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Comcast Promising Ultra-Fast Internet

Espectr0 writes "Comcast's CEO Brian Roberts gave The Associated Press a preview of his speech for the Consumer Electronics show, and said that Comcast expects to demonstrate a technology that delivers up to 160 megabits of data per second over cable. At that speed you could download a high-definition copy of 'Batman Begins' in four minutes. The technology, DOCSIS 3.0, will start rolling out this year." Here's a note about Cisco's announcement of their DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem.

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  1. That's Incredible. by cromar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Too bad we aren't going to see any speed close to that for personal use, at least not without forking over hefty sacks of bling.

    1. Re:That's Incredible. by ccarson · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Step 1.) Create super fast Internet
      Step 2.) Lobby anti-net neutrality
      Step 3.) Charge extra for super fast Internet
      Step 4.) Profit!

    2. Re:That's Incredible. by CMF+Risk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      All the bling in the world will do you no good when they only roll it out to already bandwidth-saturated markets(with FIOS and more), while they leave everyone else out in the cold.

      Yay for market lock-ins

    3. Re:That's Incredible. by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Insightful

      was waiting to see if they'd roll out FIOS TV too and get the package (dump Comcast altogether)

      Why wait? Dump 'em now. I dropped my cable package down to "lifeline" service (local tv stations only) and wouldn't even have had that if I could have gotten decent reception with rabbit ears.

      I actually like TV but it's just not worth the fucking money. In my area it now costs $55/mo for basic cable. $660/year. More if you want digital cable, DVR, or any of that. And it goes up every year. I can recall before Time Warner came in and bought up the local cable companies -- basic cable cost about $25/mo for 60 channels. Now it's $55/mo for 68 channels. I guess those five home shopping networks, BBC America and Spike TV really cost them $30 more....

      It's just not fucking worth it. Having the networks will get you most new shows. Cable only shows can be downloaded, oftentimes quite legally (The Daily Show). There's also DVD rentals of older shows (Netflix anyone?).

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    4. Re:That's Incredible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      I am guessing you are also single without children and work a full time job or go to school full time.

      $1800+/yr for the full cable package including 120+ channels, 20+ premium channels, ~40 HD channels, DVR, On Demand, etc. is a steal if you are a full-time stay-at-home parent. As it is I'm eyeing satellite TV to supplement the HD channels. I still use Netflix, internet, and satellite radio, but without cable I'd go batshit fucking loco.

  2. bittorrent by sankekur · · Score: 4, Insightful

    maybe fast for other things but not for bittorrent

    1. Re:bittorrent by Nullav · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, I don't know, people using BitTorrent to download legal things, like Linux distros, OpenOffice.org, World of Warcraft patches, or anything else that offers BitTorrent downloads.
      There's plenty of FTP/HTTP mirrors for Linux distros, same for OO.o, and WoW patches. (Speaking of which, the Blizzard downloader always closed right after finishing. How exactly is that helping anyone?)
      So yes, there are plenty of legal uses, but it's not exactly necessary to use BT for many of them.

      Sure, somewhere, once in a blue moon, someone downloads a public-domain movie/book using BT, but that doesn't make it the norm by any means.

      (And, of course, things like, uh, porn and fansubs may not be available on demand. Not that I'd know anything about that. Oh, and indie films and less popular films and all sorts of digital things that aren't likely to be available on demand.)
      Not that any of those are legal uses of BT.

      I'm not against torrenting stuff (Or even piracy. *cough*), I just hate the 'people download Linux' argument.
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    2. Re:bittorrent by ksheff · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I guess you don't know anyone that records concerts and then distributes the audio & video with the musician's permission. BT is great for that - much better than trying to get on some overloaded FTP site or mailing blank media to someone.

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  3. that's some interesting math right there... by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 3, Insightful

    4 minutes would download about 4.5 gigs, which is basically DVD quality... of course you can upconvert this to whichever HD resolution you want, but it's still going to look like crap compared to a 'proper' 30-40 gigs encode. OTOH having something that could d/load a blue-ray/hd-dvd level encode in less than an hour would be pretty good, but in any case the odds of getting that kind of transfer speed connected to a real site are pretty low IMHO.

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  4. Promises promises by Kelbear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll believe it when they actually offer it, there are plenty of ways for them to tie down that speed into an undesirable product. Excessive pricing, throttling, bundling, lock-in, hidden caps...

    How fast is the upload, and for that matter, how many download sources are there that can actually hit that speed for numerous users? Even in a torrent it's tough to find enough seeders to equal those speeds. If it can be done, how many suscribers can hit that speed before they crowd each other out?

    I think the biggest boost to my practical download speed would be an increase to other people's upload speeds. That sort of breakthrough would be far more exciting.

  5. Upload speed will still be 128k though by pyite69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If this is full duplex, then it will be a great deal. Otherwise it is just sad.

    1. Re:Upload speed will still be 128k though by smallfries · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Full Duplex doesn't mean what you think it does. The term that you are looking for is symmetric.

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  6. Its advertising that counts, not the product. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    In USA it is all about advertising and less about the actual product.

    Also, ppl in USA are not aware of an world where things are often better than in the States itself.

    1. Re:Its advertising that counts, not the product. by C0rinthian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Believe me, many of us are aware. Damn the telecom industry. Damn them to hell.

  7. Re:They can't deal with what they already provide? by jbeaupre · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because they can charge more for delivering the same thing.

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  8. What about customer service? by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Um, have you forgot about Hammer Granny? How about the Sleepy Tech guy, who ended up falling asleep because they put him on hold for over 2 hours? (And of course, he was the one fired, while the problem remains).

    No matter how fast they claim to be now, if their customer service remains a bureaucratic hell, no way.

  9. Re:Slick! by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All this shows is that it doesn't make one bit of a difference if it's DOCSIS 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 because Comcast is still going to throttle you via a config file and you will probably never see 150mbit connections on their network unless you're getting on-demand movies.

    If we were currently seeing 38mbit/(9|27)mbit connections now, I might be inclined to say, "yeah, they're going to give us 150+" but because they're operating at about 6mbit/less than 1mbit for the majority of connections (yes, they go a higher for short bursts) this is nothing more than fluff for CES.

  10. Re:Slick! by JeTmAn81 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ironically enough, the sales of the core Batman comic book have been used as a base metric for comic book sales for a while now.

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  11. it's called... by CaptainNerdCave · · Score: 1, Insightful

    marketing. "what do you mean you promised something we can't deliver?"

  12. Re:Slick! by Kjella · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While true, the bullshit factor stays at least somewhat constant. So if they get faster speeds in the pipe, you'll probably get a tiny fraction now like you got a tiny fraction before. Same share of a bigger pie is after all bigger.

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