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The 10 Worst PC Keyboards of All Time

Kabz found the 10 Worst PC Keyboards of all time which leads off with the Commodore 64 and takes a trip through PCjr country. Might trigger some nostalgia, or some sort of flashback wrist strain.

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  1. Well... by ricebowl · · Score: 4, Informative

    Kabz found the 10 Worst PC Keyboards of all time which leads off with the Commadore 64 and take a trip through PCjr country. Might trigger some nostalgia, or some sort of flashback wrist strain.

    I don't know about the Commadore, but I loved the Commodore 64 despite its own keyboard; though on that computer the keyboard took quite the back-seat, in terms of irritation, to the tape deck...

    Though he may be on to something, since, as I sit here typing this, I'm consciously flexing my wrists ever few seconds...

    1. Re:Well... by baldass_newbie · · Score: 5, Funny

      typing on it gave me much more finger strength than I really needed (and the nickname "the claw" when typing on softer keyboards)

      Now come on...that isn't really how you got the nickname.
      Be honest.
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    2. Re:Well... by cbart387 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Believe me, having owned the Atari 400 (my first computer), at that time; I would've given my right arm for a keyboard that good! I don't know...losing an arm would balance out a better keyboard in my opinion.
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    3. Re:Well... by jcaplan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ah, a fellow caps-lock hater. I customarily pop off a bunch of keys on my keyboards. It gets me a few odd looks at work, but it saves me lots of hassle. If I truly need one of those keys I can use a pencil to activate it. Here's the rest of my hate list:

      Insert - I've never had a use for "write over mode." Has anyone?
      Windows - Almost useless, squeezed between useful keys. Fortunately my Linux systems ignore this key.
      Menu - I'll just right-click, thanks.
      Num lock - Why won't this go away? Why do I need a way for my numeric keypad stop to working? Are the arrow keys hard to find?

      -Jon

    4. Re:Well... by darthflo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Caps Lock can be quite useful with exotic keyboard layouts. The best example of which I could think is the standard Swiss layout. It accomodates all the accents and umlauts for Switzerland's four official languages and an awesome shitload of special chars most people wouldn't even dream of having on a single keyboard (ranging from $, £ and to , and ).
      To accomodate all those functions, several keys have three, some up to five(!) functions (example: Normal: ü, Shift: é, CL: Ü, CL+Shift: É, Ctrl+Alt: [). There's also discrete umlaut and accent keys (e.g. Ctrl + Alt + , then Shift + E for É).

      Long story short: Some languages require more characters than US-ASCII and some layouts have been built to provide those with CapsLock as a modifier.

    5. Re:Well... by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Windows - Almost useless, squeezed between useful keys. Fortunately my Linux systems ignore this key.

      You can bind it to something useful like META.

      Menu - I'll just right-click, thanks.

      And take your hands off the keyboard?

      Num lock - Why won't this go away? Why do I need a way for my numeric keypad stop to working? Are the arrow keys hard to find?

      How do you move diagonally with the arrow keys?

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  2. Is it bad?? by Matt867 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is it bad that I own 6 out of 10 of these keyboards and am looking for the other 4 to complete my collection?

  3. Power Key next to Enter Key by nuxx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is also this keyboard (image) which I came across in a CompUSA sale area for $4.99 or so.

    It's big feature was that it had an extra three keys for Power, Sleep, and Wake. The problem is that these were right above the inverted-T, with Power being right next to Enter.

  4. Full text of article by duguk · · Score: 4, Informative

    10. Commodore 64 (1982)
    The Commodore 64 sits on a mile-high pedestal in the adolescent memories of millions of people, but its keyboard design--shared by Commodore's earlier VIC-20--was incredibly clumsy. One glance at it reveals three major flaws. It was visually confusing, with too many symbols printed on each key. The computer's anti-ergonomic 2-inch height made it extremely hard on the wrists of untrained typists. And the keyboard's layout leaves much to be desired, with numerous examples of poor key placement. For example, the Home/Clear key sat directly to the left of Delete (Backspace), resulting in users' making repeated accidental hits and sending the cursor back up to the top of the screen. In addition, the layout was peppered with an unusually large number of nonstandard keys such as Run/Stop and Restore. Luckily, most C64 owners remained oblivious to these problems: More often than not, they used the C64 for playing games with joysticks, saving the heavy computing work for dad's IBM PC.

    9. Timex Sinclair 2068 (1983)
    In the process of "improving" the wildly successful Sinclair ZX Spectrum for the United States market, Timex ruined the line with a bastardized version known as the Timex Sinclair 2068. But the 2068 shared one significant feature with its progenitor that it should have left behind: an atrocious keyboard. It's no exaggeration to say that using the 2068's keyboard without training was like trying to type while drunk and blindfolded. Some of the keys controlled as many as six different functions. Just to rub it all in, the unit had no Backspace key, a fault of many other early home computers. Did the designers assume that typists would never make mistakes? I bet the masterminds behind the 2068's keyboard backspaced over this part of their design history long ago.

