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OLPC a Hit in Remote Peruvian Village

mrcgran writes "The Chicago Tribune is running a feel-good story about the effects of OLPC on a remote village in Peru. 'Doubts about whether poor, rural children really can benefit from quirky little computers evaporate as quickly as the morning dew in this hilltop Andean village, where 50 primary school children got machines from the One Laptop Per Child project six months ago. At breakfast, they're already powering up the combination library/videocam/audio recorder/music maker/drawing kits. At night, they're dozing off in front of them — if they've managed to keep older siblings from waylaying the coveted machines. Peru made the single biggest order to date — more than 272,000 machines — in its quest to turn around a primary education system that the World Economic Forum recently ranked last among 131 countries surveyed.'"

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  1. A shining path to success... by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which may worry some people in power when impressionable children have access to all kinds of corrupting influences. "Daddy, what is 'capitalism'?" or "Teacher, why don't I have freedom of the press like my friends in America?"

    I predict some kind of censorship - under the cover of 'protecting' them, of course - within a year.

    1. Re:A shining path to success... by MPAB · · Score: 3, Informative

      Was the title chosen intentionally?

    2. Re:A shining path to success... by TrippTDF · · Score: 4, Interesting

      and I think your comment gets to the heart of what the OLPC is supposed to be- a liberating device that can bring the internet to everyone, regardless of geographic location... what if one of these kids turns out to have the brainpower of an Einstein or a Hawking? If they have internet access, the world may be able to recognize them in ways that it couldn't before.

    3. Re:A shining path to success... by msuarezalvarez · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Did you think of all that in the designated free speech zone?

    4. Re:A shining path to success... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you think that Peru is a commie state, your level of education is quite low, we are a free country ( and we have largely defeated those murderous commie pinkos called shining path ( I spit on the ground just thinking about that nefarious name) we have freedom of press, better news reporting than the ones I see in the US, the education outside the big cities is largely low BECAUSE of the lack of government interest, try visiting peru soime day, the biggest source of corruption there is from the government, not the other way around.

    5. Re:A shining path to success... by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Funny

      biggest source of corruption there is from the government, not the other way around. Yeah, that's what he said: capitalism.

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    6. Re:A shining path to success... by palegray.net · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The older I get, the more convinced I become that many people gifted with truly exceptional intellects are frequently so discouraged by life that they essentially withdraw from society, functioning at what might be considered a "bare minimum" for most of their lives. I guess you could say the lucky ones find themselves in the right place, at the right time, with the right opportunities to excel presented to them. Sometimes all it takes is one opportunity.

      On the other hand, the world has always been this way, and always will be as long as we're human in terms of how the word is defined now. It's sad to think about what might have been lost already in our brief history, so I like to focus on the good in this world. In my opinion, any efforts geared toward bettering the education of a society are worthwhile.

    7. Re:A shining path to success... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Informative

      Huh? Are you crazy or ignornat? Peru is a capitalist country since about Fujimori's term in the 80s. The "shining path" that you slyly mention in your post title is a failed marxist movement. I cant imagine the various olpc countries having such a problem with the olpc, especially Perum perhaps with the exception of libya. Peruvians know that communism is a bad idea, doesnt scale, and has been a worldwide failure which usually leads into massive human rights violations and mass starvation, comrade.

    8. Re:A shining path to success... by mr.hawk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The older I get, the more convinced I become that many people gifted with truly exceptional intellects are frequently so discouraged by life that they essentially withdraw from society, functioning at what might be considered a "bare minimum" for most of their lives.

      I think you could easily generalize this to include any individual that is not in the right place. Doesn't matter if it's maths, sports, crafts, arts, music or whatever else their good at. A good environment which fosters diversity and recognizes special skills makes all the difference.

      Unfortunately it's probably impossible to cater to those that fall very far from the center of the mainstream.

      What I'm trying to say is that society should - IMHO - constantly strive to encourage and recognize diversity.

    9. Re:A shining path to success... by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What I'm trying to say is that society should - IMHO - constantly strive to encourage and recognize diversity. And obviously a top down, monolithic, state run education system is a great way to accomplish that.
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    10. Re:A shining path to success... by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Insightful
      What I'm trying to say is that society should - IMHO - constantly strive to encourage and recognize diversity.
      And obviously a top down, monolithic, state run education system is a great way to accomplish that.

