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Microsoft is the Industry's Most Innovative Company?

mjasay writes "According to a recent analysis by IEEE, Microsoft's patent portfolio tops the industry in terms of overall quality of its patents. And while Microsoft came in second to IBM in The Patent Board's 2006 survey, its upcoming 2007 report has Microsoft besting IBM (and even its 2006 report had Microsoft #1 in terms of the "scientific strength" of its patent portfolio). All of which begs the question: Just where is all this innovation going? To Clippy? Consumers and business users don't buy patents. They buy products that make their lives easier or more productive, yet Microsoft doesn't seem to be able to turn its patent portfolio into much more than life support for its existing Office and Windows monopolies. In sum, if Microsoft is so innovative, why can't we get something better than the Zune?"

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  1. Did they include... by nog_lorp · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder if they included Microsoft patents such as their Virtual Desktop Pager patent? (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&p=1&p=1&S1=(Microsoft.ASNM.+AND+%22Virtual+desktop+manager%22)&OS=AN/Microsoft+and+) Honestly, a vast portion of Microsoft's patents are complete bullshit that should NEVER have been awarded. Remove cases of OBVIOUS prior art (Linux has had virtual desktop pagers as described in that patent forever, and when they received this patent Microsoft had never used such a thing), and Microsoft's patent portfolio is shit. ~nog_lorp

  2. Microsoft Research is awesome by Lank · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Microsoft Research is really cool. They crank out cool stuff all the time! Take a look! The problem is that most of their stuff never sees the light of day. MS just gets the patent then bury it and move on. WinFS and other neat things came out of there. They hire a lot of PhDs, too... James Larus, the guy that wrote SPIM (MIPS simulator) works there now...

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  3. They have some amazing new technology... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Things that I have either heard of or seen coming from Redmond:

    1. Analysis of a video feed to generate a 3D model of the scene being filmed.
    2. That minority space wall, but without a special glove and working.
    3. Network LOD for fast-paced games that let one server drive hunrderds of clients.
    4. 2D neural-net based code that learned to drive a car (still only in the simulation phase.).

    Any of which could have had multiple patents. A lot of what they do is impractical as a product now (the wall for instance), but is an investment in the future. Like in the early 90's when they purchased tons of digital rights. And some, like the Network LOD, are designed for developers to tie them into MS products.

    But Microsoft, like AT&T when it had too much money, take a bunch of academics, give them money, and tell them to do cool things. After all, the whole deparment will pay for itself with a couple of nifty inventions.

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  4. Well, duh by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's because innovation isn't measurable by the number of patents you produce. Let me tell you my patent story.

    I used to work at a company that made a widget. Details left out because of possible NDA/lawsuit goodness.

    There were 3 or 4 other players in this widget space. There are about 3 or 4 useful functions any of these widgets can do.

    One of the other players decides to patent "feature A from this widget, combined with feature B from this other widget". A multi function widget, merely taking two functions from two widgets and combining them. In other words, peanut butter is ok, and jelly is ok, but putting peanut butter with jelly is *hugely innovative* and deserves a patent.

    We held meetings and began to file patents too. They were all equally insane.

    There was NO INNOVATION going on in these meetings. Just carving up the widget patent space - that has existed for years - with each of these little companies nit-picking each other to death with patent suits and royalty fees.

    Patents do not equal innovation.

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  5. Re:Research! by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The thing is, where is this alleged research going? We don't see it in MS's products; this was stated in the article summary. This is always the answer trotted out when anyone questions MS's patents and MS Research.

    When IBM comes up with some great new technology, like the damascene process (copper on ICs), SOI, etc., we see it in chips pretty soon after. It was only about 10 years ago that the copper process was invented by IBM, and now every CPU has it to my knowledge, as has for quite some time. Intel invented a "strained silicon" process, and their CPUs have it now.

    So where are MS Research's efforts paying off? Research isn't any good if it isn't actually applied somewhere. Basic research with no obvious course to application has its place, such as with fundamental science like quantum physics, exploration of Mars, etc., but software isn't one of them. If you can't find a place to use your findings, you've wasted your time. Back in the 60s-70s, researchers invented new programming languages and operating systems, and pretty soon industry and academia were all using C on UNIX machines. But we haven't seen anything come out of MS Research that's made a significant difference in anyone's lives.

  6. Re:Not that bad. by jimicus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Nobody's saying "Everything Microsoft produces is crap". (Or they shouldn't be, because it's not true).

    What is true is that Microsoft do not - indeed have never - innovated. They've taken existing ideas, either bought them or copied them then marketed the hell out of the result.

    Examples:

    Flight Simulator - bought from SubLogic. (You said this yourself!)

    FoxPro - Originally produced by Fox Software, which was bought out by Microsoft in 1992.

    Outlook/Exchange - Lotus Notes was a groupware product well before then.

    Access - Originally plagiarised from Borland Paradox.

    Excel - Plagiarised from Lotus 1-2-3. The two were basically playing leapfrog in feature sets before 1-2-3 bit the dust.

    Word - Plagiarised features from WordPerfect. Won the battle primarily by being sold to the boss rather than the secretary who was actually typing the letters.

    Windows - Most graphical operating systems of the 1980's-1990's were shamelessly taking ideas from each other. The bar across the bottom of the screen, for instance, was seen in RISC OS and CDE long before Windows '95 hit the shelves.

    XBox Live - the PS2 offered online play, but Sony never really exploited this. Frankly, it was a little early because it predated ubiquitous broadband.

    In fact, Microsoft can't even innovate at the very simplest level.

    Microsoft Paint (yes, that crappy little paint tool which has come free with Windows since the Windows 3.x days) - Take a look at this. It's PC Paintbrush for DOS - developed by a company called ZSoft.