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ISP Filters & Copyright Extension Defeated In EU

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "Last November, EU regulators in the European Parliament's Committee on Culture and Education began looking at how culture affects the economy and recommended a 'balance between the opportunities for access to cultural events and content and intellectual property' saying that 'criminalizing consumers so as to combat digital piracy is not the right solution.' Industry lobbyists, of course, immediately sprang into action to try to turn that around, writing amendments that would set up mandatory ISP copyright filters and extend EU copyrights to match the USA's life-plus-70 term. Thankfully, the committee rejected all of those amendments: 'Clearly, they're not going to let the ITRE or the European recording industry push them around, which is great news for Europeans. Now if we could only get the US Congress to show as much spine as the French (ouch).'"

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  1. As a US citizen I find our government lacking by Whuffo · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I've contacted my representatives regarding the attempts by the media companies to make their continued existence and profitability a legal requirement. The responses I've received are less than useless.

    The worst response reward goes to Barbara Boxer. When I contacted her regarding proposed legislation that was intended to further erode fair use and hand more of the public rights to the media companies I got a form letter in reply. That form letter thanked me for my letter and let me know that Barbara Boxer was listening and fully intended to support the legislation that I was writing about (and against).

    I don't expect any representative to do what I wish - but it would be nice if they took a few moments to actually READ and maybe THINK a little about what the people they supposedly represent are thinking. Ms. Boxer has clearly identified herself as being on the side of further abuses by the media companies - I don't know about other "representatives" but this one clearly does NOT represent the people who elected her.

    1. Re:As a US citizen I find our government lacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      > Really. Which one of the 670,000 people she represents is she supposed to dance for? Seriously, I want to know.

      All of them. Every last one. And if she can't meet the standards to which she has been charged she should setp aside for someone more capable.

      > If you think that you put people in office to do what you would do, then you're sorely missing the point of a republic.

      The problem is, your republic is a piece of shit and everything happening toady proves it. What you need is a representative democracy.

      > They're in place because we (theoretically) value their (hypothetical) decisionmaking abilities and they best reflect the
      > () values of those electing said representative.

      And in practice? Why are you defending a theoretical system that doesn't work? This isn't even reasoning, it's more like faith based emotional thinking.

      > We send people to Washington as trustees, not as mouthpieces, because the people rarely speak with one voice and the Framers
      > were deathly afraid of the masses.

      But they are untrustworthy, and prove it at every juncture. Right now, a rabble of people passionately speaking their own truths would serve your country much better a chorus of lies in unison. Politics is not supposed to be easy, you choose the lazy mans way out.

      > If you don't like the values of the representative, get a different representative.

      You are unspeakably naive.

      > Don't whine about media control or interest groups or the "myth of two different parties"--if the people wanted something else, they'd have it.

      And a cynic who hides behind blame.

      > The fact that they don't generally give a crap is just part of the reality of our society,

      And a defeatist who dishonours your own countrymen.

      > and in true democratic fashion, they get an equal voice for their apathy, pound for pound.

      And spiteful.

      In short, you're entire way of thinking is part of the very problem we face. Have some ambition. Have some hope. Grow a fucking spine America.

  2. Now is the time for reform by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Stopping the already insane copyright system from becoming more insane is a good thing, but it is not the same as actually trying to make it less insane.

    1. The copyright must be registered
    2. An actual person must be named (just like with patents)
    3. Death of the registered person means death of the copyright (you can't encourage dead people to make new works no matter how hard you try)
    4. At time of registration a term can be chosen, and an appropriate fee paid.
    5. A reasonable number of extensions (say, three) are permitted, provided a new fee is paid.
    6. A set of standard royalties for a common class of work (say, songs) should be decided, and made available to anyone who cares to pay the standard rate.
    7. Willful royalty evasion justifies reasonable punitive damages (say, 3 times the standard royalty), nothing else does.
    8. Indoctrinated fair use should be ratified by international treaty and be recognized as a means to end a complaint pre-trial.

    And that's about the bare minimum needed to make copyright fit for the intended purpose of encouraging the science and the useful arts. It still doesn't make copyright just but it would at least make it something people would be willing to respect.

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  3. Re:Life+70 is just obscene by fm6 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, it's not the lengthy term that's obscene. That's just irritating. The real problem is that every time some valuable copyrights threaten to expire, congress extends the term. And here's what's obscene: the Supereme Court's inability to grasp that endless extensions abrogate the Constitution's requirement that copyrights be "for limited times".

    But here's some good news: more and more old books and music will go public-domain in Europe, and will be available for order at a reasonable cost — or downloadable from the inevitable "pirate" servers. Another reason to buy a Kindle.

  4. Re:Life+70 is just obscene by Ajehals · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder what current/future legal/technical restrictions will prevent the movement of material that is public-domain in one jurisdiction but under copyright in another will appear. There are already issues surrounding Australia (which IIRC at least up until recently had a more limited copyright term).

    My greatest fear however is still that an effective DRM mechanism will add massively to the usual problems involved in the long term accessibility of culturally relevant material. After all DRM doesnt (currently) recognise or pay heed to the copyright status of the work it protects.

  5. Re:Life+70 is just obscene by webmaster404 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    DRM can be broken quite simply. DRM isn't the real evil, software patents and DMCA-style laws that prevent you from breaking it is the problem. I can see documents stored in digital form being unreadable in 75-100 years due to a lack of standards used and DMCA-style laws though, just think about all those floppy disks with all those documents from '95 made on some application and today are just about unreadable, also data from obsolete storage formats are heading the same way.

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  6. Re:You obviously have no children by TheDugong · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "If I create a copyright, I sure as hell want my children to at least be able to profit from it, even if I suffer an untimely death."
    Then, like most people, you can invest some of the money you make during your lifetime, from copyrighted works or otherwise, and leave that as part of your estate. Life insurance helps as well.

  7. Life + 70 years is already reality by Noonian+Soong · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The bad thing that isn't mentioned, is that some countries in the EU already have adopted the US life+70 years term. For example in Germany, it is exactly the same rule. Making copyright law univeral across the EU would be a great success if it would decrease this term, but actually I don't think the EU has done much for its citizens in terms of copyright or ISP filters. The article is simply wrong about this because many things that are mentioned haven't actually been decided yet.

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  8. Why must copyrights be life insurance? by tepples · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I create a copyright, I sure as hell want my children to at least be able to profit from it, even if I suffer an untimely death. Why should this not also be the case for patents, which currently expire 20 years after filing, with no consideration given to the life of the inventor? If you want life insurance, buy life insurance, possibly with the royalties you derive from an invention under a 20-year patent or from a work under a copyright with a fixed term after publication.