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What Did You Change Your Mind About in 2007?

chrisd writes "The Edge 2008 question (with answers) is in. This year, the question is: 'What did you change your mind about and why?'. Answers are featured from scientists as diverse as Richard Dawkins, Simon Baron-Cohen, George Church, David Brin, J. Craig Venter and the Astronomer Royal, Lord Martin Rees, among others. Very interesting to read. For instance, Stewart Brand writes that he now realizes that 'Good old stuff sucks' and Sam Harris has decided that 'Mother Nature is Not Our Friend.' What did Slashdot readers change their minds about in 2007?"

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  1. The price of oil is still too cheap by Ranger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know everyone is complaining that oil and gas is way too expensive. They are wrong. I used to think the same way. I saw a nice chart showing gasoline prices adjusted for inflation over a period of about eighty years. You know what? It really hasn't changed that much. It was still higher in 1981 than it is now. What has changed is a decrease in our earning power.

    Proof that gasoline is still too cheap: I still see tons of Hummers, Expeditions, Navigators, Armadas, Sequoias and other mondo SUVs (aka Urban Assault Vehicles) on the road.

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    1. Re:The price of oil is still too cheap by AhtirTano · · Score: 4, Insightful
      A couple interesting observations about those charts.
      1. From 1947-1977 (the first half covered) the mean household income (adjusted for inflation) goes from $26,322 to $51,925. That's almost double the household income. From 1978-2005 (the second half), it goes from $54,764 to $73,304. That's a little more than a 1/3 increase. So the rate at which our income is increasing has dropped drastically.
      2. The further back along the time-line you go, the fewer two income households there are. So the doubling of earning power in the first 30 years of the chart was decreasingly accomplished by single individuals making more. The lesser increase in earning power in the second half is increasingly accomplished by pairs.
  2. Re:I like Harris' line ... by wizardforce · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who are you blaming after all? What is mother nature? I just can't wrap my head around the entity that is blamed here? Are you blaming earth for being so imperfect with all the volcanoes and earthquakes? Are you blaming yourself for continuously degrading the environment thus making it harder for you to live?

    you... need to go outside more.. mother nature she "loves" you, specifically she loves to attempt to kill you at every chance she gets, that's why we develop technology to enforce the restraining order against her.
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  3. That politicians / legislative bodies ... by HW_Hack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    can effect any type of meaningful change.

    Healthcare reform, acting on global warming, tax reform, ending a meaningless war, supporting the middle class, fighting terrorism at its roots ( in the Madrases ) and local Muslim populations (versus invading random countries like Iraq or Iran), energy independence ........ on and on

    Since a teenager I've been at least tuned into the issues / politics - and would get wrapped up with one candidate or another .... now in my 50's I see that this just a bunch of horse-shit. I'll still vote (as I have since I turned 18) .... but to invest any time, money, or emotion in the political process ----- fuck that shit.

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  4. Re:I like Harris' line ... by canadian_right · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Mother Nature", AKA the natural laws of the universe, doesn't care about us one way or the other. Mother Nature isn't even aware we exists as Mother Nature is NOT aware of anything. Attributing awareness to 'mother nature' is irrational.

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  5. Offshoring is a non-solution to a non-problem. by sethstorm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    An additional benefit is that it has a rather sobering effect on local know-it-all's when they see that their work is in fact inferior to what we can get from a third world sourcing partner. Exception, not rule. The locals will end up cleaning after the large amounts of mistakes.

    It has a disciplining effect on the entire organization since the punishment for immaturity is harsh and tangible.

    After this sort of ego bruising they are more ready to accept modern and mature practices. Play $DEITY somewhere else, not with workers. If one has to add fear (by offshoring) over their heads to drive a point, something is terribly wrong.

    You're part of what makes people hate offshoring, you use it for fear, and not productivity.
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  6. And of course.. theyre also willing to accept.. by plasmacutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    well, not willing to, more like "forced to" accept triple the workload they used to, resulting in fatigue around which an entire industry of pharmaceuticals arose to keep them up with stims rather than labor regulations to keep offshoring down so they can live healthy lives which involve rest and the possibility of actually speaking with and raising their kids.

    and of course they have to accept the erosion of their middle class status to the point they will never ever retire and can't ever afford a house.. "as the rents go up, and job opportunities go down"

    yes i'm sure our descent into third world status will "only" harm the "immature"

    and where do you get off declaring what is and is not mature? did it ever occur to you that you may be the one who isn't mature. Usually the ones who believe themselves far enough above others to pronounce judgment are themselves the fools.

    But yeah, go ahead and support the destruction of the middle class for your twisted sense of self righteousness regarding other people's maturity.

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    1. Re:And of course.. theyre also willing to accept.. by maeka · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But yeah, go ahead and support the destruction of the middle class for your twisted sense of self righteousness regarding other people's maturity.

      I would argue it is not destroying the middle class, so much as moving the middle class.
      Welcome to the global economy.
      There is going to be a painful transition period while the former third world achieves what they have not had for so long.
      Blame the old status-quo on imperialism, blame it on racism, blame it on whatever you want. Regardless, the world is becoming an increasingly level playing field - finally.

    2. Re:And of course.. theyre also willing to accept.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Someone with nearly 2000 comments on a newer (900,000) era /. account is claiming they don't have any leisure time?

