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FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE Now Available

cperciva writes "FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE, the fourth release from the highly successful 6-STABLE branch of FreeBSD development, has been released. In addition to being available from many FTP sites, ISO images can be downloaded via the BitTorrent tracker, or for users of earlier FreeBSD releases, FreeBSD Update can be used to perform a binary upgrade."

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  1. Wait, what? by Seumas · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought BSD was dying? I've been on Slashdot for a decade and I precisely recall hearing that BSD was dying a few hundred thousand times.

    1. Re:Wait, what? by mdenham · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It still is. In the same fashion any of the rest of us without a terminal illness are.

    2. Re:Wait, what? by jd · · Score: 4, Funny

      You see, if it dies more than 32767 times, you get an overflow, the sign bit flips and it becomes alive again. This is the problem with using fixed-length integers. If computers were using variable-length precision, you wouldn't get this problem.

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    3. Re:Wait, what? by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I thought BSD was dying? It is dying. Just like this is the 10th consecutive Year of Linux.
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    4. Re:Wait, what? by hey! · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, the most likely explanation woudl seem to be that BSD has joined the ranks of undead operating systems.

      So while it cannot be said in strict truth to be "alive and kicking", it nonetheless is still "kicking", and will continue to do so until somebody can devise the operating system equivalent of a wooden stake through the heart.

      That'd be something involving unresolved intellectual property rights, I suppose, although there is little chance at this late date that might happen. If vampires could only be killed by wood from the descendants of a particular tree, they could breath, er rest easily once that line was extinct.

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  2. Yes sirree... by dosius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    BSD is alive and well!

    -uso.

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  3. Dedicated to Itojun by gertam · · Score: 5, Informative

    The release is dedicated to Dr. Jun-ichiro Hagino, known throughout the Internet community as itojun. He did lots of important work on the IPv6 protocol through the KAME project, and made many other contributions to the Internet and BSD communities.

  4. A very niche OS by slashuzer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is good to see FreeBSD keep on going, but I cannot help but feel that all BSDs, to some extent, have become a very niche, and bit of a dead-end OS. Today if someone wants to move away from windows, they can go to Linux (free) or Mac (not-free). Aside from server space, what does BSD bring to the average desktop user? Let's just say I want to move to a free OS, what exactly does FreeBSD offer that is not already available with any number of Linux distributions? And what purpose do two similar OS (Linux, BSD) serve when they pretty much appeal to the same segment of computer users. Truly, sometimes I wonder if it might not be better to have *one* OSS alternative to Windows instead of having the developer resources working on two, parallel, different-under-the-surface-but-similar-in-usage operating systems .

    1. Re:A very niche OS by 0x000000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      FreeBSD brings a stable OS to the desktop user. Since both userland and kernel are in the same source tree, and are developed concurrently, any changes in the kernel will be immediately reflected in the userland utilities. What does this mean? Well, if I upgrade my kernel and my world, I will know that I always have a perfectly functioning system. It takes the guess work out of upgrades.

      Besides that? I find that it is more consistent. If you move from one Linux distribution to another, you need to go hunting for the configuration files, they are not in a set location as specified by man hier. I know that when I install something from the ports tree, the configuration files can always be found in /usr/local/etc/, which is a nice change from having to hunt in /var/www/httpd for Apache's configuration file and /opt/etc/ for the dhcp servers config file.

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    2. Re:A very niche OS by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Interesting

      1) *BSD isn't encumbered by politics (or at leat the same set of politics). ZFS will be a part of FreeBSD while goldilocks and the 3 hippies argue over whether it's too FREE or not FREE enough.

      2) They don't appeal to the same segment of computer users. "Linux is for people that hate windows. BSD is for people that love UNIX". If you look at the commandline utilites, BSD distros maintain them, they're consistent, and the man pages are up to date. Linux distros are a hodgepodge from various sources. It's a good thing they're open source because the man page is probably non existant or hopelessly out of date.

      3) Considering there are 4 BSDs (Open, Free, Net, and Draogfly) it seems unlikely core developers would rather be developing linux.

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    3. Re:A very niche OS by geek · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I used to be a diehard FreeBSD fan. Used it on all my servers and my desktop. I'd still use it before Linux on a server but on the desktop there just is no comparison to something like Ubuntu. The last time I installed FreeBSD on my laptop I felt I had gone back in time 10 years to 1998. Everything I wanted seemed to be a linux emulation too. That's just how I felt anyway. I love FreeBSD and always will, but they don't seem to have the focus on usability for the desktop that distros like Ubuntu have.