    8. Commodore PET 2001-32-N (1978)
    Critics hailed the revised, full-stroke keyboard of the updated Commodore PET (model 2001-32-N) as a huge improvement over Commodore's first PET keyboard. But Commodore still got a few layout points terribly wrong. For one thing, the design repeated the old "Run/Stop key placed directly to the left of the Return key" trick. For another, it went with the ever-popular "lack of Backspace" maneuver; to perform something resembling a Backspace, you had to hold Shift and the left/right cursor key above the numeric keypad. And since the creators of this keyboard included a numeric keypad in the design, they cleverly omitted numbers from the primary keyboard area altogether--if you pressed keys that would conjure up numbers on any other remotely semistandard QWERTY keyboard, you'd get symbols instead. And hey, has anyone seen the period key? Oh, it's over there on the numeric keypad.

    7. Texas Instruments TI-99/4 (1979)
    With the release of the TI-99/4 in 1979, integrated-circuit pioneer TI took its first shaky steps into the home computer market with a $1150 package that included a special monitor and a calculator-like Chiclet keyboard. Like the original Apple II, the 99/4 did not support lowercase letters. Because of this limitation, the Shift key served as a function modifier, with the functions typically marked on a plastic overlay. The most frustrating of these key combinations was Shift-Q, which would quit a program or reset the computer, much to the chagrin of users who lost a day's work while erroneously trying to capitalize the letter Q. The 99/4's layout problems extended beyond the Q conundrum: The Enter key sat where a Right Shift key would normally reside on a standard layout. Also, the keyboard had a space key instead of a spacebar, and it was located in an odd position. The design had no dedicated Backspace key,

  5. Backspace by baeksu · · Score: 5, Funny

    So there really was keyboards without a backspace...And I always thought it was just a bad dream, like the one with the strange man, pickup van, and false promises of candy...

    It's a good thing no one patented the backspace, though. Wait a minute, I think I just came up with a business plan!

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  6. Re:How about the best by Ubergrendle · · Score: 5, Funny

    I still use IBM keyboards at work and home due to their durability. True story -- IBM used to market the keyboards to banks (like the one I work at) as a productivity enhancer...the loud audible 'click click click' has been proven in usability studies to improve data entry by 3-5% since its another feedback response (audible) to a potential error. When I mistype on an IBM keyboard, I *know* I've mistyped.

    I also like the fact that I can bludgeon someone to death with it, if worse comes to worst.

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  7. Like the list... Hate the page! by kellyb9 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm writing my own article on worst navigation by a Web site. This PCWorld page will clearly be number 1 on my list.

  8. ... and the ZX80? by Anoraknid+the+Sartor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The ZX81 was there - in the guise of the Timex 1000, but its predecessor, the ZX80 wasn't.

    I remember when I sold my Sinclair ZX80 and bought the Sinclair ZX81 - and marvelled at the relative comfort of its keyboard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_ZX80 Compared to the ZX80, the Commodore keyboard was a joy.

    In fact every machine Sinclair made had a slightly dodgy keyboard - the QL was a pain to word-process on and the Cambridge Z88 was - effective, and quiet, but took some getting used to.

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  9. disagree on some points by Tom · · Score: 5, Informative
    I have to disagree on a number of points, that I think could've been researched better:
    • The "nonstandard keys" complaint about the C64 ignores that back in 1973 when the C64 was designed, there was no standard. You can't be "nonstandard" if there isn't a standard. Even the IBM 8086 keyboards where "nonstandard" by that definition (check here and here for examples)
    • Snide remark: The vast majority of C64 owners didn't do "real work on daddy's IBM PC" because daddy didn't own a computer at all back then. We were the first generation with computers at home, for the most part.
    • The constant whining about the lack of backspace ignores that on many of those machines (I don't know all of them, so some might work differently) the delete key actually worked as backspace when you were at the end of a line.


    Mostly, I don't understand why the article complains so much about old keyboards, from times when everyone, including the computer companies, was still working things out. There are perfectly crappy keyboards on the market right now. Sure, they have a "standard" layout, but after using them for 3 weeks the keys start to rub off so you can start to learn touch-typing, except that the tactile feedback is nonexistent and the keypresses unreliable. I'd consider that much worse than having key X next to key Y.

    Also, can we add the article to the list of "10 worst article navigation methods"?
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  10. Can also be used as a weapon. by rs79 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "To those of us who have learned to type blindly at a decent speed, the big layout, clicking sound and unmistakeable tactile feedback are actually pro's"

    Amen brother. I can't use any other keyboard. When you've hit a key on a model M, baby you KNOW you've hit a key. There's just neevr any question. It takes up too much space on a desk? Oh. 1) Tough 2) So? 3) get a bigger desk ya pansy.

    Plus they're $2 in thrift shops. Hell, sometimes if I'm in some funky computer store and see one tucked away and ask they'll often as not say "it's too old to be useful just take it". Yeah baby, score.

    Plus you can take them apart eight ways from sunday and they're nearly impossible to kill. And how many other 25 year old computer products are still usefull today?

    Come to think of it my car and microwave are also 25 years old and better than any of the crap found new today.

    Huh, they really were the good old days.

    I do take the caps lock key off though. It's annoying to HIT IT INSTEAD OF TAB.

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  11. The C=64 was not a computer by volpone · · Score: 4, Funny
    The Commodore 64 was not a computer with a crappy keyboard.

    The Commodore 64 was an awesome gaming platform with tons of buttons.