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Research Finds Effects of GSM Signals on Sleep

An anonymous reader writes "The effects of mobile phone radiation on sleep were studied in Sweden in a laboratory experiment where subjects were exposed either to 884 MHz GSM radiation or placebo. The study finds that compared to placebo, in the radiation-exposed subjects there was a prolonged latency to reach the first cycle of deep sleep (stage 3). The amount of stage 4 sleep was also decreased. Moreover, participants that otherwise have no self-reported symptoms related to mobile phone use, appear to have more headaches during actual radiofrequency exposure as compared to sham exposure."

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  1. What placebo? by east+coast · · Score: 5, Funny

    where subjects were exposed either to 884 MHz GSM radiation or placebo.

    Did they give them one of those plastic phones filled with Pez candies?

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    1. Re:What placebo? by Harold+Halloway · · Score: 5, Funny

      where subjects were exposed either to 884 MHz GSM radiation or placebo.

      Did they give them one of those plastic phones filled with Pez candies? No, an iPhone. *ducks*
  2. Already knew this... by Manip · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well to an extent I did. I've been out in the middle of nowhere to the extent that you couldn't get a cell phone signal if your life depended on it (and sometimes it does!) and there is an odd sense of quiet.

    I know it sounds nuts but on a windy night even with the trees moving it still seems more quiet but in an almost impossible to define way. Like there is something that you can't put your finger on NOT there.

    I always thought it might be either radio singles or high pitch EM radiation from all the fun toys I have around it (yes, including a Wireless Router). So I'm not complaining, and I can sleep fine, but at the same time this study doesn't shock me at all.

    1. Re:Already knew this... by torkus · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually you're "missing" background noise that you're otherwise used to hearing and don't notice.

      For example, I live fairly close to a major highway and have for nearly the past 10 years. In the middle of that I spent a couple months living with my parents who are a mile or two from a highway that's not quite as busy (we're still in lower NY so "busy" is relative). The first morning I got up and tip-toed to the bathroom because it was SOOO quiet there.

      My point: You were "missing" the noise of a zillion cars, airplanes, garbage trucks, air conditioners, trains, computer fans and hard drives, and what have you. The brain gets used to it and if that noise disappears you feel like something is missing or wrong. I highly doubt this has anything to do with RF waves in your case.

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    2. Re:Already knew this... by T-Bone-T · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Maybe it is quiet because there is nothing around. Since there is nothing around, why waste money on cell coverage in an area that will see, at most, minimal use? It isn't the gadgets so much as the millions of cars and jets around every major city. I live a few miles away from a city of 100,000 and I can actually hear the rumble of the city.

    3. Re:Already knew this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't discount that the absence of HFO is good, but that quieter than quiet feeling that you are describing is probably due to air pressure.

      Also, there are probably less hard reflective objects bouncing noise around, and more humidity in the air.

      Regarding the article, kinda, I always de-tune access points in homes - especially where kids are living - to an appropriate signal strength for the site. This is easily done with a laptop and quick site survey. You don't need to have 100% signal strength all the time. Better than 75% at the furthest edge of the house is fine.

      My favorite AP is the venerable Linksys WRT with a custom firmware load, because you can tune the signal strength down (or up) as appropriate for the application. It comes stock set at 28mW; typical setting in homes is 7mW. I believe cell phone power is significantly lower.

      Turning down the power on RF devices seems to me like common sense, as well as polite use of spectrum.

    4. Re:Already knew this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      There are *plenty* of solutions to this barking dog problem that do not involve subjecting yourself to such ongoing discomfort. Obviously, he should set the dog on fire.

    5. Re:Already knew this... by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 3, Funny

      I am sad to note that raisins and grapes apparently are toxic to dogs and can cause acute renal failure even in limited amounts. Dogs are also lactose intolerant, and chocolate is not good for them either. Rat poison attracts dogs and tastes good to them, but has terrible effects. Unfortunately these awful substances are completely legal to possess, even if mixed with foods such as dog treats. I also note that in college, we used to use surgical-tubing slingshots to hurl things from a distance. Not that that's relevant in any way.

  3. Experiment looks doubtful. by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 4, Insightful
    They exposed the subjects to 1.4W/kg? What the **** does that mean? Do they have any idea how deep GSM band signals penetrate human flesh and bone? Did they take out and weigh the left hemisphere of the subjects? Did they use the body weight instead? Did they offer some subjects a tiger-team-style $100 if they could tell the difference between RF and no RF on? Was this a double-blind experiment? People are really clever at catching on to subtle clues like experimenter's face, little clicks, dimming lights, etc. The literature is replete with poorly designed experiments.