      Yes, because a completly private education system means that only the children of aristocrats can get or afford a quality education, the peasants' children mostly get none and end up as stoop labourers or factory fodder. A few very bright (or just lucky in who they know) will get scholarshops, but most will have no chance to better themselves above their family's station.

  2. Education by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Education is extremely important. All those saying "well, what they really need is better medicine, food, etc." what I have to say is: Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for the rest of his life.

    1. Re:Education by phillips321 · · Score: 2, Funny

      i'd like to see how fishing is done with a laptop....(even though i agree with your comment)

    2. Re:Education by eln · · Score: 3, Funny

      Give a man Internet access, and he'll surf porn all day and starve to death.

    3. Re:Education by msuarezalvarez · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So you want to teach the kids how to set up power plants and water infrastructure?

    4. Re:Education by MBCook · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'll ignore all the normal arguments (like the fact there are other groups working on that kind of stuff). Let me ask you this:

      Which is better? A disruptive technology now, or an infrastructure in 40 years?

      If you give the kids laptops now, they learn to learn. They learn some physics. They learn some science. They learn some this, they learn some that. They are like renaissance people, learning a little about everything. They get the benefit of being able to look up the solutions other cultures have come up for to fix problem. They can improve their world in the next few years, even if in small ways. As they get older and more kid go through things, things improve. Some kids break out of the cycle, and they may decide to help donate to get others out.

      Option two is to put up schools. We'll ignore the problem of keeping the funding going. You make the schools. If you can get the kids into the schools and get them to keep going (read the article to see how the OLPC is doing this), it's still 9 years to get the kid into the high-school range. They are limited by whatever materials they get. By the time they make a difference in the world, it may be 20+ years. It's a very long term investment. In the mean time, things won't change too much. Without the ability to go look up how someone solved problem X, they are forced to reinvent the wheel sometimes, slowing progress.

      People have been trying the school option in the US and basically every other country on Earth for a long time. Charities have been setting up schools in poor countries (in Africa, South America, and other places, for example) for easily 30 years. Yet those countries still have these problems. Now we have a way that may improve things faster.

      Worst case scenario: the kids stay in school and things happen the old-fashioned way.

      All this ignores more immediate stuff. People in little villages would have to make pots, and toys, and many other things. There are people who, if given access (through eBay, for example) 10-100x what those people sell the things for right now. All they need is access to the market. It wouldn't take much of that to improve the lives of many people, spreading the wealth as they improved their lives.

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    5. Re:Education by rbanffy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "They don't need computer skills or the internet"

      One of the key mistakes made almost every time computers are introduced to kids is to try to introduce them to computers.

      XOs are not tools to teach "computer skills". They are tools to teach reading, writing, arithmetic, science _and_ some basic computer skills. They are much more than most people see. Think of them as an infinite number of books distributed for free to any kid in the country in real time and you start grasping the idea.

  3. ob by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

    Huh? I thought they'd concluded it was a meteorite?

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  4. Too early? by DefenderThree · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hate to be a buzzkill, but I think it's too early to start praising the success of the XOs just yet. Kids love new things, especially things that look like toys. It's no surprise that they're getting so much attention right now, especially since they just came in. Let's see a story in a few months or so about the Peruvian XOs and their educational benefits once the novelty wears off and the laptops start having problems that the kids will have to fix.

    1. Re:Too early? by HaloZero · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And in this we'll see the XO version of a 'geek' - the power user who is more apt at correcting an outstanding issue with the OLPC than his or her peers. He has a problem, and it's fixed. His buddy has the same problem. 'Hey, let me look at that for you.' Fixed. Social skills on the up-and-coming, hopefully more successful than the rest of us.

      Christmas eve and I'm in the office. What a fucking loser.

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    2. Re:Too early? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Let's see a story in a few months or so about the Peruvian XOs and their educational benefits once the novelty wears off and the laptops start having problems that the kids will have to fix.
      From the article you didn't read...

      50 primary school children got machines from the One Laptop Per Child project six months ago.
      And...

