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Y2K38 Watch Starts Saturday

Jon Masters writes "I just wanted to remind everyone that Saturday, January 19th 2008 will mark the beginning of the 30-year countdown to the Y2K38 bug, when Unix time will overflow 32 bits. Some 30-year loan calculation software might start having problems with this over the weekend."

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  1. Hmmmmmm by LithiumX · · Score: 1, Funny

    I spell profits on the wind...

    *sniffs himself*

    Yeah, it's the wind.

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    1. Re:Hmmmmmm by nullCRC · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, that was me. Sorry.

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    2. Re:Hmmmmmm by PReDiToR · · Score: 2, Funny

      He who denied it ... Supplied it.

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  2. I can't wait! by ucblockhead · · Score: 5, Funny

    I plan on making a mint using my mad C skillz in 2036 and 2037, just like all those Cobol guys who came out of retirement in 1998.

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    1. Re:I can't wait! by lawn.ninja · · Score: 2, Funny

      good luck with that. John Titor already solved the problem when he came back in his GE206 Temporal Displacement Unit to pick up that IBM 5100. Duh.

  3. Now if I can find a bank open on Saturday by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can get a thirty-year $250,000 loan with monthly payments of -$1,200.

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    1. Re:Now if I can find a bank open on Saturday by risk+one · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just hope they're using signed ints to store that value.

    2. Re:Now if I can find a bank open on Saturday by bee-17 · · Score: 4, Funny
      Just today in the mail, I got a letter from Countrywide pitching a home loan:

      YOUR ESTIMATED EQUITY MAY BE AS MUCH AS $-48,331

      Coincidence?

    3. Re:Now if I can find a bank open on Saturday by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just hope they're using signed ints to store that value.

      Actually, I think they use floats. See, I wrote this program to - everytime there is a transaction where interest is computed, and there are millions a day, this program rounds it down to the nearest cent and puts the remainder in an account...

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  4. 30 years? by Hatta · · Score: 4, Funny

    Remind me again when it's 30 minutes.

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  5. maybe vba has a chance to live then by circletimessquare · · Score: 1, Funny

    as vba doesn't have this limitation like that child's toy they call unix

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    1. Re:maybe vba has a chance to live then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      wow. your an idiot.

      but then again you already knew that!

    2. Re:maybe vba has a chance to live then by ari_j · · Score: 4, Funny

      The phrase "your an idiot" is one of my favorites almost in the English language.

    3. Re:maybe vba has a chance to live then by Allnighterking · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why does it always have to be my an idiot, Why can't it for once be someone else's an idiot. I keep my an idiot clean, it doesn't talk out of turn or make rude noises. But everyone just likes to pick on my an idiot.

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  6. Envy by argmanah · · Score: 5, Funny

    I envy the programmers who had the foresight to program their application using a 2 digit year field. They won't have to worry have to worry about this problem until 2099, and by then we won't be using the same systems we do today anyways!

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  7. Sounds good to me by edwardpickman · · Score: 2, Funny

    So long as it wipes out my 30 year loan I don't have a problem here. Now if we can get this to work on my five year car loan......

  8. January 19, 2038 by Malevolent+Tester · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is this going to affect the Duke Nukem Forever release?

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  9. Not that big a problem by nog_lorp · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, applications that use dates ~26+ years ahead may have trouble, but nothing else will, since the world is going to end on 2012!

  10. Re:The answer is 64! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean upgrading to a 64bit cpu won't fix all the bugs in my code? The horror!

  11. Unix is made of *FAIL* by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2, Funny

    VMS has been Y10K-compliant for over a decade.

    1. Re:Unix is made of *FAIL* by WilliamSChips · · Score: 5, Funny

      As a coincidence, nobody has actually used VMS in over a decade.

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  12. No by Weaselmancer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just the Linux port of it.

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  13. Re:My date of birth by scaverdilly · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, but 1234567890 comes just short of Feb 14th in a year (Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:31:30 UTC).
    It just goes to show that true geeks will only ever almost get close enough to women for romanitc encounters.

