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First Evidence Of Under-Ice Volcanoes In Antarctica

An anonymous reader writes "The first evidence of a volcanic eruption from beneath Antarctica's ice sheet has been discovered by members of the British Antarctic Survey. The volcano on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet began erupting some 2,000 years ago and remains active to this day. Using airborne ice-sounding radar, scientists discovered a layer of ash produced by a 'subglacial' volcano. It extends across an area larger than Wales."

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  1. And here by AndGodSed · · Score: 5, Funny

    everyone was blaming global warming for the melting of the icecaps...

    1. Re:And here by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "everyone was blaming global warming for the melting of the icecaps..."

      ...when really it was...what? - An Antartic volcano melting the Artic sea ice?

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  2. Larger than a whale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Then that really is a mighty volcano! What next, a volcano with an area larger than 100 elephants?

    1. Re:Larger than a whale? by 0a100b · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm not familiar with the Imperial system. Can somebody tell me how many Kazakhstans this volcano measures?

    2. Re:Larger than a whale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm pretty sure there are 15 Millihelens per Kazakhstan. Also, 2 Whales per Rosie O'Donnell.

      Remember, when working with imperial units, it's important to keep this distinction in mind: a keg of beer is half a barrel, but not just any barrel.

    3. Re:Larger than a whale? by stereoroid · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, like we didn't see that one coming... still, it's got some way to go before it's as big as Wales' head - Prince Charles of Wales, that is.

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  3. Volcanos elsewhere... by psychicsword · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are thousands of volcanoes elsewhere on the globe I don't see why antarctic would be any different. I understand before we never had any proof and that is why it is news but I wouldn't say it is Earth shaking news.

  4. How long? by neokushan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How long before people start claiming these as being the source of the melting ice caps?

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    1. Re:How long? by jaxtherat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, Monday January 21, @08:20PM according to the first post...

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    2. Re:How long? by Charcharodon · · Score: 3, Insightful
      And has been for 2000 years, according to the summary. Why would it only begin melting in modern times, if the volcano is the cause ?

      Yeah with all that data we have colected by scientists during the days of the Roman Empire makes it easy to see those long term ice melting trends.....

      ....oh wait that's right you are a git and you are talking out your arse.

      Now for proper insults and arguments when you saying raining all the time, you haven't identified where you from. I'm assuming Europe. I've only spent a real amount of time in England, Norway, and Cyprus so my knowledge of weather is limited to those places.

      England does nothing but piss rain and rarely ever gets cold enough for snow, so you can hardly blame that on the US.

      Norwary rarely get's warm enough for anything but snow (I've only been there during the winter, froze my ass off.) so you can't be from there.

      Cyprus was nice and warm, and if that is what the world is going to be like after global warming then let's go for a drive in my SUV to go buy stuff that has alot of plastic packaging.

      The more I travel the more I realize that people are full of it, and can hardly lay all the worlds problems at the US's feet. I haven't seen anything in Europe that impresses me of your Green life style.

      You don't have any better driving habits than in the US. The only reasons you drive less (as in distance not in frequency, is your sky high taxes, shitty roads, and that you are willing to live shoulder to shoulder in town with barely any parking, is the only reason you guys drive small cars.

      Mild winters and summers also let's you off the hook for cooling and heating bills and the fact that you guys are willing to again be gouged by the utility companys. I can see why you use less. I'm still paying twice as much here in the UK (without AC) than I did while living in the California desert(with AC) which supposedly is supposed to be in the middle of a power crisis and having raised rates drastically in the last few years.

      Now the only point I'll conceed to you is the war in Iraq is pretty much a waste of time. The money would have been better spent buying everyone Priuses and solar panels for their homes and a nice candygram telling the Middle East to go fuck their mothers.

      Of course if we want to look at who has really caused all the problems in the Middle East and just about every other corner of the world all we have to do is take a look European history book. 400 years of European global policies and Empire building has made a real mess of things. The US has hardly had enough time to be blamed for much of it, but man does everyone scream bloody murder when we try to clean it up.

  5. Oh well, screw global warming by Xiph · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If volcanic activity is truly sending the glaciers into the ocean, local warming can have a real and serious effect on global climate.
    It's funny, Here in Denmark, we here alot about the potential consequences of global warming, about the millions of refugees it will create.
    Noone ever mentions that we'll probably be some of those refugees, Our tallest hill, has a height below 170,9 metres, or 560,6 feet above sealevel.

    Time for me to buy that land in south america.

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    1. Re:Oh well, screw global warming by Chrisq · · Score: 3, Informative

      Even a 1M rise is not good news for Denmark see map, or many places in the USA like New orleans or even Sacramento.

  6. And the debate continues by AndGodSed · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Okay, probably not a good thing to post so frequently BUT...

    From TFA:

    Co-author Professor David Vaughan (BAS) says,"This eruption occurred close to Pine Island Glacier on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. The flow of this glacier towards the coast has speeded up in recent decades and it may be possible that heat from the volcano has caused some of that acceleration. However, it cannot explain the more widespread thinning of West Antarctic glaciers that together are contributing nearly 0.2mm per year to sea-level rise. This wider change most probably has its origin in warming ocean waters."