      For every 100 units it will distribute to students, Peru is buying one extra for parts. But there is no tech support program. Students and teachers will have to do it. "What you want is for the kids to do the repairs," said Negroponte, who believes such tinkering is itself a valuable lesson. "I think the kids can repair 95 percent of the laptops."
      Like most computers these days, looks like repairs are "remove and replace".
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    3. Re:Too early? by DrSkwid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      One interesting feature of Mumbai life I recently witnessed is the pavement mobile phone fixing shop; soldering iron, some manuals, a few broken phones and it's a working handset from a box of scrap.

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    4. Re:Too early? by hey! · · Score: 3, Insightful

      One interesting feature of Mumbai life I recently witnessed is the pavement mobile phone fixing shop; soldering iron, some manuals, a few broken phones and it's a working handset from a box of scrap.


      Child's play, really, for the country that produced Srinivasa Ramanujan.

      The most exciting thing about this project is the number of potential geniuses in the world who heretofore have had little or no access, or only one way access to information.
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    5. Re:Too early? by ConanG · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I made a visit to Africa on a U.S. Aid ship this year. One of the microwaves died during the voyage (wasn't a fuse, I checked). I was up there waiting for a shipmate so we could go out and get a drink. As soon as we pulled in, the cook dropped the microwave off at the gangway for one of the apprentices to throw out. Before he took five steps, one of the Benin dock workers asked for it and he sold it for I think five dollars.

      We thought I had seen the last of that microwave, but I was wrong. Shortly after, my buddy and I caught a taxi and after a harrowing ride through the city, we ended up at a cool little bar. A few minutes after we got to the bar, a moped vroomed up the street and stopped at the place next to the bar (we were outdoors). The guy on the moped had our microwave! An old lady came out, took it from the guy, and proceeded to disassemble it on an old wooden table about ten feet from us. I wasn't paying too much attention to her, but she had it put back together and working in under 15 minutes.

      The guy took it back from her, walked next door to the bar we were at, and sold it to the owner for $20! The guy who bought it from the cook said he made double his pay that day by skipping out of work and getting it fixed.

      I guess, "one man's junk is another man's treasure" is really true....

  5. A nice rebuttal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some mean spirited folks have been praying the OLPC is a disaster. Yes the OLPC has competition now from Intel and ASUS, but those programs wouldn't have existed without the OLPC. I hope in years to come OLPC is a huge success. Negroponte deserves karma for trying something that can help many lives. The naysayers meanwhile can should back to their Plasma TVs watching American Idol.

  6. OLPC and Universal Health Care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most of the talk on tech sites has focused on Microsoft trying to stuff their unwanted OS onto the laptop and getting the hardware specs increased to handle their OS, but there is a strange and sad reaction that I see to the laptop that mirrors the reaction to universal health care:

    Poor people are supposed to be poor.

    You can't have winners in life when there are no losers. Poor people are supposed to be sitting around in filth like Michael Palin in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. And poor people are supposed to sit around in public hospitals for hours waiting for substandard care and dying early. That's their job in life.

    How can a white middle to upper class American feel smug about themselves when poor people are getting the same care as they are and have access to information technology to better their lot in life?

    1. Re:OLPC and Universal Health Care by chatgris · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > How can a white middle to upper class American feel smug about themselves when poor people are getting the same care as they are and have access to information technology to better their lot in life?

      They can't when they might work hard to earn their better care and technology, and others just think they are entitled to it because they are poor. I scrimp and save every penny to put myself through school, without any government assistance or student loans. I don't smoke or drink. The "poor" students at my university, who go out to pubs a couple times a week and smoke, put spare time into volunteering, then complain about being too poor to pay for education, expect taxpayers (like myself) to fund their lifestyles for them.

      I agree it's a whole different ballgame in Africa. But on a domestic scale, when I do without to save up so that I can get something better, it doesn't automatically mean that I should subsidize those who spend all of their disposable income, or subsidize those who think that us "nerds" are stupid for all of our hard work when they regularly go out and party.

      I don't have a social life, I work very hard to look after myself, save diligently, and as such I am well off financially as compared to my peers. Now I should just give my money to others?

      And yes, I'm white and male. I apologise, because it seems lately that it's something I should be ashamed of. Even though I started off with less than most of my peers.

