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Shuttle's $200 Linux PC Part of a Trend?

eldavojohn writes "With $200 machines being all the rage these days, it's surprising that more coverage hasn't been given to Shuttle's KPC which is an Intel Celeron processor, a 945GC chipset, 512MB of memory and either a 60GB or 80GB HDD. With deals like these, will Linux become the dominant home operating system for the thrifty?"

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  1. And I though . . . by cashman73 · · Score: 4, Funny

    that NASA had actually put Linux on the Space Shuttle. Darn! What a disappointment! Figures, though. NASA could never spend as low as $200 on a computer; what, when they can gold-plate the sucker and buy a computer for $200 million?

  2. Probably not by AVIDJockey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...but it would certainly be a good inexpensive network storage option for many folks.

  3. A potential buisness model problem... by east+coast · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just for the record; I'm not proclaiming any great knowledge in this area.

    I just wonder if the business model won't be fruitful at first and slowly fade into non-existence.

    The allure of low priced PCs for the neophyte is a great one but one of two things are likely to happen: They'll either find out that they want more and end up willing to spend more and probably choose Windows for the software support or they'll find that the machine suits their purposes and latch onto them for a larger than normal span of time and repeat customers will be next to nil.

    I've found that people who pinch a penny when buying hardware are normally not good business for vendors. They'll make a machine last to their dying day.

    So while the initial repsonce is going to be great but don't expect to see lots of these people as return customers in the next few years.

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    1. Re:A potential buisness model problem... by paeanblack · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Just for the record; I'm not proclaiming any great knowledge in this area.

      I just wonder if the business model won't be fruitful at first and slowly fade into non-existence.

      The allure of low priced PCs for the neophyte is a great one but one of two things are likely to happen: They'll either find out that they want more and end up willing to spend more and probably choose Windows for the software support or they'll find that the machine suits their purposes and latch onto them for a larger than normal span of time and repeat customers will be next to nil.

      I've found that people who pinch a penny when buying hardware are normally not good business for vendors. They'll make a machine last to their dying day.

      So while the initial repsonce is going to be great but don't expect to see lots of these people as return customers in the next few years.


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    2. Re:A potential buisness model problem... by norminator · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let's face facts, there is tons of software that is not on Linux that people want. How much longer is the Linux community going to ignore this fact?
      If you think about it for a minute, I think you'll realize that the linux community is not ignoring the fact, just doing its best to carry on in spite of it, living without some apps, trying to create replacements where possible, or trying to encourage software companies to release linux versions of their programs. When it comes down to it, though, it's the software companies's fault that the software you want isn't available for linux. It's kind of a chicken and egg kind of thing... not much incentive to create software for a system that doesn't have a lot of users... and there's not a lot of users because some of the necessary software isn't available. Things like these low-cost PCs that allow people to do some useful computing without paying for the expensive hardware required for the latest Microsoft OS are a part of what the linux community needs to encourage people to try linux, so that software companies will have more motivation to produce software for linux, which will encourage more users to switch, and so on.
    3. Re:A potential buisness model problem... by Neil+Hodges · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I do realize I'm in the minority, but there's a lot of software on Linux that I can't get at Windows, especially what comes with the OS. That's why my main machines run Linux and the gaming machine I rarely boot up runs Windows.

      Some examples are basic shell utilities or their analogues, such as grep, tr, and dozens of others. Although possible to get on Windows, Perl, Python, and other interpreters don't run as smoothly and take more work to do on Windows. For my purposes, it's most efficient to use such tools in a shell prompt, which Windows somewhat lacks (don't get me started on their DOS emulator, which lacks decent tab completion, useful text selection support, and so on). I even have a friend who has SSHd running under Cygwin so he can SSH into his own computer and have a useful terminal emulator and shell (Bash in his case).

      The same goes for the graphical applications I use, such as parts of KDE, which haven't run on Windows well yet (KDE4 will fix that). Other examples are good shell replacements. It's like having to use CDE during the days of proprietary Unix, without any good options. Sure, BB4Win derivatives provide options, but they're nowhere nearly as good as XFce, KDE, or even RatPoison for my purposes (I'm not even sure why it's not possible to have two different wallpapers in dual-head mode under Windows).

      Sure, for the average consumer, Windows has what they want and the software they'll send their money in for, but for someone raised under GNU/Linux, Windows lacks the important software.

  4. Why the thrifty? More like the reasonable by arivanov · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you do not want to play games and all you need is office, mail, some MP3-ed music and watching an odd DVD that is more than enough.

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  5. QUICKBOOKS by copponex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Alright. I've said it OVER and OVER and OVER. And I still mean it. If you want to help Linux double it's presence in the small business sector, get a rock solid, customized, easy to use WINE installer for Quickbooks and make it compatible with new versions within 90 days.