    4. Re:A very niche OS by jcgf · · Score: 4, Funny

      FreeBSD has the advantage of not being for bitches.

      That's the main reason I use it ;)

    5. Re:A very niche OS by setagllib · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's what PC-BSD is for. All of the FreeBSD 6 foundation you love, but with Ubuntu-like usability layered on top with minimal fuss. I have not tried it myself, but all reviews I've read are highly positive. And it's not just an Ubuntu clone either, with some innovation in integrating a new packaging system into the OS.

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    6. Re:A very niche OS by dknj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      FreeBSD is like solaris with better driver support and a robust third-party package library. If you know how to use it, its fucking solid. If you're new to the game, you will feel lost unless you pickup a good book

  5. Looking forward to 7.0 by 0x000000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am personally looking forward to 7.0 as it will bring many speed improvements and enhancements. There have been some tests done to compare FreeBSD 7 performance to FreeBSD 6, and the gains are impressive.

    FreeBSD 6.3 for me and my servers will be the last update to the series before switching over to the new hopefully soon to be released 7.0. My suggestion for anyone planning on trying FreeBSD out after having heard about this new release, grab whatever the latest RC disc is of 7.0 and play with that. There is practically no difference between the two, when it comes to userland and will make it easier to stay up to date by already being being on the right branch.

    I definitely need to check out freebsd-update. See if it can be used in our systems to keep them up to date, with less down time than using the rebuild world and kernel steps that we take currently.

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    1. Re:Looking forward to 7.0 by kace · · Score: 5, Informative

      There have been some tests done to compare FreeBSD 7 performance to FreeBSD 6, and the gains are impressive.

      See these slides by Kris Kennaway for more details on that.

  6. It's a distro. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What you've just described is exactly what any modern distro worth its salt does.

    Any changes in kernel are immediately reflected in userland utilities -- check. Not "immediately" as in "the day they're released" -- more like, by the time they hit your distro's repository, they generally work together. Any "guesswork" at that point is a bug.

    Consistency is also a feature of the distribution, not the OS. Gentoo might have stuff in a different place than Ubuntu, but Ubuntu has everything in the same place as Ubuntu. Your comment would mean more if you said that FreeBSD had everything the same as OpenBSD and NetBSD, but in any case, I find any BSD (including OS X) to have a number of quirks in the commandline utilities that are unique to *BSD, and do not show up on Linux.

    So, another way of looking at it is that FreeBSD is as consistent as, say, Ubuntu, with regards to itself. But Ubuntu is more consistent with the majority of *nix distros, by user or by kind, mostly because Linux has more users and distros than anything else.

    Your example of having to hunt for config files in /var/www/httpd is a bit disingenuous -- or at least, I've never used a good distro that had Apache's configuration anywhere other than /etc/httpd or /etc/apache, or some variant thereof (like /etc/apache2) -- in any case, easily something I'd expect to find with tab-completion. Same with dhcp servers -- unless I installed a really strange one, it's going to be somewhere in /etc/dhcpd, or it's going to be named after the particular dhcp server (like /etc/dnsmasq).

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  7. Re:Well, this is slashdot after all by kace · · Score: 2, Funny

    So I take it that 2008 will be the Year of the BSD Desktop?

    I'm thinking yes and hell yes. PC-BSD is going to be carried in Fry's and Microcenter (for starters).

    And, whenever one is choosing an OS, even for the desktop, you've got consider what sort of crowd you'll be getting mixed up with.

    "Unleash your desktop with PC-BSD!"

  8. Re:better engineered? by RLiegh · · Score: 2, Informative

    No...BSD is better engineered because it's .... (wait for it) .... engineered . Linux is just a kernel with a bunch of separately developed utilities strung together -no real coordination, no real direction.

  9. Re:better engineered? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Informative

    You misunderstand engineering. Here's an example. How do you get the CPU speed from the kernel? In all of the BSD family there is a single sysctl that you call and it gives you the answer, irrespective of the architecture. On Linux, the answer is in /proc/cpuinfo. This is a plain-text file, so you need to read it and parse it. It gets better though; the format of this file is different on different architectures; write code to parse it on x86, and it won't work on PowerPC. The main job of the kernel is to present programmers with an abstraction so that they don't have to know about the underlying architecture, and Linux fails miserably at this.

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