    These are just a few of the questions that pop up in any thorough analysis of this experiment.

    1. Re:Experiment looks doubtful. by trolltalk.com · · Score: 5, Funny

      "people are really clever at catching on to subtle clues like experimenter's face"

      They must be REALLY clever to be able to do that in their sleep.

    2. Re:Experiment looks doubtful. by kebes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The full research article (PDF) is only 3 pages long. The experimental description and discussion of results are so terse that they are barely informative. There are not enough details to know whether they handled the experiment properly or not.

      In addition to the problems you mentioned, I'm worried by the fact that they don't describe in detail what they mean by "placebo." For instance, they mention "two separate rooms" in their experimental section, but don't explain why they have two rooms; if one was "real" and the other "placebo" then the variability could easily be ascribed to minor variations in the rooms (lighting, ambient sound, odor, etc.). The RF transmitter is placed immediately beside the person's head (there is a photo in the article), which worries me because they never mention measuring or accounting for audio effects: a high-pitched whine from a running device could easily explain the differences (it wouldn't even have to be consciously audible to influence the subjects).

      Combined with the very large standard-deviations on their results, I'm hesitant to ascribe any significance to this finding just yet. More details, and corroborating independent verification, are definitely necessary before raising any public alarms.

    3. Re:Experiment looks doubtful. by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's also the publishing effect - namely, articles reporting the effect of cell phone radiation upon some biological system X is so popular now that many, many researchers are examining it. If 20 people perform a study, and 1 finds a result that's statistically significant at the 95% confidence interval, the 1 study gets published...even though 1 such study out of 20 would find that result from a random system.

      In the end, as a scientist I'm extremely leery of statistical correlation with no mechanism. What is the specific mechanism by which the specified radiation has the claimed effect? This is especially so with the cell phone/cancer studies, which have the very difficult job of claiming that non-ionizing radiation causes cancer. Because I've seen such bad science, I'm very skeptical of the cell phone studies in general.

    4. Re:Experiment looks doubtful. by nguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The experimental description and discussion of results are so terse that they are barely informative. There are not enough details to know whether they handled the experiment properly or not.

      There are almost never enough details in any experimental scientific paper to know whether the experimenters handled the experiment properly or not.

      I'm hesitant to ascribe any significance to this finding just yet

      Of course, this result needs to be reproduced and strengthened; that's often the case with results like this.

      However, your specific objections against this paper are unwarranted: you're basically accusing the researchers of either gross incompetence or scientific fraud, and there is no justification for that.

    5. Re:Experiment looks doubtful. by poopdeville · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why is this rated insightful? Lots of people get headaches when exposed to sunlight. And burns. And heatstroke.

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  4. Banana Phone by Prysorra · · Score: 4, Funny

    Whoever applied that tag needs to die. I hate you. Can't get it out of my HEAD.

  5. Ok, GSM... by techpawn · · Score: 4, Funny

    But what about us CDMA users?

    I don't think we sleep well because we're mostly on Verizon...

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  6. RTFA by nguy · · Score: 5, Informative

    These are just a few of the questions that pop up in any thorough analysis of this experiment.

    A "thorough analysis" of an experiment begins with actually reading the paper!

    The original paper is linked to at the top of the page, in PDF format. You'll find your questions answered there. Basically, the study is carefully controlled.

    If you have some ideological dislike of the results (as you seem to), perhaps you should try to repeat the experiment yourself and present your results. See, reproducing experimental result is another cornerstone of science.

    1. Re:RTFA by kebes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      None of those things need to be in the paper; the presumption in scientific papers is that the authors are familiar with the basic tools and methods of their research area. Unless you have a specific cause to doubt that, you have no justification for questioning their results because they did not include those details. As a practicing scientist, I can honestly say that this isn't how it works.

      Obviously there are innumerable details with respect to running any experiment, so not every detail can be included in a scientific paper. In particular, "common practice" in the field can usually be described in short hand by using the proper terms (and referencing previous work as needed).

      However, no scientist will read a paper and glibly assume that the experimenters "did everything properly" without evidence that this is so (where "evidence" is a combination of reputation, details of procedure, showing raw data, and demonstration that one understands pertinent issues). It is expected (nay, required, for high-quality science) to mention precautions taken, alternate explanations for results, shortcomings in methodology, and so forth. Omitting a critical self-analysis and details of one's procedure makes a paper very suspect. It is the job of the publishing author to convince the community that they are right, and so they must present sufficient evidence (and sufficient experimental detail) to make their case adequately. To do otherwise makes for bad science.

