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Long Term Effects of Gizmodo CES Prank

theodp noted that someone from Gizmodo brought a TV-B-Gone to CES and used it to turn off a wall of monitors during demos. Funny yes, it earned him a ban for life and may have repercussions to other bloggers struggling to be treated as equals with traditional journalists in the future. But also this might lead to a future with encryption on remotes.

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  1. Encryption on remotes? by Bazman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, or presenters sticking electrical tape over the remote sensors on the displays.

    1. Re:Encryption on remotes? by Bazman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wow. Looks like we'll have to go back to chucking bricks at monitors to turn them off...

    2. Re:Encryption on remotes? by dpete4552 · · Score: 5, Funny

      ROFL. Yeah no need for all of that complicated electrical tape business. Just hook into the serial port on the back of the screen and send commands to the LCD to lock the IR port. And thank you to the mods who modded the parent "Informative" To think of all the time I would have wasted with electrical tape if this "informative" post wasn't pointed out to me!

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    3. Re:Encryption on remotes? by cecil_turtle · · Score: 5, Funny

      No need for Electrical tape What, is it really expensive where you live?

      ... a serial port in the back where you can send commands to the LCD ... most LG tvs have a SET ID that you can set, hook them up over serial cable and brodcast a command to all of them and they will only anwser if it's there set ID in it... Yeah, because that's easier than using 1/2" of electrical tape. I'm sure there's a joke about engineers in here somewhere but I'm too tired today.
  2. Encryption's going a little too far by DingerX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only reason to put encryption in would be to prevent people shutting these things off at product demos and restaurants. Turning them off at restaurants isn't a widespread problem (unfortunately), and at product demos, duct tape is going to be a lot more popular in the future.

    I wish they would stop calling these things "gates", and worry about the future of bloggers. Yes, the CES created two classes: "press" and "blogger", and yes, members of that underclass acted in a juvenile manner, bad enough to cause a stink that will appear in the "press". It will appear in the "press" tomorrow. See, yesterday it was all over the blogs, and now it's hit the aggregators. Sooner or later those with press credentials will catch on to the story.

    1. Re:Encryption's going a little too far by FuturePastNow · · Score: 4, Informative

      According to the story, Gizmodo was there under actual press credentials, not the second-class blogger pass. And I haven't heard of any other pranks, so don't go blaming a whole "underclass."

      This was no big deal. They should ban the guy who did it and move on.

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  3. Re:First Post! by dpete4552 · · Score: 4, Informative

    How did he get caught? Are you kidding me? He posted a video of himself doing it, proudly stating his first and last name in the intro to give himself credit.

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  4. Well if the blogger's aren't willing to act... by Crasoum · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well if the blogger's aren't willing to act like professionals, then they won't be treated as professionals.

    In the article it stated they weren't being taken as seriously as the Press; and when someone decides it'd be cute to do some practical joking, at the expense of others, it just reaffirms the assumptions they aren't to be taken seriously.

    1. Re:Well if the blogger's aren't willing to act... by Migraineman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Didn't they learn this lesson as a child? "If you want to sit at the adult table, you have to behave like a big kid."

      For a short-term chuckle, they've managed to damage the long-term credibility of bloggers who were actually trying to earn proper press credentials. The trade show guys all know each other; the news will get around. The event organizers have a choice:
      . (a) inconvenience the paying customer by recommending that they cover their IR ports on displays
      . (b) inconvenience the non-revenue-generating bloggers by showing them the door

      The smart ones will do both, though they'll play the good-guy with their customers and issue an article in a newsletter that provides helpful tips to "Make your booth time a better experience!" Bloggers will be downgraded to the status of the great unwashed masses ...

    2. Re:Well if the blogger's aren't willing to act... by BeanThere · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not clear to me why all bloggers should be lumped together or treated as a "community". A blog is just a medium, like a blank piece of paper. If one painter behaves unprofessionally, nobody assumes it somehow reflects on the "entire community of painters as a whole". Likewise for cartoonists, or movie actors or directors, or radio DJs, or stand-up comedians, or writers, or "real" journalists for that matter. Treat professional individuals like professional individuals, and unprofessional ones like unprofessional ones, and scrap this silly obsession with regarding all bloggers like one single borg-like entity.

    3. Re:Well if the blogger's aren't willing to act... by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The event organizers have a choice:
      1. inconvenience the paying customer by recommending that they cover their IR ports on displays
      2. inconvenience the non-revenue-generating bloggers by showing them the door
      What a poor set of choices you've picked. Did you do that to try to mislead people? Are you a politician?

