMeuge · · Score: 1

    Perhaps this is one of those cases where the concerns are moot, given the opportunity for privacy abuse already present. The acquisition of DoubleClick will probably not serve to dramatically increase the potential and scope of privacy violations that are already possible for Google.

    So, even if we discount FTCs decision on the grounds they presented, there may be little reason to worry over the final outcome.

    1. Re:Relativism by Stanistani · · Score: 1

      >The acquisition of DoubleClick will probably not serve to dramatically increase the potential and scope of privacy violations that are already possible for Google.

      But it would dramatically increase the potential and scope of privacy violations that are already possible for DoubleClick.

    2. Re:Relativism by Billosaur · · Score: 3, Funny

      Except that the dictum "Do No Evil" will sweep down on DoubleClick, and lo, there will be a conversion, and DoubleClick will be truned from its evil ways... and peace will reign over the Net.

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    3. Re:Relativism by Mongoose+Disciple · · Score: 1

      I assume when you mix a good company and an evil company, you get an evil company. Kind of like multiplying a positive number and a negative number.

      Personally, I think Google should change their motto to "Do no petty evil." or something like that. They'd still avoid running sweatshops or monopolistic business practices, but they'd get to have killer robots, sharks with lasers on their heads, and hidden fortresses. The geek street cred would be off the charts.

    4. Re:Relativism by Stanistani · · Score: 1

      You don't think good fair kings don't have evil minions on the payroll?

      I think we just saw Google buy a minion.

      "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?"

  6. Market Share Is Too Small At Present by sjbe · · Score: 1

    what happens when Google owns DoubleClick, when one of Firefox's most popular add-ons--AdBlock--works to help us ignore DoubleClick ads? Will we see any sort of friction?


    I doubt it will be a serious problem in the near future. Long term though we can hope!
  7. Does this mean.... by Itninja · · Score: 1

    ...that most banner ads will have a giant 'BETA' slapped across them? And frankly, banner are just a problem for folks you don't use the Firefox/Ad-Blocker/No-Script combo.... body blow! body blow! Put him away!!!!

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  8. Re:more&more corepirate nazi incest by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Funny

    What in the hell are you talking about? This post is damn near unreadable, and even if it was readable, its incomprehensable.

    His tinfoil hat is too tight.

    He's been taking bong hits from the timecube again.

    And, I think he said God told him to put a chicken in his underpants, but I'm not entirely sure of that one. :-P

    Cheers
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  9. who cares about doubleclick? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Is there a person on the internet who has not blackholed doubleclick? Of what possible significance are they any more?

  10. Lacked legal authority... by nebaz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not sure about the privacy implications, but I'm glad that a federal agency finally recognizes its own jurisdictional limits, unlike some other agency I can think of who is supposed to be regulating radio broadcast spectrum allocation, not content on said spectrum. Still though, I hope it's not an excuse to pander to big business, like some of what the EPA does when they say that the lack legal authority, even when judges rule that they do not lack such.

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  11. Hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I have doubleclick blocked in my hosts file. It makes slashdot load faster, incidentally.

    Though all the "sponsored links" in google search results are broken. I have to hack the url to remove the reference to doubleclick in order to get to the site.

    That is ok with me though...I don't often have much reason to click a sponsored link.

  12. another billion dollar condom by CrackPipePls · · Score: 0

    In one hand google "microsofted" another competitor In the other hand google will be able to do behaviour tracking much more openy while concentrating the resulting lawsuits under the "doubleclick" condom, just like they bought youtube as a lawsuit condom over the video department, the end result is everything will be dirty while the name "google" remains clean

  13. Bogie Lowenstein by mr100percent · · Score: 1

    IIRC, Bogie Lowenstein was the guy in "10 Things I Hate About You" that threw parties, perhaps involuntarily.

  14. Not the end of stories (here anyway) ... by foobsr · · Score: 1

    Living in Europe, I do not see that this is the end of the story.