      So, in short, while much knowledge can be presumed when writing technical papers, it is never the overriding presumption in science that everyone is doing science properly. We attack each other's work precisely to keep quality high: and if a paper does not provide sufficient detail to back up their claims, the paper is ignored until such time that further credible evidence is brought into the debate.
    2. Re:RTFA by Dun+Malg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They say they performed a "double blind controlled laboratory study" (2007 is a continuation of the 2006 work). That excludes all the possibilities you raise. Negative. That's an appeal to authority. It doesn't matter what "they say" they did. Only an enumeration of the steps taken to make the study double blind is enough to exclude anything. If they overlooked something subtle, yet perceptible, then they would still honestly think they were conducting it double-blind, even though the weren't. That is why the results of scientific studies aren't just taken on the studier's word, but based on the published details. Peer review and all that?
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  7. Re:RF placebo? by nguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, it means more than "exposed to nothing"; it means "exposed to nothing, but the subject can't tell".

  8. An average of 1.4 W/kg by Jimmy_B · · Score: 5, Informative

    In the abstract, it mentions that they were exposed to an average of 1.4 W/kg. That's several orders of magnitude more powerful than anything you'd encounter outside the laboratory, which is less than 1W total. Unless you have a kilowatt tower on your nightstand, you have nothing to worry about.

  9. Info on SAR (Watts/kg) by Orgasmatron · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wikipedia

    FCC Page

    1.4 W/kg is close to the FCC limit of 1.6 W/kg. The EU limit is 2.0 W/kg.

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  10. Silly Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have 2 dogs & I was buying a large bag of Pal at Big W and standing inline at the check out.

    A woman behind me asked if I had a dog.

    On impulse, I told her that no, I was starting The Pal Diet again although I probably shouldn't because I'd ended up in the hospital last time, but that I'd lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care ward with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IV's in both arms.

    I told her that it was essentially a perfect diet and that the way that it works is to load your pants pockets with Pal nuggets and simply eat one or two every time you feel hungry & that the food is nutritionally complete so I was going to try it again.

    I have to mention here that practically everyone in the line was by now enthralled with my story, particularly a guy who was behind her.

    Horrified, she asked if I'd ended up in the hospital in that condition because I had been poisoned. I told her no; it was because I'd been sitting in the street licking my balls and a car hit me.

    I thought one guy was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard as he staggered out the door.

    Stupid b*tch...why else would I buy dog food??

    1. Re:Silly Question by FredMenace · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think you have encountered a phenomenon that some people find very mysterious. It is usually referred to, by those who profess to understand its meaning, as a "conversation starter".

    2. Re:Silly Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      A woman behind me asked if I had a dog. As FredMenace said, this is indicative of someone wanting to start a conversation with you. This is also known as "making the first move", which is common when a woman finds you attractive and wants to let you know. It can lead to relationships.

      So congratulations - your funny story saved you from sex!
  11. Re:they might be on to something here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You "have occasionally slept with my phone under my pillow to use as an alarm" and "did NOT sleep as well."

    I've noticed I don't sleep as well when I have a small brick under my pillow. Especially if I think it might ring.

  12. Re:they might be on to something here... by plover · · Score: 4, Interesting
    There could be any of a dozen causes keeping you up:
    • If you don't normally use an alarm clock but a specific need for one to wake up for a specific event, you were possibly preoccupied with the next day's event.
    • You may have had an uncomfortably strange lump under your pillow.
    • Were you at home, or on the road or in a hotel? Most people sleep "differently" when not in their own bed.
    • Does your phone emit an ultrasonic whine?
    • You might subconsciously be worried about the RF you believe you are exposing yourself to.
    • If you had a hand beneath the pillow while you slept, it might have made contact with the unfamiliar texture of the phone.
    There are a lot of very plausible reasons that don't involve a two-second-handshake-pulse-every-9-minutes, emitting a maximum of 600mW of RF energy near your head.

    You could try your own experiment -- have someone randomly set your phone to either "airplane mode" or "regular mode" while you continue to use it as an alarm clock. In the morning they'd have to restore your phone to regular mode so you wouldn't know which way you slept with it. They would record their settings while you recorded your sleep patterns. After a month or so, correlate the two and figure out if RF made any difference in your sleep.

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  13. Re:Exposure levels of 1.4W/kg? by autocracy · · Score: 3, Informative

    That number is the "Specific Absorption Rate." Google it, and you'll get the very basic idea (wiki article is kinda useless). Cell phone handsets are regulated to 1.6W/kg in the US, 2W/kg in the EU. Anyway, a quick check of Nokia models shows a maximum exposure typically under .5W/kg, with variations per model (8800, .5; N-Gage, .35).