      What does being a blogger have to do with playing a prank? Anyone on the floor can play a prank. Having a press credential doesn't make an iota of difference. Kicking out bloggers won't reduce the risk of interference any more than kicking out the white males or the booth babes would.
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    4. Re:Well if the blogger's aren't willing to act... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While I don't agree very much with treating an entire group the same, there is a point to it. The trade shows are by professionals, for professionals. If you're working for a competitor, you risk getting fired because you exposed your employer to legal liability, because you represent a company when you're at the show. If you're a pro journalist, then you're NOT going to risk your career over a prank. In comparison, most bloggers have nothing at stake.

  5. Seems like a pretty immature prank by DrXym · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Imagine you're a company presenting your new lineup of TVs and some dickhead in the audience decides to shut them down during your presentation. How do you even begin to calculate the damage that might have caused to prospective customers or partners?

    The guy should be banned for life. At least with IR remotes you can stick a bit of tape over the receive to stop it. I imagine that wireless technologies could be extremely vulnerable to similar pranks (and sabotage). Imagine the trouble someone could cause just by blocking signals, or sending spurious malformed messages designed to kill a device.

  6. Not funny... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Immature, unethical, and unprofessional.

    A ethical line is crossed when a blogger creates the news instead of reporting it.

  7. Vandalism. by xtracto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I just saw the video. I did not know what was this about. At first, I thought it was hilarious. Yes, the prank was nice. But then I thought that such acting is vandalism. I mean, the company (maybe motorlola?) that got their monitors turned off while it was presenting really should be able to sue these guys for vandalism. I know they should grow a sense of humour, but at the very least the guys should apologize publicaly to the companies that they affected.

    This kind of stuff is what you do only *ïf* you are prepared to face the consequences, and even though maybe turning off TVs would not have a lot of effect at the doctor's office or at some random public area, in this kind of technology shows it really affects the people.

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  8. Oooo, you just gave me an idea by cvd6262 · · Score: 4, Funny

    What would you give me to go to the MacWorld keynote with an Apple remote. Imagine how pissed Jobs would get if every time he tried to show a new app on an iMac of MacBook, FrontRow started up and then started browsing his shared music.

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    1. Re:Oooo, you just gave me an idea by fyonn · · Score: 4, Informative

      to be fair, apples allow you to pair the standard apple remote with the computer, so only that one remote will control it, precisely to avoid that issue...

      dave

  9. I hate TV-B-gone by Egdiroh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I really think that the only reason for such a device to exist is to make a list of all the self centered arrogant people who buy one to purge them from society.

    The device is designed to turn off other people's TVs. If you don't like TV, or televised sports, avoid those places that have them on. Be a discerning consumer and create a market for places that will provide and pleasant atmosphere for you. Don't be a petulant child and turn the TVs off. I don't come into your place and turn your computer, or stereo off, or slam shut the book you are reading. If I did you'd take great offense, and would feel violated. Well the world is not all about you. Get over it. Don't do things whose analog you wouldn't like done to yourself.
    This might have been a rant. It might be a troll. But I really would love to hear a justification of this device that does not amount to a fascist imposition of one person's will upon others. And these things do not have enough buttons to really validate the rudimentary universal remote argument, and they are targeted at individuals not institutions, so I won't buy that some institutions with large numbers of TVs might find it useful for start/end of day stuff.

  10. Re:I love my Spy Remote by Snorpus · · Score: 4, Funny

    but I wouldn't turn off a football game at a sports bar. That would be rude.

    Not to mention dangerous to one's health.

  11. Dead Gizmodo - don't expect a Macworld invite by Picass0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would expect Gizmodo's chances of attending future press events are circling the toilet now. A shame, they have always done minute by minute coverage of the "One more thing..." and Macworld keynotes.

    If I were a marketing staffer or PR guy I wouldn't want them anywhere near a press conference. People can lose their jobs over press demos not working, so they aren't going to take the chance of inviting four year olds in the future.

  12. Re:I love my Spy Remote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We don't have a TV at home that is hooked up to an antenna or cable or Directv or whatever is out there.
    By "we", I assume you me you and your cat? BTW, congratulations on the article.

    If we go to lunch and a TV is up, I will find myself distracted by the movement, and I hate extra noise. Just Thursday one of my coworkers and also my manager saw me turn off a plasma screen (that no one was watching) at a Vietnamese Pho place and now they both want three.

    You, sir, are a douchebag. Same goes for your coworker and manager.

    Try to comprehend this: IT'S NOT YOUR FUCKING TV.

    Instead of being polite and asking the proprietor, "Excuse me, would it be possible to turn the TV off?", you impose your will on them and anybody else that comes into that establishment.

