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Hints at the Future of the Xbox 360 Emerge

CES has brought out quite a bit of news, for subjects across the tech industry. The future of the Xbox 360 seems to a subject Microsoft can't talk enough about. Gates' keynote touched on new media partnerships for Live Marketplace, like the collaboration with Disney/ABC. A post-keynote email to several games writers noted that 2008 will be the company's year to capitalize on strong hardware and software sales from the holiday season, and that several as-yet-unannounced exclusive 360 titles are in the works. Fans of the platform might still have some anxiety this year; a rumour on the 1up site indicates Microsoft is already working on a game for the next-next-gen console to bear the Xbox name.

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  1. I Have Seen the Future by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gates plans to market the XBox 360 as an alternative to the OLPC. While the price is not $188 yet, his CEO voodoo math has predicted that by 2010 it will be $188. It will have two straps added to it so that it can be worn like a backpack and come with heads-up display helmets which he bought at reduced cost from Lucas after all of his scenes with clones in Star Wars. Freakish looking shock troopers will poor forth from 3rd world countries and create waves of ultra intelligent Xbox live users chanting for more NASCAR and looking to 'kick some ass.'

    No longer concerned with rice and potable water, they will demand badges and strive to be atop a point ranking system. Several dictators will realize that equipping the outfits with actual weapons and removing the heads up helmets make them perfect mindless warriors with twitch movements that would put Ali to shame.

    All hippie wii players will be destroyed in the great cleansing while PS3 players will live it out safely, unknowingly in their basements.

    After that, the XBox 360 will be useless. Used and marketed in more ways than a Singapore whore, the XBox 360 will shave its head in a desperate cry for attention. Then it will start dropping babies all over the place and release an album with the title track ripping into Gates.

    The XBox 360 will then spend the rest of eternity in the old consoles home with the NeoGeo, TurboGrafix 16 and Jaguar 32 playing pong and solitaire. Visiting hours will be from noon to 5pm Monday-Friday.

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    1. Re:I Have Seen the Future by downix · · Score: 5, Informative

      What in the world is a Jaguar 32?

      **pets his Jaguar 64**

      The Atari 32-bit system was the Panther, get it right.

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    2. Re:I Have Seen the Future by SnarfQuest · · Score: 4, Funny

      It will have two straps added to it so that it can be worn like a backpack

      Will it come complete with a month's supply of burn cream?

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  2. Next-Next-Gen by Some+guy+named+Chris · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please tell me we aren't going to start using the term "next-next-gen".

    Can't we just start calling the current consoles "current gen"?

    1. Re:Next-Next-Gen by mathletics · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Next gen isn't current gen until the current gen dies, and my PS2 is still kicking.

    2. Re:Next-Next-Gen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How about we call it "the successor to the Xbox 360" instead of "the next-next-gen console to bear the Xbox name". See how much easier that is?

    3. Re:Next-Next-Gen by rootofevil · · Score: 2, Informative

      Doesn't change the fact that I now own a Wii.... It's not "next gen" any more, because it's on the market now. They aren't still selling *new* PS2s. Whether games are still being made or not is irrelevant. They aren't still making them, therefore it's not still the current generation.

      sure they are. its just called the pstwo now. big box stores have them for 129.

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    4. Re:Next-Next-Gen by edwdig · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They actually remodeled the PS2 recently. In late November they announced a revision of the slim version that includes the power supply inside the unit.

      I'd take that as a sign that they're still making them.

  3. Let me get this straight... by lutz7755 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft is going to try to continue to market the xbox 360? And write games for it? As well as collaborate with other companies to enhance it's live features?

    This is truly remarkable news.

  4. Re:Bollocks!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wrong! As Sony has informed us previously, next-gen doesn't begin until Sony says so!

  5. Fill in the lineup gaps by Sciros · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The 360 would benefit a bit from filling in gaps that other consoles currently do. Sure, it can't release a "Wii Sports" kind of title but there are certain genres in which it's quite weak and doesn't have to be.