    The iPhone, however, is a screaming .97W/kg ;)

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  14. Re:Wow high frequency radio waves are harmful! by PitaBred · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think he responds faster if you call him "Captain", rather than "Capitan"

    </obvious>

  15. Hey! Psuedoscience? by Vegeta99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why is this tagged psuedoscience?

    Here's a layman's synopsis:

    1. 36 women and 35 men were selected for a study, and were checked by physicians to make sure that they didn't have any /other/ conditions that would, well, cause them to have trouble sleeping.

    2. They were then classified into two groups. One, that said they could "detect" the effects of RF radiation, and another that said they could not.

    3. The group as a whole was divided into two groups, both to be strapped into the "RF Machine", however, the machine would only be on for the "RF" group, not the placebo group.

    4. The study reveals a statistically significant reduction in the time that it takes for one to reach deep sleep (1/3 of an hour for those exposed, 1/4 hour for those not exposed), and that Stage 4 sleep time is also reduced (37.2 min vs 45.5 mins respectively).

    5. The study also says that /preliminary/ results show that those who SAID they could detect symptoms of RF exposure had increased headaches during exposure than those that did NOT say they could detect the symptoms of RF exposure. However, it does not give a statistical analysis.

    Remember, this is labelled a "provocation study" that is "We're trying to narrow this down, now pick us apart." It even says that in the Discussion!

  16. Re:"sham" by Idarubicin · · Score: 3, Informative

    SHAM

    That's what they call the 'non-RF' exposure tests. No, they're not biased from the start.

    While I'm seldom one to flame, you're certainly made yourself look like a right fool to anyone who knows anything about designing a properly controlled and blinded study.

    'Sham' treatment, 'mock' treatment, 'placebo' treatment are all synonyms widely used in the scientific literature to describe non-functional imitation treatments given in a blinded (or much better, double-blinded) study. It's called a 'sham' treatment because that's what it is--a fake. A knockoff. Looks the same, but doesn't do anything. The term isn't prejudicial or pejorative; it's only descriptive. Fire up PubMed and you'll find nearly forty thousand scientific papers that use the term 'sham' in their title or abstract. (For comparison, about a hundred thousand use the word 'placebo'.)

    I have no comment on whether or not they've done their study correctly. A number of other posters here have identified a number of potential flaws and pitfalls in their methodology. I agree completely that they present insufficient amounts of their raw data. Nevertheless, concluding that they are biased based on the fact that they correctly use scientific jargon seems...careless. Idiot.

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  17. Re:i'm safe from this effect by Idarubicin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    a microwave oven emits less radiation density then the amounts used in this study

    Er, I think you lost a decimal place (or three) there, friend.

    Figure a 1000 watt microwave oven with 1 kg (about 2 pounds) of ground beef defrosting. The bulk of the microwaves emitted are absorbed by the food, giving a SAR (specific absorption rate) of 1000 watts per kilogram (W/kg). The average mass of a human head, meanwhile, is about 5 kg; that makes an SAR of 200 W/kg.

    The SAR used in this study was an average of 1.4 W/kg. This low level results in minimal local heating, particularly in a well-perfused part of the body like the brain (lots of blood flowing through equals lots of capacity to draw off excess heat to the rest of the body.) On the other hand, if you were to stick your head in the microwave (after jimmying the safety interlocks) I guarantee that you would find the level of local heating to be...uncomfortable.

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  18. Re:RF placebo? by FuzzyDaddy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Actually, "exposed to nothing, but neither the subject nor the test administrator can tell"

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  19. Re:So are the tin-foil hat people right? by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 3, Funny
    WHAT! "Don't attempt to lift a running lawn mower with your hands"

    How else am I supposed to mow my hedges? It's a time honored technique handed down from grandpaw lefty and refined by uncle stumpy.

    What could go wrong?

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  20. Re:Wow high frequency radio waves are harmful! by Captain+Nitpick · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think he responds faster if you call him "Captain", rather than "Capitan"

    </obvious>

    Just don't call him "Catpain". I hear he hates that almost as much as I do.

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  21. Re:RF placebo? by GooberToo · · Score: 3, Informative

    nor the test administrator can tell

    Only if they said it was a double blind study. Otherwise, the administrator likely knew which were placebo patients. A placebo by it self does not imply ignorance of all parties involved.

  22. Re:RF placebo? by Smallpond · · Score: 4, Informative

    It was double-blind. According to the full article, the change in sleep onset went from 0.27 hours (sham) to 0.37 hours (actual RF). And the duration dropped from 45.5 minutes (sham) to 37.2 minutes (actual RF). No idea why they changed units, but I was always taught to ignore effects smaller than 2:1 in small sample sizes. Most likely a candidate for the JIR.