    Do I like TVs in these places? Usually not. If there is no one around, I'll ask the owner or staff member to turn it off or to let me do it. NEVER has such a request been refused. If I was refused for what appears to be no good reason, I'll remember that for next time and not give them my money.

  13. Re:The difference between a blogger and a journali by danielk1982 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >someone who graduated from DeVry isn't "really" a programmer since he didn't get an MS in CompSci or Maths or whatever.

    If he can write good code, it doesn't matter if he has a degree or a diploma or nothing. You will find very few people here on slashdot who disagree with that. So I don't see why a McDonald's burger flipper blogging on politics cannot have better commentary than a graduate of Harvard Journalism. Journalists have to earn the public's respect, something they have been failing at the last 20 years. I get a sense that journalists have some warped sense of entitlement towards their degree and profession.

  14. Re:Tv-B-Gone: Guranteed for next year CES by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My (glass) windows are not secure against big hurled rocks, and it's a fairly obvious "security hole". I'd be happy to prosecute anyone doing that for vandalism, not conclude that I need to change windows or board them up. Stop trying to defend an asshat, it's perfectly reasonable for someone to bring a TV to a presentation without someone turning it off or yanking the power cable or unscrewing the fuse, even though it's not permanent like breaking a window. This is simply malice and he deserves to be banned.

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  15. Re:I love my Spy Remote by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Funny

    Turning off TVs showing a football game in progress at a sports bar has been shown to cause beer bottles, shot glasses, and college students to defy gravity. The seem to spontaneously launch into the air, gravitating toward the point of RF emission that induced the sports footage vacuum.

  16. Re:Yes...but how many people have serial cables? by 0xygen · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is normally not a PC though, there are dedicated AV control systems out there (AMX, Crestron et al).
    Being a control systems programmer, I happen to know many of the sets at trade shows, especially AV trade shows, are under RS232 control!

    Often this is because of the impracticality of the remote - many only have a single on/off button on the IR remote.
    You press it, half of the displays turn off.
    You press it again, some of the display toggle from on to off, some toggle from off to on.
    You end up using a rolled up sheet of paper to go around each one to set it on / off.

    Unfortunately not many of the models have the ability to lock the IR out via the serial port!

  17. Re:A complete over reaction by GoofyBoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >Yes he disrupted a couple of demonstrations, how many times had the presenter been through his script? For how many days? What exactly was lost by this disruption? How will the consumer electronics industry survive this loss?

    Ever presented anything to an important client? Now as you are doing your presentation and right in the middle of it, take out your visual portion of it. Now pretend that the visual portion of it is what you are selling.
    Not exactly so small.

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  18. Be careful with this by name_already_taken · · Score: 4, Informative

    Try moving strong magnets across your c.r.t. displays, its fun!

    This is only safe with weak magnets.

    Neodymium magnets, such as those you can salvage from hard drives, can not only magnetize the shadow mask, they can permanently distort it. Degauss cycles will not fix that - the only way to repair a monitor damaged in that way is to replace the picture tube.

    Do this in a retail environment and you may find yourself talking with the police.

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    1. Re:Be careful with this by name_already_taken · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, sorry, that's incorrect. You don't understand the problem that needs to be repaired in this case.

      You are correct that it is possible to hand-degauss a seriously magnetized shadow mask, in fact there are degaussing coils sold specifically for TV repair people to do just that when the built-in degaussing coil around the picture tube is not strong enough to remove severe magnetism left in the shadow mask. I've done it myself back when I used to repair television sets in the 1980s.

      You cannot degauss out a bent shadow mask, because the problem is not residual magnetism left in the shadow mask, the shadow mask is physically deformed by a neodymium magnet. You can't fix that with a magnet, you can only make it worse.

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  19. And here's a link to the video by Kabuthunk · · Score: 5, Informative

    To save people a few seconds of having to google stuff or whatnot, here's a link to the video in question on Youtube.

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  20. Looks like... by rob1980 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The CES's Blogger-B-Gone device is working just fine.

  21. Re:I love my Spy Remote by Belial6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What you did was vandalism. Pure and simple. If your manager was smart, he would be looking for an excuse to fire you. After all, if you are willing to screw with one business because there is a little bit of movement in the corner of the room, then just imagine what you would be willing to do to a business that you are on the inside of when there is a bunch of movement.

    Seriously, the "I don't have a TV" crowd don't even realize how ignorant they are. I can assume by your wording that you do have a TV, you just watch movies instead of broadcast television. Here is a secret. Movies are not inherently better than TV. Heck, even books are not inherently better than TV.