    One is fighting games. These are really popular despite not really having "progressed" much in something like a decade (even more for some subgenres). Don't give fans a sub-par Guilty Gear and a Dead or Alive and leave it at that. Give folks a *solid* 2D fighter. A Smash Bros competitor couldn't hurt, either, since as fantastic as that series is, it's all too easy to improve on.

    Another is JRPGs. Even Americans play these, believe it or not (duh, PS2 RPGs sell brilliantly here after all), and you don't need to be a Japanese developer to whip these up. You just need good art direction and the rest will fall into place assuming the combat system isn't a total disaster. One shoddy attempt with Dragonball Z character design doesn't cut it.

    Thirdly, where are the platformers? We got Kameo early on, but that's it! I know Rare can't be bothered to make many games anymore, but there are certainly other developers that can be asked to do the job.

    The way things are now are good enough for the 360, but I would rather see less of a total saturation of shooters and rubbish racing games and a bit more diversity in the upcoming game lineup.

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    1. Re:Fill in the lineup gaps by dj_tla · · Score: 2, Interesting

      For JRPGs, I would suggest Eternal Sonata. Wonderful music, visuals, and gameplay that JRPG fans will find familiar but still interesting. I haven't finished it, but so far I've been very happy with it.

      Mass Effect is also amazing. It's North American, but I think it still appeals to fans of JRPGs.

      For platformers, The Simpsons Game is surprisingly decent. The real strength of the game is its humourous writing, but platformer fans should similarly find the gameplay familiar but still interesting. Give it a try if you haven't yet.

      I'm not saying that I don't want to see more games in these categories, but there are some already, and they shouldn't be overlooked.

  6. Anxiety? Ummm OK... by Is0m0rph · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Fans of the platform might still have some anxiety this year; a rumour on the 1up site indicates Microsoft is already working on a game for the next-next-gen console to bear the Xbox name." You do know it takes years to develop new hardware right? They don't just produce it overnight. Of course MS as well as Sony and Nintendo are working on their next generation of consoles. It would be stupid of them not to be. Didn't Sony mention working on the PS4 before the PS3 was even released?

  7. Re:Where does it leave the PC? by Erwos · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The low sales of Crysis are troubling. Doom 3 sold very well, and it was equally a system-killer. There is legitimate concern that PC game piracy is reaching epic proportions, enough to actually make game development unprofitable.

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  8. What??? by Itchyeyes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fans of the platform might still have some anxiety this year; a rumour on the 1up site indicates Microsoft is already working on a game for the next-next-gen console to bear the Xbox name.

    Morons might have some anxiety over this. High profile games take years to develop, particularly when they're trying to meet a tentative launch date of a console that doesn't even have firm hardware specs in place.

    The original Xbox was cut short because 1) it was a money losing platform for Microsoft and 2) because Microsoft saw launching before the PS3 as crucial to their success. While Microsoft is still having trouble making the 360 profitable, it's doing significantly better than the original Xbox was. As for #2, Microsoft is in no hurry to beat out the other two machines, which are only a year old right now and probably won't be replaced for at least another 4 years, at which point the 360 would be 6 years old.

    You can practically guarantee that the 360 has, at the very least, 3 more years of life before Microsoft decides to replace it.
    1. Re:What??? by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You can practically guarantee that the 360 has, at the very least, 3 more years of life before Microsoft decides to replace it. I imagine it'll be much longer than 3 years.

      Remember all the fuss when MS launched the Xbox360 and everyone complained that they'd kicked off the next gen of consoles too early just to gain some market share?

      The result has been poorly utilized processing power in the Xbox360 and PS3 because there wasn't enough lead time for developers. I don't think anyone really wants that to happen again.
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    2. Re:What??? by AbRASiON · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually most of us 'hardcore' gamers would still like to see longer periods between consoles.

