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UK Moves to Outlaw 'Hacker Tools'

twitter writes "New guidance rules for the UK's controversial Computer Misuse Act do not allay fears of impracticality, or of the banning of legitimate IT software: 'The government has come through with guidelines that address some, but not all, of these concerns about dual-use tools. The guidelines establish that to successfully prosecute the author of a tool it needs to be shown that they intended it to be used to commit computer crime. But the Home Office, despite lobbying, refused to withdraw the distribution offense. This leaves the door open to prosecute people who distribute a tool, such as nmap, that's subsequently abused by hackers.'" Somewhat similar legislation recently became law in Germany.

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  1. Re:IDEs too? by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am so glad you mentioned VS.net...yes this tool can be used to do many "hacker" like things...
    I wonder if we showed the stupid leaders in parliament, this fact, then would they ban microsoft all together for creating such devious tools.... ;P

  2. Outlaw politicans who make stupid laws about tech by Marcion · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From TFA behind the TFA:

    Whilst the law was going through Parliament the Home Office suggested that "likely" would be a 50% test.. Anyway, that guidance is now out -- and there's no mention, surprise, surprise, of "50%"

    If over 50% of the laws they make are nonsense, can we ban the politicians?

  3. Reminds me of the middle ages by pwnies · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is ridiculous. It reminds me of the "Index Librorum Prohibitorum" (Roman Catholic list of banned books). The Roman Catholics banned books because they believed that they could be used as a tool against their power, and not simply for the purpose of knowledge. That's the same thing the UK is trying to do now - they're trying to ban software because it might be able to be used for naughty purposes. Why don't you ban the C programming language while you're at it UK? I hear those buffer overflows could be dangerous.

    Hopefully this mistake won't take 400 year to remedy.

  4. Just for the sake of argument- by llamalad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How about if such tools were only legal for licensed/certified IT and Information Security professionals?

    Yes, this would mean our having to get certified as at least minimally competent at what we do, much like hairdressers and engineers.

    The idea is analogous to how, in New York at least, it's illegal for random people to carry lockpicks.

  5. Thought Tools by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I guess we should just arrest everyone that has a bad thought.

    WIth 'bad' being relative to the administration in charge at the time in said country.

    Will they be outlawing FTP or HTTP as well?

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  6. Re:It's not about security. by 91degrees · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But it is about security! They've decided it's too hard to actually solve crimes and prosecute the old fashioned way, by proving intent to commit a crime.

    Instead they just criminalise the capability to commit a crime. No matter whether there may be a legitimate use for something, or whether there may be enthusiasts who take pleasure from understanding how security works. Of course, they're not going to actually prosecute people who they think probably aren't going to commit a real crime. Just those who probably are but the police aren't capable of proving without some of that pesky "reasonable doubt" stuff getting in the way.

  7. Re:IDEs too? Oh yes, and what about OO Design? by Dog-Cow · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Do you walk around in body armor or with body guards? No? Well, you deserved to be mugged or brutally beaten to death.

    Or maybe your logic just isn't.

  8. Re:IDEs too? Oh yes, and what about OO Design? by Kythe · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Not to detract from a truly excellent comment, but I did want to remark on one thing...

    When people started getting used to the idea of "I have nothing to hide". You do. Everyone does. I have skeletons in my closet, and I want them to stay there.


    I'm not sure most people honestly think they have nothing to hide. They've been trained, however, to think that failure to act like one has nothing to hide will reveal what they have to hide.

    I think it's likely a result of a culture obsessed with cop fantasy shows in which the cops can do pretty much anything they want to solve the crime, justified by depictions of the people the fantasy cops zero in on as nearly always guilty.
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    Kythe