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    2. Re:OLPC and Universal Health Care by Cal+Paterson · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You can't have winners in life when there are no losers.
      You really, really need to learn some economic theory. To put it bluntly and briefly: one party does not have to lose in order for another to win. Go read Adam Smith.
  7. es:Pesca by tepples · · Score: 5, Insightful

    i'd like to see how fishing is done with a laptop
    1. Read articles about fishing in Spanish Wikipedia.
    2. Explore the articles' references.
    3. Teach yourself to fish.
    4. Catch fish.
    5. Sell fish.
    6. PROFIT!
    Am I missing a step???
    1. Re:es:Pesca by autophile · · Score: 2, Funny

      5. Sell fish.
      6. PROFIT!

      Am I missing a step???

      5 1/2. ????

      Your Slashdot card is hereby revoked.

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  8. Having visited Arahuay in October. by jg · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Carla Gomez's trip report had prepared me intellectually for what I would find when I visited in mid-October, but nothing can really convey the emotional impact. Here are some of the notes I took talking with the teachers. This was about 4-5 months after the trial started, using our B2 systems which were much slower and much inferior software. Sometime, maybe I'll have a few minutes to blog about it.

    Impact on students and teachers in Arahuay

    I took as complete notes as I could talking with each of the teachers in turn (unfortunately, I forgot to get their names); translation slowed things enough that I believe the notes are pretty complete, though it may have also introduced errors. They echo Carla's excellent report, but are now months later:

    Two children have come to the Arahuay school specifically because of the laptops who would not have previously attended.

    The children are sharing much more: they take pictures and videos and share them.

    The children are teachers too.

    The teachers see much improved conduct. One child (who often arrives hungry) who has been sad and aggressive now loves to work on the OLPC. He is working more with other children and his behavior has improved.

    One of the children has vision problems; is cross eyed and has one damaged eye (Carla will remember the child, I'm sure). Using the laptop has improved the child's ability to focus her eyes and work.

    Another teacher noted that small children, ages 6-7, are learning much faster. The web browser is the most popular/important activity, followed by the camera.

    The activities they use most are the browser, paint, calculator, write.

    The children use the internet to find information of interest.

    One child, who is from Lima, has learned much in Arahuay and is very happy about the OLPC.

    Another teacher said the children have changed: they have more concentration, mental ability.

    The children's concept reception is much better than before. Despite the use of US keyboards (all we had at the time), the children have had little problem adapting, and have figured out all they keys.

    A third teacher said the internet is the most interesting.

    The children are showing more abilities, are more creative, their behavior is better.

    The children were selfish about the computers at first, but now share and discover with them, showing the teachers and other students what they have discovered.

    Children who had previously been interested in power (bully?) have forgotten power and are sharing.

    The children are showing better attention and organization.

    Students are learning about the world, and now feel part of it. They are now interested in learning other languages, which they had not wanted to do before. Creating a web site on Arahuay has made them feel part of the world. Impact on the teachers:

    They have started to research topics on the internet and have practiced to use the computer.

    The teachers have more ways to plan and improve the class.

    Another teacher said the computer was wonderful for her. Information on the internet had improved both her and the children.

    Their jobs are easier now.

    One of the teachers asked for mind-mapper software, which they have used. We should install freemind on the servers and explore how feasible it is for packaging as an activity (it is Java based).

    But the high point was the eight year old girl who came up to me shyly and gave me a kiss....

    BTW, if anyone speaks Quechua or Aymara (or other languages), please help at: https://dev.laptop.org/translate/.

    Please come help!

    - Jim Gettys, OLPC

    1. Re:Having visited Arahuay in October. by fv · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Thanks for the notes, and I'm delighted to hear about the successes that OLPC is having (even if you haven't yet met your initial distribution goals). It is great to read articles like this one about improving the lives of thousands of kids in Peru.

      Given the network capabilities of this machine, we are working to ensure that the Nmap Security Scanner continues to work well on the OLPC. Maybe someday it can be included, though that raises the issue of kids using it responsibly. Still, it can be quite useful for debugging network connectivity issues as well as testing that their own machines are secure. A side effect of this work is that keeps Nmap lean and working well on low-resource PCs, phones, and PDAs besides the OLPC.

