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US Government To Release Electronic Passport

XueCast writes "The federal government has announced that they will release new electronic Passport cards in either April or May 2008. The cards could be read wirelessly from up to 20 feet away, which could reduce the waiting time at border checkpoints. Deputy Assistant Secretary Of State For Passport Services, Ann Barrett said, "As people are approaching a port of inspection, they can show the card to the reader, and by the time they get to the inspector, all the information will have been verified and they can be waved on through.""

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  1. "Waved on through..." by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From TFA:

    "As people are approaching a port of inspection, they can show the card to the reader, and by the time they get to the inspector, all the information will have been verified and they can be waved on through," said Ann Barrett, deputy assistant secretary of state for passport services, commenting on the final rule on passport cards published yesterday in the Federal Register.

    Hahahahaha. You have got to be fucking kidding me. I have been the United States on two separate occasions via air in the last few years and in both cases neither myself nor any of my fellow passengers were ever "waved on through" inspection. Everybody got the royal ass raping treatment and this comment by Ann Barrett is just a bureaucratic pie-in-the-sky sales job for the new passports.

    1. Re:"Waved on through..." by wizardforce · · Score: 4, Insightful
      ya.. spend a few hours in customs and save ten seonds by not having to manually read the passport... efficient use of their resources isn't it?

      but because it's a real pain in the ass being treated like a "suspect" from the minute you drive to an airport until you drive out of one. Now ask me if I think the US is "winning the war on terror"?
      I think we know by now that the "war on terror" isn't going to be decreasing terrorism [it is in fact increasing it] nor is it protecting freedoms or safety, it is in fact eroding freedoms that they never had the right to take away in the first place. sigh... as an American, I hope this never spreads to Canada but judging by recent events, it may indeed happen anyway...
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    2. Re:"Waved on through..." by Swampash · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I just don't travel to the USA any more. It's not worth my time or my dignity. When conferences and business meetings get scheduled, I make sure someone else goes. Inevitably they get back complaining about some jackbooted stormtrooper screaming "PAPERS! PAPERS!" at them, and vow never to go through it again.

    3. Re:"Waved on through..." by phoebusQ · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Sensationalism at its finest.
      I travel internationally to and from the US on a monthly basis and never see any of these "atrocities".

    4. Re:"Waved on through..." by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I travel a lot for my career, and in fact just returned from China with a few colleagues (CES starting in 4 days and all). The grilling I get entering other countries is a LOT less than what my colleagues received entering the US.

      Does the US entry suck? Yes, it does. But in my experience in the last year when I entered Canada (driving across the border at Sumas), China, Japan, Chile, France, the UK, Indonesia and Russia I got a lot more scrutiny and more of the "ass raping treatment" you complain about that what I witnessed today how 3 Chinese nationals were treated on entering the US.

      Guess what - countries LIKE to know and control who's coming into the territories, and if you think the US is unique then you haven't traveled much in the last 5 years...

      But that's OK, it's hip and oh-so-chic to rag on the US. Shows how progressive and enlightened you are!

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  2. OPTIONAL for frequent travelers that want it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How could you leave out this little detail from your story?

    I know the universal ID/RFIDs are legitimate stories, but this card story is non-story turned into a potential page churner ONLY because of the single detail left out of the write-up.

    Shoddy editing job.

  3. Wonderful. by FriendlyPrimate · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh wonderful. Now when I'm overseas, the terrorists can identify me as an American in a crowd from 20 feet away.

    1. Re:Wonderful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I welcome this more as a way to be recognized as NOT an american while travelling without one =)

  4. Re:Ummm. by Amouth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Americans who travel tend to be rich. fixed that for you

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  5. Don't see how it will help with lines by Yath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What nonsense. If they could be "verified" by machine, they wouldn't need to stand in line in the first place. Travelers stand in line for physical inspection and crowd control, and the card can't help with that process. Unless it can count the books of matches in my backpack and measure my lithium battery, all it will do is save a few seconds of pulling out my wallet. Sounds neat, I guess.

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  6. Re:No air travel?! by daveo0331 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It makes a lot more sense if you think of it in terms of total number of trips and not total number of countries. Many major U.S. cities are located along the border (San Diego, Detroit, and Buffalo to name a few). Also, ever been on a cruise? It takes 2-3 hours to get everyone off one of those big cruise ships because of the need to get 2000 people through customs at once. This sounds like it could speed that process up.

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  7. Re:Ummm. by mi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    .70 Euro to the Dollar.

    100+ Yen to the Dollar, yet the Japanese aren't considered particularly poor...

    We yanks aren't so rich any more...

    The ones, who are walking around in Paris, are still quite rich — by the standards of a lowlife robber, anyway.

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  8. Re:Ummm. by Original+Replica · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because the senator's buddies aren't interested in a mark up reselling barcode readers ($80), when they can markup RFID readers.($1700) Besides RFID is so much more tech heavy it's gotta be better. Better security theater that is. Joe Sixpack will be terribly impressed that there is a computer-thingy in his passport.

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  9. Re:No air travel?! by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It makes a lot more sense if you think of it in terms of total number of trips and not total number of countries. ...
    It takes 2-3 hours to get everyone off one of those big cruise ships because of the need to get 2000 people through customs at once. This sounds like it could speed that process up. About as helpful as a band-aid on a sucking chest wound.

    The root cause of the problem isn't the number of people, i'ts the lame-ass system in the first place. It's a lot like DRM. People who want to enter the country for nefarious purposes will always have a variety of methods of entry that completely bypass these systems. But thosewho wish to enter legally have to jump through all the hoops. Essentially it punishes the law-abiding citizens and ignores the law breakers. Sure, the system will occasionally catch someone with a felony conviction in their home country who didn't know that would disqualify them from entry. But chances are, those people weren't up to no good, they were just on a trip like any other regular joe and denying them entry doesn't improve the situation at all.
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  10. Re:No air travel?! by davester666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wouldn't it be almost as fast, and WAY more secure to just have passport 'reading' machines placed before the examiners, where you either swipe or place the passport in the device in some way. That gives the 'system' extra time retrieve any information for the passport examiner, but there is NEVER going to be this mythical 'wave-through'.

    There always has to be a delay for the immigration officer to a) verify that the physical person matches the person described by the passport and b) why they are coming and going and whether to extract money from them [duties or whatever].

    I don't know why governments have such a hard-on for passports and other identifiers [like drivers licenses] to be accessible wirelessly. Hell, they'll still probably swipe it to match the 'wireless data' with the physical card [because did the system read your passport, or the passport for the 20 people around you].

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  11. Re:Ummm. by ContractualObligatio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can you name a single example of an American abroad being killed by terrorists (or by a dude in an alley in Paris) where the motive was the victim being from America, as compared to any wealthy nation?

  12. Re:encryption doesn't matter by BlueStrat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And the Americans, who go through the trouble of trying to disguise themselves, will wrap their passports in foil, or something.

    Who wants to lay odds on the chances of the US government making such "obstruction and/or obfuscation, or possession of such obstruction or obfuscation device(s) or material(s)" at any time by such a passport holder highly illegal? It would follow with the rest of the brain-dead security theater "logic" we've seen so far.

    Cheers!

    Strat

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  13. Re:No air travel?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It takes about 4 seconds for a border officer to process your passport. The reason there are bottlenecks at ports of entry is because there tends to be a maximum of two border agents for every 50 people trying to cross.

    Actually the reason there are bottlenecks is to allow immigration to look for people acting suspiciously. If you weren't forced to queue you wouldn't feel nearly as stressed when travelling on that fake passport.