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News Of SETI Signal Just Bad Reporting

The Bad Astronomer writes "Rumors have been flying in recent days that the SETI project has received a strong signal from space, indicating the possibility of intelligent extraterrestrial life. Bad Astronomy breaks down the origins of this (false) claim, which mostly amounts to a heaping helping of shoddy journalism. 'I just talked to Dan Wertheimer, the astronomer quoted in the article. He told me that the original interview was about sending signals into space (so-called active SETI) as opposed to just listening for aliens. After the interview, he talked to the reporter about some of the astronomy he does, including looking at what are called radio transients: bursts of radio waves that are seen once and never repeat. These may come from one-off events like colliding neutron stars, exploding stars, and so on. Somehow, in the article the reporter mixed up the observation of the transient signals with detecting a signal from E.T.'"

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  1. Re:Incompetence by Stanistani · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had a brief stint as a journalist - I always repeated back to my sources what I understood them to mean.

    They often corrected me.

    When I did a feature on a person, even a critical piece, I would send a draft to them before I submitted the article - usually there were no corrections - but when there were - they were vital.

  2. Pay no attention to the sig by techpawn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Mr. Harley: Your impatience is quite understandable.
    Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
    Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry... I wish it were otherwise.

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    Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country did to you
    1. Re:Pay no attention to the sig by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I hate that fucking movie.

      Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.

      You mean stupidity like walking up to a line of nervous soldiers (members of a hostile race you have supposedly studied) pointing guns at him, pointing a tube at their leader and then having it quickly sproing out pointy appendages without warning? In reality he wouldn't have had one bullet grazing him. It owuld be 5000 of them completely ventilating his goofy looking spacesuit and any judge in that galaxy would rule it a justified homicide.

      Oh, and how about the whole "if your leaders, a tiny percentage of humanity, don't shape up, we'll incinerate the entire Earth, thus destroying uncounted innocent along with every other species that has nothing to do with this, and a precious, rare, 4 billion year old biosphere."

      And forget the whole "we willingly bend over for our robot overlords" thing. If they aren't stupid, why do they need an army of MechanoMonsters policing them?

      It's just not the classic people make it out to be.

      Anyway, the whole movie was just a dumb Jesus analogy. The screenwriter even admits it.

      I once sketched out a remake of that film. The Army Corps of Engineers manages to pwn Gort with a rocket boosted B-52 dropped from low Earth orbit, and then we send Klaatu and his fascist alien bully boys packing.

  3. Re:Next assignment by Pojut · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I was 16 (I'm 23 now) I did a one year stint in a McDonalds. I don't know if it's the same now as it was then, but when I was working there the boxes that the meat came in were all stamped USDA Grade A Beef. The problem is that for potential lawsuit reasons, McDonalds cooks all it's burgers to well done. When I worked there, for my dinner I would make one medium rare. This will sound crazy, but when they are cooked right (at least back then...again, don't know if this applies now) it made for one of the best burgers I've had anywhere.

    The beef is actually very high quality...it just gets cooked into oblivion (and cooked very quickly, at that...from walk-in refrigerator to ready-for-burger in about a minute and a half...not the best of ways to cook meat if taste is of any concern.)

  4. What really bothers me about this by Phylarr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is that you know the reporter will keep his job. If you're dumb enough to misinterpret by that degree the words that someone spoke to you, then you should have no job reporting on anything.

    The article actually contained the sentence "Across the globe, researchers searching for signs of life in space were abuzz this week with word that a mystery signal has been picked up by a giant radio-telescope in Puerto Rico."

    This was not just a science neophyte failing to understand big sciency words, this was a reporter blatantly making shit up.

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    "Choosing to refrain from producing another person demonstrates a profound love for all life" [vhemt.org]
  5. poor reporting shouldn't be tolerated by Gearoid_Murphy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    reporters should be made accountable for their actions, so often, when disscussing a particular scientific subject, reporters discuss the mainstream view and for good measure bring in this bearded nutcase to discuss his highly controversial but completely improbable take on the situation. To the layman (or woman), this would appear the such a view point is equally as valid as the mainstream view. Take for example global warming, a touchy subject at the best of times. For many years, the vast majority of the scientific community have agreed with the observations and conclusions with respect to the increasing temperatures and our CO2 pollution. However, news reporters always, and I mean always, included a reference to the lone few individuals who thought otherwise. This might be down to journalistic traditions which seek to examine all view points but when it comes to accurately portraying the true state of the science, it is grossly distorted.

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    prepare the survey weasels.
  6. No wonder by Jabbrwokk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I did a feature on a person, even a critical piece, I would send a draft to them before I submitted the article - usually there were no corrections - but when there were - they were vital. No offence, but no wonder your stint was brief. The journalist's job is to get it right the first time, or ask for clarification during the interview. You get one chance to get it right when it goes to print.

    This is sometimes extremely difficult because when you are a journalist, if you make mistakes, they end up in print for everyone to see, with your name attached. But it's better to make mistakes, and correct them in humility, than to let your source write your story for you.

    I've worked as a journalist for nearly seven years, and I've made some doozie mistakes, and corrected them. But I have never let a source control my story. And you know what? I've never had one refuse to be interviewed again, even if the story was critical of them. The most I will do is read back their quotes to them, and tell them in what light I am presenting them. But giving them editorial control over your story is a bad idea.

    One last thing - the SETI reporter made a big, stupid mistake. It's a good thing the summaries around here are always so accurate, isn't it?
    1. Re:No wonder by Stanistani · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I never let a source control my story - but I did let them know what was coming, and give them their shot at refuting my findings.

      One of my stories generated hundreds of hate emails to the subject, and he couldn't really deny any of the allegations in my article.

      I moved on to a better-paid job - I wasn't discharged.

      I did enjoy my employment, despite inverted pyramid leads and such.

  7. Re:Must be aliens by dtml-try+MyNick · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've often wondered what would happen if it somehow get's out to the public that we have received a signal from a alien origin.

    If, big if, we can somehow manage to prove without any doubt that some other species in space has sent a signal or message. I think it would/could be very beneficial to the human race.
    It could raise the awareness that the individual human is a almost meaningless small part of the universe, it would raise global thinking and consciousness. No more this is my land but this is our world instead. Religions could be tossed away, or at least all the "holy" texts would have to be rewritten thoroughly, God created 'our race'... history!, God created mankind and those other guys out there.

    The two biggest reasons for humans to wage war on each other would be almost assimilated.

    Of course, this would never happen, religious and political leaders would go mental since that would be the biggest threat to their power ever. Instead they would try to frighten us, OBL was a pussy, Zergia from planet666 is the new enemy.

    But hey, a man can still have his dreams right?

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    Life starts at the end of your comfort zone.