  14. Re:2038!?!! by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yep it is last my retirment date as well.
    Doesn't matter since I hard code all my programs to fail on my 70th birthday anyway.
    Just kidding.

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  15. I don't give a shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't give a shit. And I mean that in the most literal, non-idiomatic way. If I had a pile of turds in my back yard, and you were to walk up to me and say, "Excuse me, sir, if you would let me relieve you of one of these useless pieces of feces I could guarantee a resolution to the Y2K38 computer issue," I would simply reply, "I'm sorry, but those are my shits, and I'm not giving one."

    1. Re:I don't give a shit by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't give a shit. And I mean that in the most literal, non-idiomatic way. If I had a pile of turds in my back yard, and you were to walk up to me and say, "Excuse me, sir, if you would let me relieve you of one of these useless pieces of feces I could guarantee a resolution to the Y2K38 computer issue," I would simply reply, "I'm sorry, but those are my shits, and I'm not giving one."

      You are clearly a person who has their shit together.

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  16. Re:And other things.. by moderatorrater · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, kind of like how Christ was born so close to the changeover from BC to AD.

  17. It's a non issue. by Higaran · · Score: 2, Funny

    The mayan calendar ends in 2011 or 2012, I cant remember off the top of my head, so thats supposed to be the end of the world from what conspiary theoriests say, so that means the world will end 20+ years before this ever happens, so who cares ;)

  18. Re:And other things.. by Bob-taro · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can come up with any number of numerological associations for any event. Seriously. Try it some time. Pick any event, and you can come up with a dozen, if you try.

    Really?! So there are always at least 12 numerological associations with every event in history?! OMG, I'm totally freaking out!!!11!1!

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  19. Re:2038!?!! by mwburden · · Score: 4, Funny

    At least until your pacemaker calculates that it doesn't need to beat again for 30 years....

  20. Re:2048 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your mom stores years as 11-bit integers.

  21. Re:And other things.. by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can come up with any number of numerological associations for any event. Seriously. Try it some time. Pick any event, and you can come up with a dozen, if you try.

    Interesting that of all the numbers you could have mentioned, you just happened to pick dozen: the number of eggs that are most often sold together. This suggests you are a chicken farmer. Your uid is another clue: 853723. 8+5+3+7+2+3=28. 28 % 12 = 4, which happens to be your comment's score at the time I type this. 853723 %12 = 7. You bring your eggs to market every week.

    Look at all I have learned about you. And you think numerology doesn't work.

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  22. Re:And other things.. by Skreems · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ah, but 172800 seconds is significant. 1+7+2+8+0+0 = 18, which is (9*1)+(9*1), which is 9(1+1). 9/11!

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  23. Re:Incorrect.... by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 5, Funny

    In any case, fixing the basis library and recompileing is enough for properly implemented software.

    Whew! It's a good thing most software is properly implemented, then.

  24. Whew! Good thing everyone uses Windows! by davido42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why would anyone be using an OS written for scientists? They're all weird and stuff.

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  25. Re:And other things.. by halber_mensch · · Score: 3, Funny

    You can come up with any number of numerological associations for any event. Seriously. Try it some time. Pick any event, and you can come up with a dozen, if you try.

    Interesting that of all the numbers you could have mentioned, you just happened to pick dozen: the number of eggs that are most often sold together. This suggests you are a chicken farmer. Your uid is another clue: 853723. 8+5+3+7+2+3=28. 28 % 12 = 4, which happens to be your comment's score at the time I type this. 853723 %12 = 7. You bring your eggs to market every week.

    Look at all I have learned about you. And you think numerology doesn't work.

    You forgot the most obvious - 853723: 8 + 5 + 3 + 7 = 23. This chicken farmer has a name: Topsy Kretts. Watch out!