      On Friday we received the three units we ordered through give-one-get-one and I've been playing with mine ever since! Yesterday I took and posted a bunch of pictures of the device.

      Keep up the good work!
      Fyodor

  9. Who would thought I was sentimental? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, it's almost enough to make an old geek cry, imagining these kids learning about computers and becoming proto-geeks, who otherwise might have lived their entire lives without ever seeing a laptop or using the internet.

  10. Re:I'm sure technology helps, but... by Catbeller · · Score: 3, Informative

    A communication link is not a toy. They can learn to read and write and pledge allegiance to their flag, but they previously only could learn what was fed to them. Now they can read EVERYthing. They don't need no, education... Not going to be a comfortable century for the Catholic Church and government censors.

  11. Well, coward, I agree with the OP by WindBourne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The reason is that our press really is worthless now. They are VERY afraid of taking on the corruption within our gov. In particular, Sibel Edmunds has offered up all the info about the American Govs. interaction with Turkey, Afghanastan, pakastan, etc. So far, it has been shown that a number of congressman, and white house folks have taken money from Turkey. It supposedly includes, Delay, Rove, Cheney, Bush, Reid, etc. The problem is that W. and the DOJ have tied up Edmunds and prevents her from talking about it, or she will go to jail. She has OFFERED a 1 time deal to any major press of talking live about the issues. Why? Because she knows that she will do time after that, until the next president comes in. Edmunds would disappear (most likely to one of our off shore spots, and not the nice one at gitmo that was built for the press).

    So, yes, the press in Peru were willing to report even when it meant their death, while NONE of the current American media is willing to simply broadcast Edmunds. They would not even be killed for it. IOW, our current American press is like you; a total coward. Oh, and Faux news does not even count as news. It is more akin to Pravda, than it is to any of the major news channel.

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  12. Re:I'm sure technology helps, but... by palegray.net · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I completely agree with the sentiment of your post. If I had to make up a short list of things Peru might need to better their educational system, it might include such novelties as:

    * More teachers.

    * Better educated teachers.

    * Better teaching facilities (nice laptop, too bad you don't have a desk).

    * Improved teaching materials (textbooks from 1843 don't really cut it, although good books don't have to be this year's edition, either).

    I could always be wrong, but I don't think I am. Sadly, the short list above describes what's also needed in many inner-city school systems in the United States. Ever visited a public high school in south Atlanta? They probably need as much help as some third-world nations.

  13. XO display vs. e-ink by mbrubeck · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The XO screen has a 200dpi grayscale reflective mode that's a lot like e-ink. Comparing my XO to my friend's Kindle, the XO has lower contrast but much higher resolution. Both are quite easy on the eyes.

    1. Re:XO display vs. e-ink by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I was impressed too. The first time I installed and fired up emacs, it popped up with this impossibly tiny text. I leaned in really close, and lo and behold, the text was perfectly sharp.

      This little guy just blows me away.

      Nah, I couldn't wait for Christmas.

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  14. Re:I'm sure technology helps, but... by emilng · · Score: 3, Informative

    What a sad cynical viewpoint you have.
    Who are you to say what the educational needs of "these people" are?
    Should they only be taught the skills they need to stay poor as another poster put it?
    The goal of the OLPC and any good education program should not be to somehow inject students with information in the hope that they learn something but to enable them to discover the joys of learning on their own.

    I think this is a great program because it mirrors my own early interest in computers. We were using the Commodore Pet computers in the computer lab in elementary school. Even with the primitive cassette tape drives and monochrome green monitors of the day it was enough to inspire me to want to have a computer of my own more than anything else in the world. Now did I NEED to have a computer? I don't think so. But as someone reading a site proclaiming "News for nerds, stuff that matters" the need to worship technology goes hand in hand with knowledge. Without a computer at that age I probably wouldn't have had the exposure to the immense amount of knowledge that pushed me in the direction that led me to become a professional developer.

    With the OLPC which you called a "little toy," students can shoot photos, make movies, draw, create music and even learn to program. Given these opportunities that they wouldn't normally have I think there is a much better chance of the students growing beyond where they would be with only being taught the bare minimum basic education.

