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US Policy Would Allow Government Access to Any Email

An anonymous reader writes "National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell is currently helping to draft a new Cyber-Security Policy that could make the debate over warrantless wiretaps seem like a petty squabble. The new policy would allow the government to access to the content of any email, file transfer, or web search."

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  1. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And what is it going to do about my encryption keys?

    Not that I support this, but I sure as hell don't intend to make it easy for people to invade my privacy when I'm not doing anything illegal.

    1. Re:Really? by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'd just go with the 5th ammendment defense - I don't have to tell you things that could incriminate me.

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    2. Re:Really? by Firethorn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You don't have to 'let' them into your home - they need a search warrant for that. Enough evidence and they can even drill the lock and such - you don't have to tell them where your key is.

      Still, as long as the constitution holds out, they can ask you your password and you can plead the fifth.

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    3. Re:Really? by ecitizen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As Benjamin Franklin said, "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." In this case, the Supreme Court ruled years ago that privacy is a freedom. If you look at what the FBI did to Martin Luther King years ago in their attempts to discredit him, you'll see what happens when you lose your privacy. If you give government power, eventually, they will abuse it. --E-Citizen

    4. Re:Really? by rtb61 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      What is dangerous about this is, it is not about just email, it is about all you Internet communications. Searching, file download, web sites visited (you download html), so the can create a full, in their interpretation psychological profile of you ie. we think you are guilty hence you are. Want to be a free thinking democratic voter under a republican government, based upon failing a range of pre established filters and data relations, they can ensure you are excluded from society as much as possible, no access to any public transport, no access to any government employment, no access to any 'secure' contracted to government private employment, random destructive searches of your person and property as well as all the members of your family resident at that address.

      Want to try to deny you disagree against government policy, or that you wont vote to keep them in power, or that you don't 100% agree with a corporation that supports the current government and your life and the future of your family will be systemically targeted. Unless you publicly support them and their chosen evangelical religion of power and control, you will become the enemy, and will be accused and judged by the 21st century Internet inquisition and potentially targeted for harsh interogation techniques.

      Don't fit their current preferred 'mold' of what they define to be a good, white, evangelical, american and honestly how well will you and your family fare under the 21st century Internet inquisition. Conspire to be free and believe in democracy and justice and you will learn how easily conspiracy laws can be abused.

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  2. I got an idea.... by bherman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When the White House produces their missing emails, we'll produce ours
    That should sufficiently prevent this from becoming law!

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  3. Re:The Constitution... by timmarhy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    why must we have to justify privacy? it's obvious to anyone that if a letter isn't addressed to you then it's an invasion of privacy regardless of the measures we take to stop you.

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  4. Re:Diminishing returns by cptdondo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think you miss the point. The data will be mined after the fact or to build a case against someone the gov't doesn't like.

    Let's say you do something to piss some mucky-muck off and you get on the monitor list. It's only a matter of time before you mention in passing that you copied a DVD or any other heinous crime and bingo! The FBI/Federal marshals/etc are at your door.

    Paranoid? I grew up in a communist state. I hate to think I've escaped to one, too....

  5. Re:The Constitution... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    email? Does anybody think that email is private? It is sent in clear text so I would say that it is as private as a postcard.

    As I say in every discussion of this nature, "private" in the sense of "can a police officer legally look at this and use it as evidence?" is completely different than in the sense of "could a malicious person who wanted to snoop on what I was saying possibly look at this, the law be damned?"

    E-mail is about as physically private as a letter. They are fairly trivial to read but it does require you take take deliberate action to do so. As opposed to a post card which could literally fall out of the postman's hand text-up and be read by accident, other people's emails don't just randomly show up on your screen even if you are an email server sysadmin.

    And thanks to recent precedent email is becoming -legally- as private as a letter. Which to repeat, is a different standard, and regardless of the fact that letters are easy to read, they are still considered private. So while a malicious mail man could read your mail whenever they chose, a cop who wanted their evidence to stand up at trial could not without a warrant.

    We need to remember both of these. First if you want real privacy even from malicious people, you need to encrypt your email. Second, we still need to keep unencrypted email to be legally private, since otherwise the idea is that if the police -can- read your encrypted emails then they don't count as private and thus no warrant is needed.

    There is an election coming soon. So for those that really fear this find out where the candidates stand on it.
    Then vote.
    BTW don't focus so much on the President BTW take a hard look at your congressional reps.


    True that. Sadly enough it's hard enough to get specific answers on what the Presidential candidates' stances are on the subject, much less all the representatives.

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