    Quote: "The European Commission, as it proceeds in evaluating the Google-DoubleClick deal, may have concerns with whether challenging the merger will ultimately be overturned by the European Court of First Instance, which serves as an appeals court. ... The Commission is seeking to make its (merger) clearances, as well as its prohibitions, as appeal-proof as possible," (emphasis mine)

    They will probably have a hard time doing so.

    CC.

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  15. Love our FTC by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Has this administration's FTC ever seen a merger it didn't like? I'm pretty sure they'd approve a merger of Standard Oil, Microsoft, AT&T, and Google into one enormous uber-monopoly that controlled everything on the planet.

    1. Re:Love our FTC by PTBarnum · · Score: 1

      How can they be a monopoly if they are controlling only one planet? Science has shown that there are lots of planets on which none of those companies currently operate. For example, did you know that the RIAA has never sued anyone living on Venus? And that the CIA has never overthrown a government on Jupiter?

      Earth: love it or leave it

    2. Re:Love our FTC by rayzat · · Score: 1

      The only two companies in that list that shouldn't be merged are Microsoft and Google. The other comapnies, Exxon, AT&T, and either Microsoft or Google could merge no problem. Event though they are huge, they don't have that much overlap in business and if the combined Googattxon tried to do something like block other search engines from AT&T network or something else they would shoot themselves in the foot so bad they would start falling apart immediatly. There are very few conglomerates that really opperate efficiently and just because you are the biggest oil company and the biggest phone company you don't really gain that much more leverage then you had before.

  16. Re:more&more corepirate nazi incest by urcreepyneighbor · · Score: 1

    I have no idea what you're talking about - rambling with strange punctuation, but "pirate nazi incest" sounds scintillating!

    Arrr, untermensch! Off with your knickers!

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  17. Does google know that doubleclick is evil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This merger will hurt google. Googles positive reputation can only be dragged down by affiliating itself with double-click.

    I love google, but ill block them at my router before i let doubleclick into by boxes.

    1. Re:Does google know that doubleclick is evil? by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Ridding the internet of Double Click is about as not-evil as they can get.

      Google does not need Double Click, Google knows that people hate Double Clicks stupid annoying ads, what better way to make the internet better than getting rid of one of its major annoyances?

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  18. Do no Evil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Except that the dictum "Do No Evil" will sweep down on DoubleClick

    I am aware of no such dictum.

    Are you confusing it with Google's famous "Don't Be Evil" informal corporate motto?

    I should also point out that one can do evil things now and then without actually "being" evil..so the difference is not purely semantic.

    1. Re:Do no Evil? by YU+Nicks+NE+Way · · Score: 1

      For what it's worth, the slogan "don't be evil" is really a shorthand for one of the Ten things Google has found to be true (number 6), which actually reads "You can make money without doing evil."

  19. Re:more&more corepirate nazi incest by Malevolent+Tester · · Score: 1

    He's been taking bong hits from the timecube again.

    Evil educators deny foursquare bong hits. You are brainwashed stupid by non harmonious word god. Perhaps, you should stop worshipping Satanic impersonator and match my cubic wisdom. Corporate Nazi incest only occurs with opposites, not foursquare harmonic time cube of perpetual man.
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  20. Re:more&more corepirate nazi incest by ScentCone · · Score: 1

    for each of the creators' innocents harmed in any way, there is a debt that must/will be repaid by you/us, as the perpetrators/minions of unprecedented evile, will not be available after the big flash occurs

    You know - and I'm just going with my gut on this one - it's possible, however remotely, that you are a complete loon. It is, though, a really terrific mashup of paranoia, off-kilter religious wackoism, and damaged linguistic goods. As performance art, this is fine. As a bit of cognition on your part, it's really... sad, I'm afraid. Oh well.

    we're intending for the nazis to give up/fail even further, in attempting to control the 'weather'.

    But, it's worth it! I mean, that's gold, right there.