    3. Re:And of course.. theyre also willing to accept.. by R2.0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "compare this with 50 years ago when people could come home and kick back, now we are expected to work 18 hour days, 6 of them off the clock thanks to obscene deadlines and quotas."

      No, SOME people could comehome and kick back - the upper-middle and upper class. Lower middle and lower class folks have ALWAYS had to work their asses off, mainly at shit jobs, for long hours and low pay.

      You are pissed because jobs that USED to produce an upper-middle class lifestyle don't do that anymore. Guess what - that kind of stuff happens all the time. Everyone here rails against the **AA's for not recognizing a failing business model, but somehow thinks individuals should be immune from those same rules. Why?

      IT jobs used to be a good path to the upper middle class; now they are not. Same with factory jobs. Welcome to reality.

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  7. Environmentalist and VideoGame Nuts and Linux Fans by Hercules+Peanut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. O.K. I believe in global warming now. I heard a lot of dissenting evidence but it appears to be tainted.

    2. Video Games do affect behavior in many children. Studies and family members in the field of education with years of observational experience have made me switch my opinion. I'm still not a big fan of government intervention on the subject, though.

    3. Linux is ready for the desktop thanks to the EeePC. In fact, much of open source appears to be ready to eliminate the needs or even desire for a commercial alternative. Linux, OpenOffice, Firefox. I no longer feel like I'm having to settle for second rate in order to save money. I'd actually choose them even if the alternatives were free.

    4. Slashdot is moderated largely by hypocritical children who will mod up popular opinion and mod down unpopular posts regardless of accuracy. I predict the slow demise of Slashdot as the comments area, a once fertile land of discussion and intelligent observation becomes a members only arena linux/mac fanboys and video gamers who can't envision anyone else's opinion being right other than theirs. It will be a place where where speaking ill of religion, republicans or windows will be given an automatic +2 informative while speaking ill social web sites, video games, or modding practices will be an auto -2 troll.

    All four are great discoveries and lifestyle changes for me.

    Happy New Year.

  8. What is war good for? by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I was always sympathetic to the idea of bringing liberty to those overseas Which is why that emotionally potent oversimplification was used.
    Not because it applied, but because it would make you agree.

    Why are they killing people? For liberty! We like liberty, so it makes it okay to kill people: it's for something we like!
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  9. I changed my mind on Ron Paul... by rthille · · Score: 5, Insightful


    In early 2007 I thought I might be able to vote for Ron Paul against certain Democrats if it came down to that (unlikely).
    After learning more about Dr. Paul: that he hasn't felt the need to educate himself about the scientific facts about evolution and rejects it, though wasn't willing to raise his hand during the televised debate where the candidates were asked that question; that he calls abortion "Murder"; and, most critically, that he wants to remove the ability of the federal government to intervene in violations of chuch/state separation.
    If the founding fathers got nothing else right with our country, they got the separation of church and state right. Integrating religion and state power is a sure path to tyranny.

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  10. Emotion by otomo_1001 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This will probably be out of place here amongst the /. crowd. But I met the absolutely most beautiful woman on the planet, inside much more so than outside this year. And the whole experience changed me and my mind on the value of emotion in general. I am still dealing with the fallout from realizing I have been an emotional equivalent to a black hole up until now.

    It used to be hard to say stuff like that, even to myself. But not any more, personal growth is always a good thing to achieve. And no she wasn't a girlfriend or anything like that either before anyone asks.

    Oh and tv. It is now almost entirely out of my life, to be replaced by real life things like skydiving and adrenaline rushes. :)

  11. Re:Ron Paul and the war by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Neo-cons have a rather odd view of the world and of the nature of power. They are the political equivalents of the economists of the 1920s; both essentially asserting that the old rules don't apply. In the 1920s everyone assumed that the Capitalist boom-bust cycle was over for good, that it was going to party days forever. The Neo-cons felt the same way about American power after the fall of the USSR, that the US was a hyperpower that could have nearly unlimited global influence. Iraq has demonstrated that the US is no different than Rome was in its day, a mighty military power, but not so mighty that it can't get overextended or get itself into military fiascos that have very direct political consequences.

    The US now faces a 21st century with a rising China (something that clever folks have in fact been predicting for a couple of centuries) and Russia recovering from its wounds and taking back its position as a pre-eminent Old World power. Europe, despite a lot of roadbumps, is making a growing, vibrant political union, and I suspect in the long term it will become a Neo-Rome, controlling the Mediterranean.

    The Neo-cons have weakened the United States at the very moment when it should have been mustering its resources to prepare for the new order. They thought they can short-circuit the historical trends, and by flying the American flag on distant lands and bringing democracy that they would retain uncontested pre-eminence. They seriously misread the reconstruction of Japan and thought that it could be a roadmap for the Middle East, to safeguard oil supplies and put in friendly powers.

    It's time for Americans to start reading their history, to start understanding that the United States is not some blessed land, but is an empire like any, and that it is just as vulnerable as any in history.

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  12. Re:Ron Paul and the war by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Ron Paul being a creationist is completely irrelevant to his ability to be a good president.


    Really? To me it says something very relevant about his ability to reason from facts.


    Religious views have no bearing on one's ability to run the country.


    But creationism isn't just a religious belief, it's also a (fallacious) scientific position. How can a president deal rationally with issues such as biotechnology or global warming when he can't bring himself to accept evolution? It's like hiring an accountant who doesn't believe in negative numbers, and expecting him to do your taxes correctly. Not going to happen.

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