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AOL Adopting Jabber (XMPP)

sander writes to tell us that AOL seems to have decided to make their AIM and ICQ services compatible with XMPP. A test server is up at xmpp.oscar.aol.com, and while it's still buggy most major Jabber clients seem to work.

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  1. Re:Address format? by stu42j · · Score: 3, Informative

    From the screen shots, it looks like: 798221@aol.com and bob@aol.com

  2. Re:Client only, or S2S as well? by rabbit994 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, GTalk was closed for a few months and then they opened it up for S2S. In Fact, I talk to all my friends on GTALK via S2S from personal XMPP (Jabber) server.

    They are not even publishing the correct DNS SRV records yet for AOL.

    > _jabber._tcp.aol.com

    *** dnsserver can't find _jabber._tcp.aol.com: Non-existent domain
    > _xmpp-client._tcp.aol.com

    *** dnsserver can't find _xmpp-client._tcp.aol.com: Non-existent domain
    > _xmpp-server._tcp.aol.com

    *** dnsserver can't find _xmpp-server._tcp.aol.com: Non-existent domain

  3. Re:but......why? by premchai21 · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is such a record in the case of Jabber; it uses the SRV record type. For instance:

    $ host -t SRV _xmpp-server._tcp.gmail.com
    _xmpp-server._tcp.gmail.com SRV 20 0 5269 xmpp-server1.l.google.com
    _xmpp-server._tcp.gmail.com SRV 20 0 5269 xmpp-server2.l.google.com
    _xmpp-server._tcp.gmail.com SRV 20 0 5269 xmpp-server3.l.google.com
    _xmpp-server._tcp.gmail.com SRV 20 0 5269 xmpp-server4.l.google.com
    _xmpp-server._tcp.gmail.com SRV 5 0 5269 xmpp-server.l.google.com
    $ host -t SRV _xmpp-client._tcp.gmail.com
    _xmpp-client._tcp.gmail.com SRV 20 0 5222 talk2.l.google.com
    _xmpp-client._tcp.gmail.com SRV 20 0 5222 talk3.l.google.com
    _xmpp-client._tcp.gmail.com SRV 20 0 5222 talk4.l.google.com
    _xmpp-client._tcp.gmail.com SRV 5 0 5222 talk.l.google.com
    _xmpp-client._tcp.gmail.com SRV 20 0 5222 talk1.l.google.com

  4. Re:Pundits, please speak up by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 3, Informative

    It means that theverylastaoluser@aol.com (seriously, who uses it anymore?) can now IM to smartpeople@gmail.com, and vice versa.

    A longer explanation: IM has, historically, been a walled garden. That is, if you have MSN Messenger (or "Windows Messenger"), I need to have MSN Messenger in order to IM you. If I have Yahoo Messenger, we can't communicate.

    There are ways around this, none of them very good. You could just install Yahoo Messenger also, and AIM, and that will cover almost everyone. (Almost -- there's still Gadu-Gadu, WinPopup, Groupwise, ICQ, IRC...)

    IRC is a bit better, actually, because at least there's a standard protocol. Anyone can setup an IRC server, or write their own IRC client. If you're on Windows, you can just download mIRC and connect to anyone. (I like irssi on Linux and MacIRSSI on OS X.) But it's still a walled garden, in that you can't connect to EFnet and talk to people -- in rooms or in private messages -- who are on DALnet. (Or Freenode, or...)

    But not everything is a walled garden. Email, for instance -- anyone can register a domain, setup a mailserver, and provide email for themselves, for friends, or for money. If you're a poor sap who has an @aol.com email address, I don't have to do anything special to be able to send mail to you from my @gmail.com address, or from my own domain.

    All it takes for email to work is a domain name and a mailserver. And a mailserver can be any computer that's online all the time. Not that I recommend doing it yourself, just saying that email is wholly and completely democratized.

    Well, that's what Jabber/XMPP is all about. Not only is the chat/IM protocol open, but Jabber servers can be configured to talk to other Jabber servers -- to arbitrarily connect to each other. So you can be on AOL Instant Messenger, and I can be on Google Talk, but we can add each other to our buddy lists and communicate. Not because there's any kind of big deal with AOL and Google, but because they both speak Jabber. And like email, I can setup my own Jabber server.

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  5. Re:What about Jingle? by BitZtream · · Score: 3, Informative
    From the web page:

    Jingle is an extension to the Jabber/XMPP protocol, to allow for peer-to-peer (p2p) signalling for multimedia interactions such as voice or video. It was designed by Google and the XMPP Standards Foundation. The multimedia content itself can be delivered using the Real-time Transport Protocol, with Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) for NAT traversal. As of January 26 2007, the Jingle standards are marked as being experimental, meaning that it has not yet been approved by the XMPP Standards Foundation.
    ... what that means is ... it is the standard for voice of XMPP is just not 100% locked in stone yet.
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