      It's my firm belief the last generation was cut short by at LEAST a year before it needed to be, the PS2, GC and Xbox all were quite capable of outputting some fairly nice graphics in their final days, also 2 of the 3 had network capability, 2 of them could hold full DVD sized data (9gb) they had digital audio out (in most cases) supported 5.1 audio or pro logic 1 / 2 and all 3 could (in most cases) output via component in progressive scan, infact there was a small selection of high definition games to boot.

      They were close to the end but I'm sure another 12 months, maybe 18 could have been comfortably squeezed out of them.
      The Xbox obviously couldn't for financial reasons, this doesn't change the fact ,...that sucks for us - it was by far the most powerful console and some of it's top end games just looked great
      The PS2 while fairly weak, people figured out, look at Shadow of the Colossus, God of War 2 etc - damn fine looking games
      Gamecube, I don't know much about but I do believe some of the games also looked quite nice.

      The thing is, I don't like dropping 700$ on a console, 200$ on accessories, 150$ on a couple of launch games every 4 or 5 years, I'd much prefer 'milking' my dollar out with 6 / 7 or even 8 year cycles, this also ensures the next console is damn well NEXT gen.

      The Xbox 360 and PS3 both do look nice, no doubt but I don't think the leap was that great.
      The graphical capabilities of both new HD consoles is obviously better but is it leaps and bounds better?
      We're not just upping the ante with texture detail, polygons, quantity of multi-textures per surface, we're also increasing the resolution which impacts us 4x slower (well approximately)

      We're already seeing HD games which are rendered at a lower resolution and upsampled by the onboard chips.
      If they had waited another year, we'd have seen several good changes, possible examples.
      HD-DVD in the 360 (forget the movie war for a moment!, this means not only more room for games but more DENSELY packed data, meaning slower spin speeds, meaning a QUIETER SYSTEM ala the PS3)
      Arcade model possibly not existing?
      Movement control in all 3 next gen systems (to clarify, I personally couldn't care about this)
      HD capability on the Wii
      Digital audio out on the Wii (WTF?)
      Better online infrastructure.
      The first year of the next gen consoles not being crap! (1 or 2 great games per system :/ )
      More consoles on shelves at launch, especially the PS3 with it's blue diode issues
      HDMI across all 3, following STANDARDS
      etc.

      I could speculate all day, to get back on point, it's my belief that yes, all 3 of these new consoles are too early (specifically the 360) and I'd like to NOT see a new system from anyone for at least 4 years from now, bare minimum or I simply won't be joining them.
      (I also doubt the next gen will be backwards compatible, hence we need to milk this gen out thoroughly)

  9. Re:Bollocks!!! by Stormcrow309 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bah! I think my Atari 2600 still works, even though it is in my attic. You kids and your realistic graphics, bah. In my time, we had ET and... well honestly, we hated it. Bah again.

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  10. Re:Where does it leave the PC? by PrescriptionWarning · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think you're leaving out some very important information about the lack of sales when compared to doom 3:

    first off, it had been like 10 years since the release of doom 2, which as we all know doom to be a very popular old time favorite for many of us. on the other hand, far cry was never as popular, and even though it was pretty fun, had nothing new to bring to plate that we hadn't already seen in the likes of halflife and whatnot

    second, most people's PCs can run crysis, but at the Low settings. the low settings make the game look exactly like farcry, so whats the point.

    third, there's just nothing else notable about crysis besides the graphics (if you have the hardware for it). And even there its only for the effects, take a look at call of duty 4: sure the graphics aren't near crysis, but the presentation is tremendously powerful and makes it work.

    fourth, the single player in crysis was fun, kinda, but really really short. combine that with a poorly designed multiplayer and you have a game with no longevity. in essence you have a 50 dollar sink hole for anyone except those who have a powerful new computer.

  11. Re:I care about the present by jcnnghm · · Score: 2, Informative

    I thought the same thing, and then my launch 360 failed this week. I've only ever used it in completely open spaces, and it is currently sitting all by itself on top of a glass shelf. It's been suggested that the failure rate is as high as 33%, and I believe it given how easy it was to place the RMA.

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