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Army Buys Macs to Beef Up Security

agent_blue writes "The Army is integrating Macs into their IT network to thwart hack attempts. The Mac platform, they argue, is more secure because there are fewer attacks against OS X than Windows-based systems. 'Military procurement has long been driven by cost and availability of additional software--two measures where Macintosh computers have typically come up short against Windows-based PCs. Then there have been subtle but important barriers: For instance, Macintosh computers have long been incompatible with a security keycard-reading system known as Common Access Cards system, or CAC, which is heavily used by the military. The Army's Apple program, created [in 2005], is working to change that.'"

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  1. but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    i thought they don't allow gays in the military?!?

    1. Re:but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey I'm gay you insensitive clod... wait no...!!! That joke backfired horribly!!

    2. Re:but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      There's no rule against being a Mac user in the military. You're just not allowed to tell people that you're a Mac user, and they're not allowed to ask if you're a Mac user.

  2. How many times? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How many times do I have to keep telling people that security is more about the skill of the IT staff than it is about the operating system it runs on?

    Yes, Windows has vulnerabilities. Windows sucks as far as security goes. That goes for Vista, too. But waving around an OS like it was some magic bullet that's going to somehow fix your security problems is, well, insanity.

    1. Re:How many times? by VirusEqualsVeryYes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Psh, yeah. That 8% of Macs -- only a few tens of millions? All with no anti-virus software whatsoever? And the fame/infamy of being the first to write a self-replicating virus for Macs?

      Yeah. Totally not worth it.

      Stop perpetuating simple-minded myths.

    2. Re:How many times? by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How many times do I have to keep telling people that security is more about the skill of the IT staff than it is about the operating system it runs on?

      "More about" is not the same as "entirely about." Sure, a good IT staff with a bad system will be more secure than a bad IT staff with a good system. But a good IT staff with a good system will be more secure than either. And Unix-based systems, including OS X, are demonstrably better in terms of security than Windows-based systems are.

      Do you think the Army should go back to using bolt-action rifles? It's true that a good marksman with an M1903 is more useful on the battlefield than a bad marksman with an M16, but ...

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  3. One small step by kryliss · · Score: 5, Funny

    One small step for Mac one giant leap for Mac kind.

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  4. CAC on OS X has been working for a while... by Eagle7 · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=cac+on+mac&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

    Support is built into Safari, and it is possible to set it up to log into a Windows domain, I believe.

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  5. I'm stumped. by grub · · Score: 4, Funny


    How will they know if the user prefers a Mac or PC with their "Don't ask, don't tell" policy?

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  6. It's about avoiding a computing monoculture by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Insightful
    But waving around an OS like it was some magic bullet that's going to somehow fix your security problems is, well, insanity.

    If you read the article instead of the headline, you'll see that the Army is making the attack target more diversified, so that a single attack will not bring down all computers. What's wrong with that tactic?

    1. Re:It's about avoiding a computing monoculture by WinterSolstice · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As a long time opponent of homogeneous computing/infrastructure I think this is a great move. Any security conscious shop makes certain to balance the management benefits along with the heterogeneous benefits.

      Sure, it's cute and cheap to run everything on any one platform, but like they always say "spread out or one grenade will get you all".

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  7. Computer security specialists by HangingChad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The clear majority of the really high end computer security people I know are driving Macs. On the military side Army and Marines seem to be tinkering more with Linux. The Marines less so because of NMCI, but there was a demo of battlefield information system that was Linux based. Navy and Marines have pretty much locked themselves into Windows desktops managed by EDS on the administrative side. A move I believe will go down as one of the great defeats in Naval history, with casualties of 250 million American taxpayers.

    Don't know about the Air Force but the few AF people I've met at conferences seemed pretty on the ball and struck me as Linux curious if not outright supporters.

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  8. Military Intelligence by Foofoobar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mac: Hi I'm a Mac
    PC: and I'm a PC
    Military Intelligence: And I'm no longer an oxymoron

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  9. Magic Bullets Kill... sometimes not who you think by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... The Mac platform, they argue, is more secure because there are fewer attacks against OSX than Windows-based systems. ...

    Not any more.

    If the army is using it for that reason then you know the Chinese, Russians, and any other tech savvy nation will now point their hackers at Macs.
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  10. Bootcamp by corychristison · · Score: 4, Funny

    Brings a whole new meaning to BootCamp, doesn't it?

  11. one point of failure by Foofoobar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    so whats wrong with supporting more than one OS? Would you prefer one point of failure? A good sys admin can support multiple platforms. The only people I ever hear complain about this are Windows people who can't support anything else. Linux admins can ALWAYS support Windows and Mac platforms so why is it so hard for the vast majority of Windows admins to support the other platforms? Hmmm...? Do you just prefer having a single point of failure?

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  12. Re:OpenBSD??? by peragrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually on a properly designed system not even the Administrator's should be able to install applications alone. And no one should be able to open every file.

    Files should be locked, So while the Admin's can see them, move/copy them, they can't actually open the file itself. security should extend to more than just the file system, but to the files themselves. Of course being open to all should also be a manual changed possibility.

    I wonder how long it will take for someone who makes more money than I will ever see to figure that out.

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  13. Beg to differ, OS X at install pretty secure by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    1) Out of the box, you don't have services running you can exploit.

    2) On install, OS X makes you chose a username so you have to log in to use the system.

    3) OS X by default is suspicious of all content coming in from the web.

    OS X already starts out with a high level of security, and doesn't do anything that would lead a user to weaken that without need (say opening a port for printer sharing).

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  14. Re:Army buys BigMacs to Beef Up by Nullav · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anyway, who else has a hard time imagining an army without right clicks?
    Not me! How do they plan to assign orders after selecting units? It's like these people have never been on the field!
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  15. Re:OpenBSD??? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While openBSD may be more secure, remember the Army is about procedures. Leopard has been certified as Unix like AIX and Solaris. Leopard has gone through the time and expense to be certified, and it has a better UI whereas openBSD has not.

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