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Alpine 1.00 Brings Pine Back

Posted by Soulskill on from the old-friend-new-face dept.

TreeDork alerts us that Alpine 1.00 has now been released by the University of Washington. The full source and documentation are available."On the surface, Alpine will appear strikingly similar to the Pine Message System, and it is upwards-compatible for existing Pine users. Alpine is released under the Apache License, Version 2.0. The source code has been reorganized from the ground up to separate the user interface code from the underlying email engine itself. All of the source needed to build Unix, Windows, and Web-based mail user agents is included.

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  1. by Jimmeney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    they have invented another email/im client, true genius at work you know it was only the other day i was just saying i wanted an a email messaging app (i hear they are all the rage)and i couldnt find any using that goggle thing, thank goodness i saw this article

  2. Why bother by Chrisq · · Score: 0, Troll

    Why bother when you can use gmail or any one of a number of excellent webmail clients.

    1. Re:Why bother by heinousjay · · Score: -1, Troll

      Just for kicks, really, in principle I don't really disagree:

      Part 1:

      1. WebMail is *really* slow compared to PINE

      Absolute speed is important to a fairly small number of users.

      2. FireFox with a webmail system in it takes up many times the screen space

      And windowing systems essentially make that complaint obsolete. Unless you weren't aware that resizing, overlapping, and hiding windows are basic features in nearly all windowing systems.

      3. I don't especially want to trust a third party with my private data

      Best not let your email get routed over the Internet, then. In general, however, this is the killer feature of hosting your own mail.

      4. I don't want my mail to be inaccessible when some 3rd party web mail server goes tits-up

      How many people want to run their own high availability email server?

      5. If I run my own MTA I can do some useful automated stuff with things like procmail

      You've got one there, but like the absolute speed, it's an edge case.

      6. I happen to like the interface

      Totally subjective, and definitely not generally applicable.

      and Part 2

      1. Offline access to your mail (not everyone has an 'always on connection'

      Gmail for one allows this with no hassles.

      2. Sync with your PDA/Phone/Mobile computing device

      Same as above. The IMAP works beautifully.

      3. Good mail filtering (gmail's search and tags are okay, but they're not like real filtering)

      Filtering beyond what Gmail offers is again an edge case.

      4. Extra spam protection above and beyond what gmail offers

      Considering the abilities conferred to Gmail's spam filtering through the massive aggregation of email they have available, and considering Gmail's excellent track record, I don't see what more would need to be done.

      5. Better handling of attachments

      You have one there.

      6. Pine/Alpine, unlike GUI clients, will work well on a console. (What do you do if X keeps crashing and you need to e-mail someone to get help?)

      It's fairly obvious in this day and age that console access is, once again, an edge case.

      7. Works over ssh/telnet

      HTTP can be routed over SSH, so basically, webmail works just fine. Telnet is kind of a joke.

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  3. Inertia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I imagine that this is meant for people who, back in the day, learnt Pine because there were no other choices available on their university computers and will just keep going with that because of inertia. People who want to change to a powerful e-mail client that doesn't require a GUI now would probably do better with something that can be used in Emacs, because then you get not only CLI-reachable e-mail but all the other powerful tools Emacs provides. I would therefore recommend O'Reilly's Learning GNU Emacs to get started with Emacs in general, and then the Gnus reader for e-mail and news.

    (Any post recommending Emacs will probably be challenged by a call to use Vi, but does Vi have e-mail clients? I'm really curious to know.)

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  5. It's alright ... by ThirdPrize · · Score: 0, Troll

    two people wrote it and 8 people use it. Not quite sure what its doing on the font page but prob best to leave em to it.

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  6. But by cyofee · · Score: -1, Troll

    Why use Alpine when Gmail does everything better, and you can access it from everywhere?

  7. Webmail vs. Pine by CompMD · · Score: 1, Troll

    Interestingly, all the "OMG GMAIL LOLZ PINE IS FOR LOOSERS" posts are all from people with UIDs greater than 850000. Coincidence?

    The kids these days...

  8. Hey wait a minute! by conares · · Score: 0, Troll

    Pine Message System...PMS anyone?

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