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Green Light for Human/Animal Hybrids

Henneshoe writes "BBC News is reporting that two research facilities have been given the green light to create part human, part animal embryos. According the the report, 'Scientists want to create hybrid embryos by merging human cells with animal eggs in a bid to extract stem cells. The embryos would then be destroyed within 14 days.' The decision to allow the embryos was made after research showed that people in large are OK with the idea."

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  1. people in large are OK by KillerCow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The decision to allow the embryos was made after research showed that people in large are OK with the idea


    I am glad that we are trusting the unwashed masses to make important technical decisions that they know nothing about. If Britney says it's safe, then it must be. God bless Democracy.

    I, for one, welcome our species hopping virus overlords.
    1. Re:people in large are OK by SharpFang · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem is that the scientific community is usually OK with the idea. They know the limits and the problems best, and know how far they can move ahead without doing something that would make them avoid looking in the mirror.

      It's the "unwashed masses" that protest most - people with no clue, no understanding, loaded with prejudices and unwilling to learn - and they can be a serious roadblock. After all, a vote of a scientist is worth the same as a vote of a redneck, but there's 1000 rednecks for each scientist, so let's follow the voice of the majority!

      Only if most people are OK with given idea, the lawmakers are willing to give green light to the scientists to progress.

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  2. Awww... by pla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The embryos would then be destroyed within 14 days.

    So, anyone else consider that the single most dissapointing part of this?

    They'd almost certainly not live long enough to ever call them infants, but even in the steps they do last through, we could learn so much by watching how they develop differently from either human or other-half embryos.

    And if they actually lived to term, well, I would consider their cognitive develpment nothing short of fascinating to observe.

  3. Re:Public Permission? by Surt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The only reason for these bodies to exist is to make sure the peasants don't care enough to pick up their pitchforks. If the peasants don't care, the research proceeds. If the peasants are pissed off, public education campaigns occur first.

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  4. Re:Green light for animal cruelty by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is animal cruelty, plain and simple.

    Because 14-day-old embryos have such well-developed nervous systems that they can appreciate (nevermind even "experience") pain?



    Do you know how many embryos are going to be destroyed

    No. Do you?

    More importantly - So what? At that stage of life, you have organic scum in a tube. What it could someday turn into has no relevance to its status at that developmental level.



    There are better ways to get stem cells people.

    Yes - Yes, we do indeed have better ways. But the goddamned fundies don't seem inclined to let us use the numerous extra embryos from human fertility therapies (nevermind abortions), so we need to find new, even more absurd, ways to get them.

  5. Re:How is this better? by Surt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A significant number of the religious fundies would say that a half human monster thing cannot have a soul, so you get a big win over the pure human when you kill it (note that most fundies are not vegetarians, for example, and are perfectly ok with killing animals for research).

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  6. Re:Planet of the Apes by tlon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Human-Roach Hybrid - Don't they call that "Lawyer"?

  7. Re:Public Permission? by Chandon+Seldon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The only reason for these bodies to exist is to make sure the peasants don't care enough to pick up their pitchforks. If the peasants don't care, the research proceeds. If the peasants are pissed off, public education campaigns occur first.

    In a perfect world, maybe.

    Back in the real world, enough irrational protest can prevent valuable research from occurring - and leave the related commercial sector scraping by with dysfunctional, archaic, and dangerous technology. For a good example, see nuclear power in the USA.

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  8. Re:I can hear the excuses already... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Your Honour, I was just working on creating a Human/Sheep hybrid."
    This is one area the governments of the world would love to see success. They have been trying to turn people into sheep for untold millenia, to varying degrees of success.
  9. Validates the Religious Right by goldspider · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Remember how everyone said "Aww shucks! We're just going to use cloning for stem cell research! We'd NEVER do anything funky like crossing humans and animals!" in response to cloning critics?

    Well now those critics have been validated, and the Religious Right has more ammunition with which they can stall actual valid medical research.

    This is what unrestrained morbid curiosity gets you. Too bad productive science as a whole has to suffer.

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  10. Re:Public Permission? by ranton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe because the peasants are helping to pay for it?

    Public money spent on things the public wants is what charity organizations are for. Spending money on things for the good of the people, but that is something the average person wouldnt want to pay for himself, is what the government is for.

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  11. There already are UK furry conventions by greenreaper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There already are two furry conventions in the UK - RBW and ConFuzzled. See the furry convention map for more worldwide.

  12. Re:How is this better? by DigitalReverend · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a student of theology I might be able to shed some light on this.

    In the eyes of religion, the human egg and the human sperm are considered potential humans, even more so when joined. Hence the reason it is considered sinful when a man "spills his seed".

    Except for the reproductive cells, any other human cell cannot be considered a potential human, therefore using some skin cells and implanting them in a cow egg and aborting the fetus after 14 days would not be considered human abortion.

    Basically this is a loophole around the whole ethics thing as long as the fetus is terminated. A whole new bag of worms is waiting to be opened if one of those embryos goes to term and a 8lb 10oz bouncing blue eyed huvine (boman?) is born.

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  13. Re:I'm no ultra conservative... by c6gunner · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I am not comfortable with humanity taking such reckless leaps without even a clue of what the possible consequences are. Our society has become one of instant gratification
    Yes, because all those past, wise societies, spent SO much time thinking about the possible consequences of inventing the space shuttle, the atomic bomb, airplanes, ships, siege weapons, vaccines, indoor plumbing, the wheel, and fire.

    I'll never understand this sort of mindset. If it were up to you, we'd still be painting mammoths on cave walls, and you'd be bitching about this new-fangled "art" thing, too.