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  26. Re:My date of birth by Compholio · · Score: 2, Funny

    [My date of birth] Is 123456789, Unix time. No shit. 29 Nov 1973. Guess I'm a confirmed geek then?
    I'm sure your mom appreciates that just as much as having you at 11:30 PM GMT.
  27. Re:My date of birth by choongiri · · Score: 2, Funny

    My birthday is January 19th. Does that mean I'm going to expire due to some kind of horrible fatal error on my 57th birthday?

  28. Re:And other things.. by STrinity · · Score: 2, Funny

    I always found it interesting that 1 billion seconds happened 2 days before 9/11.
    I don't get it. What's the significance of 111011100110101100101000000000 binary seconds?
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  29. IRA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah my wife contributes to the IRA through some guy called Charles Schwab. I am surprised that guy hasn't been sent to Gitmo for funding a terrorist organisation.

  30. Re:My date of birth by cashman73 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Holy shit! That's the same combination that I have on my luggage! =)

  31. slow news day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Another kdawson special. Thanks for keeping us fed, even if its from the bottom of the barrel.

  32. Re:And other things.. by Tango42 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Has your tin foil hat slipped?

  33. Re:And other things.. by JonathanR · · Score: 5, Funny

    The instruction at 0x49790053 referenced memory at 0x49790053.
    The memory could not be read.
    Click OK to terminate the program.
  34. Re:And other things.. by Carnildo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Really?! So there are always at least 12 numerological associations with every event in history?! OMG, I'm totally freaking out!!!12!12!


    There, fixed that for you.
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  35. Re:And other things.. by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 5, Funny

    And of course "12" is composed of the digits 1 and 2.
    1+1=2
    1*2=2
    2/1=2
    1+2=1
    2^1=2
    What does this all add up to...?
    9
    But don't forgot...
    9 + 1*2 = 11
    Who has a UID with 9 as it's most common digit?! Bob-taro!!
    Whose UID without the 9s = 6+8+8 = 22, That's TWO 2s. 22 divided by 2...you guessed it... 11.
    That's right...9...11. 9/11!!!
    Who had the most to gain from 9/11?! Bob-taro!!
    Who brought down the towers?! Bob-taro!!
    Who fired a cruise missile into the Pentagon!? Bob-taro!!

    And to think, Bob-taro, you almost got away with it you sneaky sonuvabitch...

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  36. Re:And other things.. by Torvaun · · Score: 5, Funny

    The most subtle part of his plan was where he changed 1+2 to equal 1.

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  37. ah poop.. by digitalbountyhunter · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does this mean I should update the firmware of my abacus? I dont think there has been an update for a few thousand years. I once used a Egyptian Firmware Patch with a Roman Abacus, and it rendered the thing unusable. Not only that, but later that week - my dog was killed my a plague of locusts.

  38. Re:And other things.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Nobody's scared of right wing wackos, like Timothy McVeigh Or Rupert Murdoch.
  39. That's just postponing the inevitable. by raehl · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fortunately 64-bit numbers can now be handled by pcs, and can be used as an extended timestamp to get a few billion years of time.

    Sure, we could to that, but then even if we use an unsigned number, we're still just going to be fucked again in AD 584,542,050,060.

    And, by the way, 5+8+4+5+4+2+5+6 = 39, which is the number of weeks in a human pregnancy, which means the 2nd coming of Christ and the apocalypse.

    All because programmers were too lazy to use 128-bit numbers to represent dates.

  40. Re:And other things.. by DiscipleN2k · · Score: 2, Funny

    When I type "7/7" into Google, Google tells me it's "1"

    Then it goes on to mention something about a bombing in London.

  41. Re:And other things.. by Schemat1c · · Score: 2, Funny

    When I type "7/7" into Google, Google tells me it's "1" Strange because when I typed it I got this. Maybe you are using a different Google.
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  42. Re:Why is this a problem? by serialdogma · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's not his fault, he was using an Pentium.

  43. Re:WTF are you talking about? by el_gordo101 · · Score: 2, Funny

    So the bank will be trying to foreclose on you for being 100+ years late on your last payment before you are scheduled to make your first. Awesome!

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