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Apple Crippled Its DTrace Port

Linnen writes in to note that one of developers of Sun's open source system tracing tool, DTrace, has discovered that Apple crippled its port of the tool so that software like iTunes could not be traced. From Adam Leventhal's blog: "I let it run for a while, made iTunes do some work, and the result when I stopped the script? Nothing. The expensive DTrace invocation clearly caused iTunes to do a lot more work, but DTrace was giving me no output. Which started me thinking... did they? Surely not. They wouldn't disable DTrace for certain applications. But that's exactly what Apple's done with their DTrace implementation. The notion of true systemic tracing was a bit too egalitarian for their classist sensibilities..."

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  1. DRM bad, but "classist sensibilities"? by kherr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Come on, this isn't a class struggle. It's Big Business trying to protect their intellectual property. DRM sucks, this is yet another way in which it degrades computer systems. But Apple's just being a company, and their hack to DTrace is actually good coding. Dislike their choice, sure. But there's no epic struggle for humanity here.

    1. Re:DRM bad, but "classist sensibilities"? by Hsensei · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Of course if it was MS you would have you pitchfork and torch ready. I forget Jobs can do no wrong.

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    2. Re:DRM bad, but "classist sensibilities"? by Samgilljoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The struggle against corporations may be an important part of the defense of humanity, but some would argue that seemingly innocuous things are often just small, innocuous things, and that to go ape shit about them and blow them out of proportion is characteristic of small minds and spirits.

      Some would also argue that getting hung up on the small things and seeing battles to be won therein is a good way to ensure that people never take on any large and not so seemingly innocuous issues, that they self indulgently imagine themselves to be revolutionaries fighting the good fight and propagating righteous and enlightened rhetoric.

      And even if these people are totally wrong, it still doesn't excuse the ideologically loaded "classist sensibilities" bullshit. But I'm sure the original poser, err poster, feels good about his awesomeness.

    3. Re:DRM bad, but "classist sensibilities"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Good coding my ass.

      It BREAKS dtrace.

      If iTunes happens to be the process interrupted to run the dtrace probe, that flag being set prevents the probe from running.

    4. Re:DRM bad, but "classist sensibilities"? by dcollins · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Completely disagree.

      "Apple's just being a company" = "Class struggle"

      The fact that there are two classes of legally recognized entities, with competing rights allocated to each, is sort of the definition of a class struggle.

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    5. Re:DRM bad, but "classist sensibilities"? by Quadraginta · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Friend, a corporation is a miniature society. It's an organization of people that divides labor for the purpose of maximizing the welfare of all, subject to an agreed-upon heirarchical distribution scheme. (That is, the wealth it creates is not usually distributed equally.) Society is merely the largest possible corporation, in which we are all, whether we like it nor not, employed.

      What you are saying is that the smaller organization we may voluntarily join (e.g. the corporations that employ us) should be policed by and subject to the larger organizations that we are a member of whether we like it or not (e.g. the country in which we are born).

      Yeah, well, not by me. I prefer to choose with whom I associate, and to whom I listen. I most definitely do not like the idea of the largest possible organization of which I'm a member, like it or not, enforcing the ultimate rules of my life. I'm much happier if the rules are defined by a smaller organization that I voluntarily join, and which I can voluntarily leave if I don't like the rules.

      In a free society, where the largest powerful organizations are much smaller than the entire country, I can find the corner of it that plays by the rules I like. I have choices. I can be mostly who I want to be. In your "social" society, I have no more choices. I have to be what the majority thinks I should be, act accordingly to their morality and expectations.

      No thanks! I know my average fellow man too well to think it would be fun to allow him to dictate the terms of my life.

    6. Re:DRM bad, but "classist sensibilities"? by VidEdit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "As I understand it, a DTrace user has experimented with the program, determined it to be specifically crippled, and given an educated guess about why it is crippled in that way"

      No, the frickin' **author** of DTrace has found the specific code used by Apple to cripple it.

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  2. Yet another example of how Apple is not our friend by Zombie+Ryushu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apple is as much the DRM laden threat to open computing as Microsoft is. We may have circumvented this issue this time, but what about the time after that? and after that? Its a cat and mouse game Apple is going to play.

  3. Great! by Jeremi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So can I apply this NOATTACH flag to my l33t rootkit software to make sure it goes undetected by any system diagnostic tools?


