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Vinyl Gets Its Groove Back

theodp writes "Time reports that vinyl records are suddenly cool again. Vinyl has a warmer, more nuanced sound than CDs or MP3s; records feature large album covers with imaginative graphics, pullout photos, and liner notes. 'Bad sound on an iPod has had an impact on a lot of people going back to vinyl,' says 15-year-old David MacRunnel, who owns more than 1,000 records."

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  1. "Suddenly"? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We've only been hearing this since about the day after the first CD player came out.

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  2. Not surprising... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... That a guy who owns 1000 records justified his stupendous outlay by making blanket statements that compressed digital audio sounds bad.

    And then the audiophile jargon of "nuanced" etc etc... What a load of crap.

  3. One Cannot Identify With An Infinite Supply by Effugas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If someone has a thousand albums on MP3, whatever. It doesn't say anything about them. They spent a night raiding P2P. Big deal.

    If someone has a thousand albums on Vinyl, it's a different story. You think something of him. Maybe good, maybe bad, but you can expect him to rather deeply identify himself by his music. Each record was individually chosen, to the exclusion of others. Time was invested, thought was expressed, identity is reflected.

    And that, of course, is what not just Vinyl, but the entire shared music experience is really about. Music is more than bits. Music is more than waves of air lapping or pounding at one's eardrums. Music is, or at least can be, about identity. That a fifteen year old kid is desperately trying to assert his should surprise absolutely nobody here.

  4. Re:Oy vey by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree. I'm sick of all this recent BS about how bad MP3 is. I downloaded severals albums in FLAC the other day to do an experiment. (I'm in Canada, and downloading is legal currently due to the levies we pay, so NYAH!) I did an experiment and encoded it into 245vbr MP3 and listened to both to compare. On most of it, I wound up losing track of which was FLAC and which was MP3. (This is on pretty decent headphones.) ONLY difference I noted was on one track there was 70's style guitar (Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, "Calypso Breakdown" if you're interested) and the MP3 DID lose the very VERY high end frequency on the guitar. Not enough to even really consider it was such a minimal difference. Certainly didn't detract from the song.

    Plus one big advantage with MP3 over even CD... YOU CAN'T SCRATCH AN MP3. I mean I love vinyl, I always will, I have tons of it in storage, but I'm also a realist. One mishap and you're precious vinyl is fucked for ever. Whenever I hear Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust", even after 25+ years, I STILL expect it to skip during the final chorus because my version got scratched there shortly after purchase. And, of course, MP3 won't break, warp in the heat etc... Vinyl may sound good, but it's a retarded format due to it's volatility.

    I've also got CD's that won't play properly due to a scratch being at just the wrong angle etc...

    Though I do find it funny that in the late 80's there was all that crap about the ink they use on CD's eating through the CD and rendering unplayable within seven years. Even made the mainstream media. Turned out to be utter garbage, surprise surprise. I've got CD's that are 20 years old and still play just fine.

  5. Re:Oy vey by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm also sick over the ramant BS over how records sound better than CD. Jeebus these people are stupid.

    Let's see, to get the BEST sound out of a record, it needs to be NEW and pressed right, then you need a new and high end cartridge on your high end turntable that has lots of mass so that you dont get speed fluxuations. Direct drive with at least 8 pounds of rotating mass is best. now you need the tonearm weight set as light as possible without letting it launch, but not damaging the record.

    So finally after spending 3-4 grand to play that record you had better be very still, oh isolate that turntable and not turn it up loud as the vibrations get back INTO the music.

    Only raving lunatics think the old albums are better. Cripes I have no intereste in even unboxing that SME turntable from the 80's with it's $1000.00 309 tonearm. Properly mastered CD's on a $99.00 CD player kick the CRAP out of albums except for the very first play.

    The problem is there has not been a properly mastered CD released for nearly a decade so most of you dont have a clue as to what a good one sounds like.

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  6. Re:Oy vey by donscarletti · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For people to whom music quality matters (those who "love" music), there IS a difference in sound. If you just "like" music, then you're probably not going to hear an appreciable difference.
    Music isn't about sound, it is about rhythm, melody, harmony, lyrics and attitude. A beautiful work is still beautiful even with its high frequencies muddied up and a pop every few minutes. If audiophiles find momentary breaks in fidelity distracting whereas others do not, then it is the audiophiles who cannot love music. People train themselves to assess the technology, to listen for artifacts and distortion, when there is music playing all they can hear from it is that the impedance of the left woofer's coil is not matched with that of the amp. Having a nice sound system is something to be proud of, being able to hear the problems in cheaper ones is not.
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