    What warms the oceans? Global warming is a big buzzword today, and not without merit. I just find it interesting that there may be more possibilities out there than just "OMG we are killing the urf!"

    Nature has a role to play in this too, humans weren't around during the ice-age, if we were we would have been blamed for Global Cooling I bet...

  7. "Alien" life? by Chrisq · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One of the possibilities that this opens is that there is life that has been evolving separately from the rest of terrestrial life for millions of years. In theory life could live off the volcanic chemicals just as it does at undersea vents. This could be the really interesting part of the discovery.

  8. You missed a part of TA. by VON-MAN · · Score: 3, Informative

    it (the eruption) cannot explain the more widespread thinning of West Antarctic glaciers that together are contributing nearly 0.2mm per year to sea-level rise. This wider change most probably has its origin in warming ocean waters.
    1. Re:You missed a part of TA. by rucs_hack · · Score: 4, Insightful

      i seriously have to call bullshit on someone claiming they can measure an ocean to 0.2mm

      Yarr, it be an average, I'm sure you've heard of them. Oh yes, and 0.2mm is a pretty big number, rather easy to measure.

    2. Re:You missed a part of TA. by pnewhook · · Score: 2, Funny

      Extolling the virtues of 21th century technology has got to be up there as one of the most retarded things ever said on Slashdot.

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    3. Re:You missed a part of TA. by Shihar · · Score: 2, Informative

      You should be skeptical when someone says they can say the ocean has risen 0.2mm. If that is the only number they have given, they are liars, stupid, or both. The world's oceans might very well have risen that much, and it might very well be something you can measure. That said, I can promise that there is an uncertainty in that measurement. Someone who fails to report their level of uncertainty is either incompetent or taking you for a ride. This is why I suggest taking newspaper science with a grain of sea salt. 0.2mm with a 95% confidence of +/- 0.01m is a whole hell of a lot different from 0.2mm with a 95% confidence of +/-0.2mm.

  9. Area conversion... by Bazman · · Score: 4, Funny

    For those on the other side of the pond, the area of Wales is about that of New Jersey.

    Actually, given that they've located an area of possibly steaming ash and dust, maybe they just found New Jersey by accident.

    1. Re:Area conversion... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As volcanoes go, this rather large. I am reminded of the bit in Blue Mars where the west Antarctic ice sheet slides off the continent in a few days and global sea levels rise by six metres.

    2. Re:Area conversion... by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do you mean to say that this volcano is spewing sheep?

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  10. It's more than a possibility. by VON-MAN · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Lakes Found Under Antarctic Ice Using Space Lasers"
    http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/19/1319228&from=rss
    "Exploration of lake hidden beneath Antarctica's ice sheet begins"
    http://www.physorg.com/news119682885.html

    1. Re:It's more than a possibility. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Lakes Found Under Antarctic Ice Using Space Lasers" http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/19/1319228&from=rss
      Wow. I knew we've sent monkeys and dogs into space, but...sharks in the space program? Isn't that dangerous? What if they bite the astronauts?
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  11. i read somewhere by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Interesting

    that scandinavia is still rebounding from the loss of its ice sheet in the last ice age

    i don't know the rate, but perhaps the rising seawater and the rising land should counteract each other in scandinavia

    i'm not really being that serious, just trying to bring some good cheer to you gloomy nords ;-)

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  12. Re:Wales are not fish! by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, whales are mammals. Wales is a rugged, Klingon-speaking country in the United Kingdom.

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  13. then it's time for the danish to stop by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Funny

    considering themselves scandinavian, and start considering themselves dutch

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  14. will accelerate melting at some point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is very bad news (tm).

    There is a quite thick layer of soot and ash trapped inside the glacier. At some point when the glacier melts enough, that whole layer becomes visible and thus the reflection of sunlight from the glacier surface diminishes. And the melting speed increases dramatically. To make things worse, the layer will stay there for some time as it is bit warmer than the ice and so it bores small holes where to stay put instead of getting flushed away.

    And don't get me started on that active volcano under glacier. How it will react when the weight of the glacier eases rapidly? Possible earthquakes and that means tsunami.

    Funny thing, a Finnish author named Risto Isomäki has written a hard scifi book about the subject only couple of years ago. It's called the sands of Sarasvati.

  15. Wales, as a common unit of size!!! by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A1066484

    Wales has, for decades, been used in the UK as a standard of measurement, not just of land mass but also of population, annual rain fall, tourist numbers and exports. Every large country's size was measured in 'Wales'es. Popular media, like radio and television have used the 'Wales', mainly in news reports.

            "The Americans have invaded Vietnam. This country in south east Asia is 14 times the size of Wales."

            "The Falklands have been invaded! These disputed islands, half the size of Wales, have been sought after by the Argentine government for decades."

    etc

  16. 21th by Dr.+Cody · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wuth wong with "21th," you inthenthitiff clod!?

  17. Re:Wales? by ardle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here in my part of Papua New Guinea, a Wal-Mart is approximately 0.5M udus.
    Udu lives in the next village: he has a very flat head, therefore is an obvious unit of measurement.
    What's more, since we switched to the Udu from the Boko (Boko got arthritis, so was shrinking), our real-estate market has thrived :-)