    This will be a big help for me in my quest for a legion of Mac zombies ;^)

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  4. Re:DRM? by KublaiKhan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That may have been Apple's intent, but as usually happens in such cases, the end result is to encourage people to find out new ways around the 'protections' that have been inflicted.

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  5. Freedom Crippled when you use Proprietary Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You of all people should know that you give up your freedom to use your software and hardware as you wish when you use proprietary software. Apple's continuous attempt to stop people from changing software on their home computers is a good example of how they feel about freedom. They only side with freedom when it is immediately beneficial.

  6. From the Fine Article by Stanistani · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Quote:
    "So Apple is explicitly preventing DTrace from examining or recording data for processes which don't permit tracing. This is antithetical to the notion of systemic tracing, antithetical to the goals of DTrace, and antithetical to the spirit of open source."

    Diagnostic tool that won't look at all processes is no tool at all.

  7. Re:C'mon, seriously? by bersl2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    (Note: IANA DTrace user or developer.)

    The real effects seem to be that while a process which sets this flag has control of the system, any DTrace events that fire off during this time will not be detected, as if they never occurred, regardless of whether what is being traced has anything to do with that process. It seems to break a few important(?) idioms used by DTrace users, so that the results returned are not what they should be.

    The furor seems to be that this subtle breakage has gone undocumented; and although only iTunes currently uses it, that does not stop other software (including software that should not be there) from using it. That a DTrace developer discovered this, combined with that this is in all likelihood being done for no reason other than that of DRM, is what makes this notable. If I were working on DTrace, I'd probably be pissed too.

  8. The point of the article by aberkvam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The /. summary and most of the /. posters seem to be missing the point of the article. (To be fair, the author wasn't too clear himself. He's done some clarification in the comments section of his article.)

    Sure, it's annoying that DTrace can't "see" iTunes. But that's more of a DRM issue. Whether you agree with DRM and Apple's implementation of it or not, this DTrace feature is merely a logical extension of that issue.

    The real problem though is that this feature actually does break iTunes. If DTrace probes while the iTunes application happens to be the application currently running on the CPU, the DTrace probe won't run. (It's technically a thread of iTunes' at that moment.) So not only will DTrace not show iTunes, it won't show ANY information until it happens to fire off when iTunes isn't the app running on the CPU.

    It is fair to say that Apple has made a change to DTrace that has introduced a bug that they need to fix. It is possible for them to fix that bug while continuing to block using DTrace on iTunes.

  9. So? by Plekto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I just don't see what the big deal with all of this is. Smart people don't touch ITunes, because it's just going to help feed the beast. People seem to have forgotten how Jobs ran Apple the last time he was in charge. He's merely a lot more charismatic than Gates. But they are both equally self-serving.

    Thankfully there are options which involve neither company.

  10. Re:Luckily... by Hamilton+Lovecraft · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, uh, why don't you open source wizards recompile DTrace without the code that checks P_LNOATTACH?

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  11. Re:Huh? by drcagn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Darwin is Apple's stuff. They made it. It is based on BSD, but the BSD license doesn't require them to release the source (does it? IANAL). It is also based on NeXTSTEP, which was acquired by Apple in the 90s.

    Apple's record with open source is inconsistent. Sometimes they develop internally and release source (Darwin, Bonjour), sometimes they collaborate with open source projects and share (WebKit with KDE), sometimes they buy out someone's software (Cover Flow), sometimes they steal ideas and never credit original authors (Dashboard).

    Apple has its own open source license, the Apple Public Source License, approved by OSI and the FSF. However, they also release under the Apache license as well.

    I would say in general, Apple is very open source-friendly, and a lot of open source developers I know have flocked to the Mac. It's just sometimes they have some evil empire corporation actions that make us Apple users shake our heads.

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  12. Re:DRM? by mstone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most likely, Apple's intent is to deliver a 'credible effort' to prevent circumvention and/or reverse engineering.

    Even though the labels have largely dropped DRM, they still don't like the idea of users having control over digital music. It's part of their DNA. Their whole business revolved around having control over the production and distribution systems, and they just can't contemplate existence without having control over something. The contracts between Apple and the labels reflect that fear, with Apple having the job of making it look like the horses are still in the barn even though the door is open.

