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NPD Group Says "Wait! HD-DVD Isn't Dead Yet"

The NPD group, owners of the not-quite-as-popular-as-they-had-hoped HD-DVD format, attempted to battle back against the tide of "naysayers" who claim that the format war is over and have declared Blu-Ray Disc the winner. "While select articles have implied that HD-DVD as a format is doomed and the sky is falling for the format's supporters, the NPD Group this afternoon reinforced that sales results from a single week do not necessarily indicate a trend, and that the week in question had several intriguing variables that have gone unreported."

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  1. Re:A Modest Proposal by BosstonesOwn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They need to get burners to market in mass quantity as well as offer those licenses for free or very very small royalties.

    Like pennies per unit. Plus they need to get the consumer on their side. The more hd-dvd players out there the more the industry has to listen. Unfortunately with the economy tanking this is hard. Right now I personally would put money making on the back burner and just look to break even. Make hd-dvd discs cheaper to buy then a normal dvd and make the players cheaper. At that point this whole thing can turn around , with consumer demand the studios have to listen. If smaller studios stick to the format then there really can be a price market , smaller studios usually make lower cost films and don't need to recoup so much back.

    The reason I say they need burners in high volume asap, is that whether they like it or not piracy is often times a real boost to sales. It's been proven that it helps.( http://www.stargeek.com/item/41324.html ) ( http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=243454 )

    The american and canadian dbs providers , even cable can thank piracy for large subscriber growth. They really should get those burners out in high volumes fast.

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  2. Not so fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As an insider I can attest to the fact that the online world has been nailed by one of the most successful viral marketing campaigns ever waged in a digital format war. An unnamed company (or three) got together before the recent announcement by Warner Bros in the weeks before CES to orchestrate this domino effect. The game plan was, in a nutshell, that Warner Bros would announce their support for Blu-Ray (even though they will continue to make HD-DVD for some time) and their subsidiaries would follow closely with announcements. Then it was revealed that Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment and Twentieth Century-Fox Home Entertainment would reaffirm their commitment to the format. This information was fed into the biggest gadget blogs with the underlying message that the war is over. This was parroted near verbatim by submissions to all of the major technology and social bookmarking sites. Major audio video forums had been primed with posters working for the viral marketing firms employed to pull this off. Overnight every major site on the internet along with mainstream media was singing the Blu-Ray song. To make sure the statistics following CES would confirm the "Blu-Ray has won" story manufacturers were heavily discounting Blu-Ray players. This week, much to no ones surprise, this came true.

    So why am I sharing this? I am firmly in the Blu-Ray camp but the techniques employed in this war have been rather unethical. Which blog or news agency will be the first to hunt down the facts in this story to confirm my story?

    Don't buy it? Then read this article on TechChrunch which describes the same techniques used to market viral videos.

  3. Re:Karma-whoring suggestion by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You laugh, but HD DVD is at least a DRM optional format like DVD. Blu-ray mandates AACS - you can't press a Blu-ray disc without AACS for some reason.

    Not that any studios are putting out AACS free HD DVD discs, but the possibility is there for any company that wants to act ethically - or that just doesn't see the onerous licensing requirements as worth the money supposedly saved by using DRM.

    And yeah, I like the fact HD DVD is region free too.

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  4. Re:A Modest Proposal by hairyfeet · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It isn't just piracy. As a pc tech I would LOVE a cheap HD-DVD burner to use to back up mine and my customers data files. Plus it would be great for discs full of drivers, older software, etc. Even if it was only the 25Gb discs that were cheap, I think a lot of folks would buy them for backups. I really think they could turn this around ( and have said so in previous posts on the subject) if they can get cheap burners and media into the hands of the public.


    Blu-Ray at this point is simply too expensive to be any good for backups,at least for me. And I care more about burning my own media than I do about formats, which is why I and a LOT of people I know are sticking with DVD.And let us not forget that the cheapness of digicams and other forms of user content creation. And people are a lot more used to being able to burn a disc and share it with friends than passing around hard drives. I just hope they are forward thinking enough to see this instead of helping Blu-Ray kill the competition by keeping licenses high.

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  5. Re:A Modest Proposal by hairyfeet · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Actually I have had pretty good luck with the really cheap media,as well. I know I am dating myself(but hell I'm too dang old to care) but I was one of those idiots that bought a $200 4X DVD burner when they first came out,so I have some discs going back 5-6 years. And I have bought mostly whatever was on sale at the time,and so far no problems. I have found if you keep them out of direct light and are VERY careful in how you handle them(I found this out from my nephews who spin the discs on the spindle when looking for discs,ouch) they work great with no read errors.


    Plus I think that a lot of folks out there have stuff they want to back up that is really pointless for anything other than discs. I have about a spindle full of drivers for most of the major pc manufacturers from my days at the repair shop. It would be crazy to waste the money on a HDD for stuff I only need once in a blue moon,whereas it is only 25c to back it up on DVD. And at that price I can afford to make more than one copy of things I really want to keep.


    And for those of you who have a disc that has trouble reading, I have had very good luck with this. I know most of the recovery tools are bunk, but I've recovered discs with this that literally looked like someone had played hockey with them. Great tool to have in your toolkit.

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