    And the Cosby joke you reference isn't saying the parents are right. It is saying that parents are self serving pieces of crap that will be unjust to get what they want. By using that quote, you are openly admitting that you don't care about right or wrong as long as you get your way. Do your children know that you are a bad person, and are willing to screw them for your convenience?

  22. Re:I love my Spy Remote by portforward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    vandalism - Willful or malicious destruction of public or private property.

    Pray tell, what did I destroy? The TV still functioned. They turned it back on just before we left. NOBODY noticed that it was off except my table for around 30 minutes. The place was packed and the 50 inch plasma was 15 feet directly in front of me. The workers can't speak English and were too busy to serve meals to turn off the TV.

    Actually my current manager is the best manager that I have ever had. He gets technology and he gets people. He stands up for me, and is very understanding of personal situations. The coworker that wanted three of them is one of the most ethical people I know. It is a huge stretch of the imagination to say, "turn off tv" to "sabotage databases". I would never, ever mess with the data at my job. I work with the transmission of medical records. It is not an exaggeration to say people could die if I do that. Why kill someone's mom or son because I hate my job?

    Yes, I have a projector hooked up to a DVD. It is on for two hours once maybe every three days. I do this because it would be way too easy for me to sit down and watch TV and waste my evening. My six year old would be watching ALL THE TIME. So I cut down on the amount he watches, and I have much more control over content. Instead of "American Idol" he and I build Legos, and he learned to read at a very early age and do math at a very early age. Not having broadcast TV in our home has been one of the best decisions that my wife and I have made. I don't know about you, but I like quiet. Quiet allows me to think. Quiet allows me to work. Quiet allows me to have conversations and relationships with people I care about. Why do you crave distractions?

    It is saying that parents are self serving pieces of crap that will be unjust to get what they want.

    Wow, are you 19 years old? Do you have kids? In the same comedy bit, Cosby said, "My wife and I used to be intellectuals." And then they had kids. I am not the world's best husband or father, but I do try my best.

  23. Re:I love my Spy Remote by Blnky · · Score: 5, Insightful
    To be clear, I generally do not like television in commercial establishments.

    So if you had a party of 4 and there were only 3 chairs, would you ask the owner before moving a chair from the next table? Yes I would. Either someone who works there or someone already sitting at the table. That chair may already be in use by someone who is not at that table at the time. Very rude to take it. Additionally, someone who works there may already be retrieving a chair for me. By not asking first, I may be invalidating their work when they show up with yet another chair. So asking first is being polite.

    If the door was open and there was snow blowing in, would you ask the owner if you could close the door? Yes I would. Perhaps for some reason it has been left open to allow someone to carry in stock with their hands full. It is not for me to presume the reasons. That is the reason for asking.

    It's not a matter of "being polite"; it's something so trivial politeness doesn't even enter into the equation. Interesting that you view the act of shutting down someones else's electronics trivial. A leery person would never let you into a hospital.

    ("Impose your will", ha. I've never in my life seen anybody watch TV in a restaurant, even briefly.) Either you have not been within the same restaurants as I have been or you seriously lack powers of observation. Consider this, why would all those proprietors waste money on televisions and electricity if it was not utilized by anyone?

    So comprehend this: ... It's just a TV. If the proprietor really wants it on, he can turn it back on, and tell everybody "please leave it on". You know, like if he really wanted the chair left by that other table he could come over and tell you that, too. (Another way to look at it: TVs are much, much easier to secure than wifi networks.) So a proprietor has to tell everyone to leave it alone. Then someone new walks in and turns it off. So the proprietor has to tell everyone to leave it alone. Then someone new walks in and turns it off. So the proprietor has to tell everyone to leave it alone. Then someone new walks in and turns it off.... Understand it now?

    Common sense says that if you wish to change something that's small, irrelevant, and perfectly reversible, it's OK to do without asking for permission. Common sense also says that what may seem small and irrelevant to you may not be to someone else. Therefore you should not assume it is ok without checking first.

    And yet, as soon as a television is involved, HOLY FUCKING SHIT GOOD SIR DO NOT CLICK THAT REMOTE OR YOU ARE A DOUCHEBAG. It is a communication medium that has been established. Consider a physical bulletin board with both entertaining and informative posts. I might find all of the posts small and irrevelant. However, even though posting them back up if I take them all off and lay them on a table to the side would be a reversible action, this does not make it ok for me to take such a change without checking first. From my perspective you do not see the act of turning off the television as a part of a larger concept of actions all of which are considered impolite.

    So comprehend this: CALM FUCKING DOWN. So comprehend this: Learn to keep your hands to yourself.