  15. What is the impact on education? by supersat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While I'm a fan of the OLPC project (I'm writing this on my own XO laptop), and think it has the potential to improve education dramatically, the article didn't say much about how the laptop has affected learning. Sure, the kids love them, but aside from mentioning that many of them aspire to be something other than farmers, there wasn't much evidence presented that the laptop improved education.

  16. Full report by Carla Gomez, with pictures by kbahey · · Score: 4, Informative

    Elsewhere in this thread, you will find a comment by jg (Jim Gettys). It has many things that at first I believed to be exaggerations, or just a glowing review from an OLPC staffer.

    But, I found that all of what he said is present in detail, and pictures, on Carla Gomez's OLPC in Arahuay.

    Really eye opening. Keep up the good work all.

  17. Re:So get this by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My kid wants a OLPC. But you can't just buy one. My kid isn't a good, African kid, she's a bad, American kid.

    Your 'American kid' has far more resources to draw on that the target audience of these laptops. You, the dad, has the resources and ability to basically build her a laptop for cheap. You already have a 24/7 internet connection, ready for this laptop to connect to. She has PC's in school...all her friends (and their parent) have PC's at home. She can very easily go to the local library to use the computers there. If you work in any medium size company, you can probably scam an older laptop for free (I have 3 such laying around).

    You popping for a brand new, dual core, multi gigbyte HD laptop for under $600 is far less of a financial impact than an OLPC would be for any of the target audience.
    Or...you popping for a $399 OLPC (and a tax deduction of $200) is far less of a financial hit as well.

    Should we also be bitching because the 'good African kids' also get free rice and 'bad American kids' don't? Or that 'good African kids' get a well dug in their town by the Peace Corps, and YOU, the downtrodden, poor American, has to actually pay taxes for clean, filtered, unlimited, water delivered to the multiple taps in your house at any temperature you desire.

    Oh...and if you happen to come across a cheap/free laptop, you (Mr. computer wizard) can install the OLPC image on it and your daughter can have almost exactly the same thing. (unfortunately, that image is outdated. I hope they publish a current one soon)

    Quit yer bitching.

  18. You're missing a step. by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Am I missing a step??? Yes.

    0. Roll out universal Internet connections to remote Andean villages.

    Or did you think that internet connectivity was just a given. A bit of a "let them eat cake" moment there. Though yes you should be able to get a fair amount of information on the 800Mb of internal storage. I assume they come with a load of books pre installed.
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  19. Re:I'm sure technology helps, but... by rcw-home · · Score: 3, Insightful

    nice laptop, too bad you don't have a desk

    Looking back on grade school, having a desk and no laptop, no Internet...

    ...man that sucked.

  20. Re:I bet its a hit by atamido · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But these kids aren't starving or dying off due to some easily treatable disease. Really, giving them $188 in food and medicine wouldn't help them that much, and would be pretty limited in the length of time it did help.

    Providing the OLPC is something like providing a basic infrastructure like roads or water, except in this case it is information. Money for these things could always be spent in other ways to meet short term needs, but they are far better off investing in infrastructure that will have long term positive impacts for many years to come.

  21. Re:eBay by xenocide2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just imagine what'll happen when they learn to send email!

    OLPC: Training the next generation of Nig 419 Scammers ;)

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  22. Re:Call me Scrooge but... by servognome · · Score: 3, Informative

    Myself, I intend to forbid my kids from going outside and kicking balls. I don't want them to grow up to be jocks.
    Or physically fit.
    Going outside and kicking a ball isn't necessarily about going on the fast track to sports stardom. Just like being on a computer can teach a child a variety of skills, going outside and kicking a ball around can also do the same.
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  23. Re:Hello in Peru! by DrJimbo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Feeling a tad defensive? The person you're responding to never mentioned communism, or Peru.

    Title of Summary: OLPC a Hit in Remote Peruvian Village

    Title of OP: A shining path to success...

    The first result of Google(shining path) is Wikipedia(Shining Path) which begins:

    The Communist Party of Peru (Spanish: Partido Comunista del Perú), more commonly known as the Shining Path (Sendero Luminoso), is a Maoist guerrilla organization in Peru that launched the internal conflict in Peru in 1980.

    Perhaps when OLPC is complete, Negroponte should start OLP/.er.

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