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  21. Re:more&more corepirate nazi incest by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    Evil educators deny foursquare bong hits. You are brainwashed stupid by non harmonious word god. Perhaps, you should stop worshipping Satanic impersonator and match my cubic wisdom. Corporate Nazi incest only occurs with opposites, not foursquare harmonic time cube of perpetual man.

    backs away slowly, avoiding eye contact ...
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  22. If you can protect your against Google intrusion by Janos421 · · Score: 1

    ... You can protect your privacy against Double-Click. Most privacy enforcement solutions rely on proxy and anonymity and remain useful for Google-Click. Only few dedicated solutions (like Scroogle) are concerned by this merge.

    But is it really that bad? If you think about it with android Google will soon know more about you I guess. Is Double-Click really a threat when users choose to let Google logging their Web History? The only point is that now Google won't say "If you don't like that, you can use another search engine" cause you can not choose what ads are displayed.

    Anyway, I'm still developing a privacy enforcement extension for Firefox (http://squigglesr.free.fr). Basically it sends queries to search engine and click on some (non-adwords) results. I guess now I'll have to simulate get double-click ads...

  23. Blew off? by IronChef · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The FTC essentially blew off the privacy concerns about the merger, saying it lacked the legal authority to block the deal on any grounds except antitrust.

    So... working within what you perceive as the legal limitations of your office is just "blowing off" the problem. You're right--we need more people in government seizing power for our own good.

    1. Re:Blew off? by pimpimpim · · Score: 1

      Isn't owning almost all internet-use data of the US population (and more!) an issue for anti-trust? With their "monopoly" on gathering this data, their marketing possibilities by far exceed that of any competitor. [ tin foil hat mode ] Maybe a single and fairly complete database of browsing data will come in handy for some government institutions?

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    2. Re:Blew off? by IronChef · · Score: 1

      With their "monopoly" on gathering this data, their marketing possibilities by far exceed that of any competitor.

      I think that would only apply if there were such competitors, or if they were trying to emerge. You can't be busted for cornering the market on a market that doesn't exist yet.

      (Anyway, I feel like I should say that this result sucks, but it sounds like it was arrived at by the rules, which means fundamentally that the rules sucked first.)

  24. I hope google fix it :( by Bulk70 · · Score: 1

    Speaking as someone who has to use DFP (Doubleclick For Publishers) to put up new adverts and such - I can tell you the current system is a total pile of utter garbage (think full on ActiveX) and I cant wait for Google to hopefully get in and clean up the interface/system.

  25. Parent is not flamebait by LandruBek · · Score: 1

    You make a valid point and I'm sorry to see you modded as Flamebait. In fact the trend against trustbusting goes back to WWII -- to the grave detriment of the Pharma and Media markets.

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  26. Re:more&more corepirate nazi incest by SnowZero · · Score: 1
  27. Privacy by Stachel · · Score: 1

    My answer: Privoxy.

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  28. privacy nuts by moracity · · Score: 1

    I'm so tired of privacy nuts. There is no such thing as privacy or anonymity...especially on the internet. If you don't want Google to know anything about you, don't use their service. No one is forcing you to. Likewise, don't do business with anyone using Double-click's service.

    In fact, if you want real privacy, go live in the woods a cut yourself off from humanity. Of course, the animals will know where you eat, sleep, and shit. Sorry.

  29. Why Google needs this deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AdWords is currently the ONLY profitable revenue source Google has and it is increasingly under assault. First there was the whole click fraud debacle and now it appears as though Google is being sued for patent infringement: http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-vaedce/case_no-2:2007cv00582/case_id-224878/ Yes, there have been many patent infringement cases filed against Google, but unlike most of the other cases, this patent specifically covers the automated bid adjustment mechanism used by AdWords and numerous other PPC search engines. Imagine if you woke up tomorrow and you had to start manually adjusting your AdWords bids. Every time a competitor raised or lowered his bid price, you would have to respond manually, rather than letting AdWords adjust your bid according to the rules you defined. For the vast majority of advertisers, AdWords would become unusable. This scenario is surely the kind of nightmare that keeps Sergey and Larry awake at night and scrambling during the day to implement a Plan-B in case AdWords goes poof.