    Now technically, that's impossible. But my experience with corporate software development has shown me that you can balance 'customers who don't want to know what's impossible' with judicious use of handwavium. You don't have to build a solution that's bulletproof, you just need something that works most of the time. It doesn't matter if there are workarounds, or even if those workarounds are practically trivial for anyone with a technical background, as long as you can't discuss the workaround without using technical terms.

    It's sort of an extension of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. It's not that your customers can't think about the problem if you lack the vocabulary, it's more that they won't want to think about the problem if they have to spend effort learning how to discuss it intelligently.

    So from a contractual standpoint, providing a 'credible effort' is more about obfuscation than actually trying to do the impossible. Apple probably doesn't care if people can work around this issue, as long as the explanation boils down to 'blah blah blah' to aggressively uninformed label executives.

  13. Re:Operating System Tying by mstone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ---- They're probably not going to get into a DOJ tiff over it, though . . .

    *sigh*

    There are plenty of alternative sources for digital music, almost all of which will play on an iPod and be indexed by iTunes. The ones that don't are formats the market isn't beating down Apple's door to support (Ogg), or which require licensing fees (WMA). All the MP3s you've bought from Amazon play on an iPod. All the tracks you import from a CD will play on an iPod. The iTunes store is a convenience for iPod owners, not a necessity.

    Besides, the standard operational definition of a monopoly is that a company can raise prices without losing sales, because consumers don't have credible alternatives. So far, Apple's behavior with regard to pricing is to fight against price increases.

    There are credible alternatives to the iPod for people who want a digital music player. There are credible alternatives to the iTunes store for people who want to buy digital music. There are credible ways to get music without a digital music player. Apple has the leading products in the digital music player market, and is one of the leading outlets for digital music, but there is a big-ass difference between being a market leader and being a monopolist engaging in anticompetitive behavior, and the DOJ's attitude toward market leaders in competitive markets is "don't bother me, I have real work to do."

  14. Right. Because that's how the OS community is by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We never ever criticize our heroes ever.

    The difference you seem to be missing here is that Steve Jobs only occasionally does a boneheaded thing like this against his fan base. Bill Gates only occasionally doesn't.

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  15. Re:OS-X itself by jeff4747 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apple boxes don't use the same kind of BIOS as a non-Apple box. If you somehow got a retail OS-X DVD to install on your Compaq, it wouldn't boot.

    Now, it's not too hard to get around this (install Darwin), but there actually is something "technical that prevents it from running on any modern PC".

  16. Re:DRM? by cduffy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you can't get accurate counter data (on some completely unrelated thing... say, disk accesses, or page faults, or cache hits) because any interrupts that happen whenever a protected process is on top of the run list are silently eaten, that's pretty darned broken.

    Look, I understand that Apple cares about their DRM. Fine and dandy, good for them -- but it'd be nice if they could protect it in a way that didn't break DTrace scripts that have nothing to do with trying to hack the DRM in iTunes.

  17. "DTrace is hardly crippled" by Chas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I call BULLSHIT.

    If they're selectively telling this app NOT to log "certain types of traffic", and give no notification of such, or allow the functionality to be restored, then it's CRIPPLED.

    I'm so sick of apologists telling me that stuff that's broken is broken for a good reason and that I should be glad someone deigned to allow me to hack it back to some semblance of functionality without getting sued into oblivion!

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  18. Not equivalent, no double standard by BeanThere · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We are more forgiving of people who aren't more chronically evil, life just is that way, get over it.

    Nobody and nothing is perfect, this does NOT mean that everything imperfect, is equivalent.

    Do you divorce your wife for making occasional mistakes? No, only if she is habitually and frequently bad. Are you more forgiving of a son who just occasionally screws up lightly, as opposed to one who does drugs and steals from you and ends up in jail regularly? Of course. Is every political leader who has lied at least once, just as bad as Hitler? Is somebody who beats his wife every day equally bad to somebody who once slapped his wife over 50 years of marriage?

    Please, stop with this pretending that all things are equivalent. There is NO double-standard here.

  19. Re:Wow by jvkjvk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Mac haters really are drama queens, aren't they? Here, read this.

    Leopard's DTrace isn't broken. Apple put in an API for a program to request that debugging & dtrace be disabled for it. Clearly it's there to keep FairPlay from being broken (too easily). Something that commercial developers could understandably want for their software, to prevent keygen hacks, etc.

    The link I provide shows a simple way to get around it. Hell, debugging iTunes is directly encouraged in an Apple Technote (linked in the article).