    Businesses, once they see it in action, will scoop up $250 boxes and switch because: they don't have to pay for the VM and the Windows license, they don't have to pay for yearly anti-virus subscriptions, and they don't have to deal with windows update constantly breaking and changing things.

    But, I do look forward to the next version of whatever eye candy you guys are working on. Rotating xterms on a cube is really, really impressing the suits.

  6. To the new computer user by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well to a new computer user, Linux can be just as friendly as MacOS, or Windows. They all have equally steep learning curves.

    Considering what people would want out of a $200 machine, I would say that Linux can be even more user friendly. On a bare bones machine, people don't have the expectation of being able to do 'anything' give them their large icons for a preconfigured email/web/word/musicplayer interface and that is what they will stick to.

    For a $200 PC, I would prefer a linux distro. And this is coming from someone who prefers using XP for most of my computing needs.

    Obligatory car analogy:

    I love my pickup truck for its cargo capacity, not its gas mileage.

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  7. Don't start the party, yet. by urcreepyneighbor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With specs like those, Linux may become known as a "low quality" operating system. To the masses, at least.

    I'll explain: Joe Consumer buys a system for $200. He realizes that he can't run his Windows apps easily/at all, that it's "different" and "difficult" from what he knows (Microsoft, again), and it's kind of slow. He'll associate Linux with incompatibility, difficulties, and piss poor performance. And he may tell his friends.

    I haven't even addressed the poor schmuck trying to bring home work from the office.

    The typical /.er can spend a couple hours reconfoobling a box, Joe Consumer doesn't have that luxury - he's got bills to pay, sleep to steal, and enough grief from the rest of his life. He doesn't want to know what a goddamn compiler is, he doesn't give a shit about GPL dogma, and he couldn't care less who Stallman is - he simply wants his box to do what he expects and wants it to do.

    Be careful what'cha ask for, ya know.

    Oh, yeah: save the argument about "educating the masses". They don't care and trying to shove propaganda, dogma and excuses down their throats will only drive them further away from Linux.

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  8. Re:no CD/DVD drive bay? by tknd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't know about you but I am finding I use the optical drive less and less these days. It is much easier to just get a USB flash drive for portable storage and dump the remaining large files onto an external hard disk. New software tends to be downloaded rather than loaded from a disk. So CD/DVD media is only useful for movies and install disks for new OSes. If they start making faster bootable USB flash drives with downloadable image files then I probably will stop using optical drives all together.

  9. Re:no CD/DVD drive bay? by ajs318 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's possible to boot up from a USB storage device.

    An ISO image is just a filesystem which you can mount. All you need to do then is copy all the files and folder structure from a downloaded installation CD image onto a USB stick of 1GB or larger, and make the USB stick bootable using the bootloader configurator thoughtfully provided. You now have a rescue "disc", albeit a USB one.

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  10. Re:512 Ram, 60GB HD... by tristian_was_here · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want a red one with a yellow hammer and sickle on the side.

  11. Re:Cheap machines... by myz24 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hi, I don't have a computer at home to play games.

  12. Re:no CD/DVD drive bay? by MsGeek · · Score: 4, Informative

    External USB2 DVD-/+RW drive. Ridiculously cheap nowadays. Problem solved. Thank me.

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  13. It's not a laptop... by fantomas · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "With $200 machines being all the rage these days, it's surprising that more coverage hasn't been given to Shuttle's KPC..."


    It's not a laptop. Next!


    Not flamebait, but the truth. Cute little laptops have been either underpowered or the preserve of the rich till now, so Asus and everybody else knocking out workable, durable, cute machines is newsworthy. A desktop box that costs 200 dollars? where's the news in that? You can find those on every high street, and loads of people have brought out cute looking ones so nothing new there either. Plus it's not 200 dollars and press the on button, for Joe Public it's 200 dollars, spend some more on a monitor, then plug it into the wall. SO more like buying another desktop. Yawn.

  14. Re:Teh REAL Lunix customer by webmaster404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But, one of the main problems to Linux adoption is the install process. Have you even seen XP's install? Its much more complex then Ubuntu's install (albeit much easier then Gentoo's). The other problem is most people don't know any other OS other than Windows. While it is true that some of these machines will be running Windows, the most will be running Linux on them because people just go with what they have.

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  15. Re:Teh REAL Lunix customer by blixel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Your average user will love this computer: it lets them spend $200, and they can just throw a pirated copy of Windows on it.

    Since the $200 Shuttle doesn't come with an optical drive, I don't think the average user will be technically savvy enough to install Windows on it.