    As listed in the article I linked to, you can get around it by trapping the API call in gdb and disabling it. Why are you standing up for Apple in this? By your own admission, DTrace is broken (oh yes, you can get around it, Bah!) Why in the world should you have to do any of that!

    DTrace is a system level tool that should work properly on any and every process and thread in the system without smoke and mirrors.

    Leopard's DTrace is broken. It does not do what it should.

    There's no hating or drama about it. I don't care why they did it, and you're probably right that DRM is the reason. That doesn't mean it's not fubar'd.
  20. Re:Thanks Community, now fix Quicktime 7.4 by BrynM · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The point, which seems to have eluded you, is that while it's great people are fixing DTrace Apple has also broken applications used by far more people and no fix is available for those (nor can it be).

    I get the point now. You are making a logical leap that since the community can "fix" something that the sources are freely available for, then they should be responsible for "fixing" everything that Apple may cripple in some way even though all of the sources to things you want fixed are proprietary. Whether or not that is even remotely possible (which you, in fact, state in your reply that it is not), you were able to vent semi-topical frustration with Apple's breaking popular applications. Even got modded "informative" for it somehow. Good for you. When you have the sources for Quicktime, let the community know and someone may fix it for you.

    Also, the point that Apple essentially crippled something that was futile to cripple (remember the sources?) may have eluded you.

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  21. Re:And as quick as it is reported by cbreaker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And what does UNIX actually mean?

    In terms of a "modern" UNIX, a Linux distribution is more "UNIX" than OSX. The filesystem layout is more standard UNIX, the graphical environment is more UNIX, etc etc etc without using add-ons like a non-native X server running on top of Aqua, and the list goes on..

    MacOS is a decent system in of itself, but to say it's more UNIX than a Linux distribution is laughable. I mean, c'mon. Get over it. Next you'll say MacOS washes a car better than a sponge..

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  22. Re:OS-X itself by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is DRM'd to only run on Apple hardware.

    Well sort of, but it is also licensed to only run on Apple hardware, so unless you're planning on breaking the license you don't have a problem. DRM on media attempts to apply licensing to content, which is a slightly different matter. As a Linux supporter I object to users modifying Linux and redistributing it without the source as that violates the license. I don't see why Apple should not only object but take measures to prevent people from violating their license. (Especially given that they are in a bad place economically as their crown jewels is a desktop OS and the desktop OS market is monopolized, which means if they can't bundle their OS with a complete system, there is no long-term way to stay in business unless the courts act effectively against MS... and we all know our court system is way too corrupt for that.)

    Look I admit it would be nice if Apple unbundled their OS and hardware, but I'm also smart enough to know that would quickly lead to Apple having to stop developing their OS altogether. I'm also smart enough to see how much collateral damage that would do to open standards and Linux as it would change the market from, 8% OS X and 1% Linux and 80% Windows to 98% Windows in a hurry. MS doesn't need more power to break the market and that is exactly what we'd have if Apple dropped their hardware and OS bundling as a license requirement.

  23. Re:Wow by Lally+Singh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sure I read the post, I just don't agree with the conclusions.

    DTrace works on processes it's supposed to, and doesn't work on those it's not. I'm happy to agree the implementation of the latter is buggy, but I don't think it's the end of the world or a conspiracy theory. Maybe later the providers can be adapted to more intelligently deal with these closed-off processes to give more consistent results.

    Apple decided to put in some measures to keep some software locked-down. The correctness of doing so isn't a technical issue, that's a philosophical one.

    DTrace is a wonderful tool: one that's saved me *months* off my PhD work, and I love it. And you have my deepest respect for it. But, I don't take dtrace as a philosophy -- I gave up on software religion a long time ago. Everyone's got their own requirements (e.g. locking down iTunes to keep FairPlay from being cracked -- to keep record producers from leaving iTunes) and they've gotta get them done however they can. Call it mercenary ethics if you want, but we don't all work at Sun with CEOs who get it.

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  24. Re:One question: by wyldeone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You've (like many) completely misunderstood the point of Apple's code signing efforts. It's not to stop unauthorized code from running--Apple is not Microsoft, no matter how you cut it; they don't even have activation, nor any protections on their software besides serial numbers. The real point of code signing is so that when you have a piece of software that claims to be from Company X, you can be sure it's actually from Company X. It's a tool to reduce malware pretending to be legitimate software, not a means for Apple to lock down your computer.

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