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Suppresed Video of Japanese Reactor Sodium Leak

James Hardine writes "Following an announcement this week that the infamous Japanese Monju fast-breeder nuclear reactor would be re-opened with a new plutonium core, Wikileaks has released suppressed video footage of the disaster that led to its closure in 1995. The video shows men in silver 'space suits' exploring the reactor in which sodium compounds hang from the air ducts like icicles. Unlike conventional reactors, fast-breeder reactors, which 'breed' plutonium, use sodium rather than water as a coolant. This type of coolant creates a potentially hazardous situation as sodium is highly corrosive and reacts violently with both water and air. Government officials at first played down the extent of damage at the reactor and denied the existence of a videotape showing the sodium spill. The deputy general manager, Shigeo Nishimura, 49, jumped to his death the day after a news conference at which he and other officials revealed the extent of the cover-up. His family is currently suing the government at Japan's High Court."

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  1. Governments can suppress the videos by Aurisor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Governments can suppress the videos, but they will never stop the first posters.

  2. Youtube link by pirodude · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Youtube link by pirodude · · Score: 5, Informative
    2. Re:Youtube link by Mike+Morgan · · Score: 5, Funny

      The subtitle text I saw was:

              Narrator: In A.D. 2101, war was beginning.
              Captain: What happen ?
              Mechanic: Somebody set up us the bomb.
              Operator: We get signal.
              Captain: What!
              Operator: Main screen turn on.
              Captain: It's you!!
              CATS: How are you gentlemen!!
              CATS: All your base are belong to us.
              CATS: You are on the way to destruction.
              Captain: What you say!!
              CATS: You have no chance to survive make your time.
              CATS: Ha Ha Ha Ha ....
              Operator: Captain!! *
              Captain: Take off every 'ZIG'!!
              Captain: You know what you doing.
              Captain: Move 'ZIG'.
              Captain: For great justice.

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  3. Re:Video down? by hyperherod · · Score: 5, Informative

    An English subtitled version can be found here until that also runs out of bandwidth. Also a link to a version on YouTube but this is with Japanese subtitles only.

  4. Re:Also by ceejayoz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    9.1 MB video via https, mind you.

  5. Re:radioactive sodium too by Dun+Malg · · Score: 5, Informative

    sodium cooled reactors also have a tendancy to produce radioactive isotopes of sodium like Na22 or Na24 Eh. The chemical dangers are more significant. Na-22 isn't particularly radioactive, and the highly radioactive Na-24 has a half-life of only 15 hours.
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  6. what? by mofag · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I watched the whole video and I didn't see anything of note. I didn't see the "small mountain of sodium" and I didn't see anyone die. What is it? can anyone explain what I was meant to see please?

    1. Re:what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      At several points in the video you can see a white substance coating things, especially on the underside. This is probably the sodium, meaning that the stuff escaped, despite assurances that this hadn't happened, contradicting earlier statements by the agency. Consequently, it means that there may have been a corrosive effect to a (much) larger part of the facility, meaning that the plant probably was damaged to a much greater extent than has been made public, but also that the consequences of another incident could be far worse.

  7. Re:radioactive sodium too by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Funny

    So they put liquid sodium on the fissile material as a coolant? Man, is there anything the Japanese *won't* put soy sauce on?

  8. Re:Nuclear Power and Global Warming by Martz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Instead the burning of coal slowly kills thousands of people a year through air pollution.

    And as we all know, that's not news because it isn't sensational enough.

    One study I found when searching indicates that 25 reactor meltdowns per year would be required to being it inline with coal pollution deaths.

  9. Re:radioactive sodium too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Rice.

    The Japanese won't put soy sauce on rice.

  10. Re:Nuclear Power and Global Warming by NevermindPhreak · · Score: 5, Informative

    So interesting, that i took the liberty of finding the source.

    http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/np-risk.htm

  11. Re:Nuclear Power and Global Warming by Shining+Celebi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Those do not incur the risk of radioactive contamination, which has long-term consequences that are more worrying than those resulting directly from the incident (I'm not saying every nuclear incident goes the way of Chernobyl -- just pointing out there is a risk). So it's not just a matter of comparing casualties resulting from the particular explosion/meltdown/whatever.

    Coal mining accidents might not incur the risk of significant radioactive contamination, but the combustion of coal does release massive amounts of radioactive material into the atmosphere, and people living near coal-fired power plants are exposed to more radiation than those living near nuclear power plants.

    I've always found these statistics to be interesting:

    For comparison, according to NCRP Reports No. 92 and No. 95, population exposure from operation of 1000-MWe nuclear and coal-fired power plants amounts to 490 person-rem/year for coal plants and 4.8 person-rem/year for nuclear plants. Thus, the population effective dose equivalent from coal plants is 100 times that from nuclear plants.

    Of course, in the case of an extreme nuclear accident, as in Chernobyl, we have a very big problem to deal with right away that wouldn't be possible with coal. But I think it's worth remembering that a great deal of radioactive material is accumulating from coal-fired power plants, and that could someday be a major problem too. Nuclear power is not the only source of radiation released because of human activity.

  12. Re:radioactive sodium too by khallow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The thing to keep in mind is that sodium is so popular as a reactor coolant precisely because it doesn't form a lot of long lived radioactive isotopes when irradiated in a nuclear reactor.

  13. Re:radioactive sodium too by BlueParrot · · Score: 5, Informative

    The halflife of Sodium-24 is around 15 hours. The primary decay route is beta emission to an excited Magnesium-24 which then emits two gamma rays at 2.75Mev and 1.37Mev. So the snow is probably pretty radioactive too.


    Siiiigh, again.. The leak was in teh SECONDARY LOOP. It wasn't any radioactivity in it. Nada, zero, zip... Yes, it was a bad accident, but the only thing nuclear about it was that it occurred in a nuclear power plant. The same thing would be much less likely to occur in the radioactive primary loop, because that counts as part of the nuclear island and is hence under much stricter safety requirements.
  14. Re:radioactive sodium too by Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Siiiigh again... sodium reacts explosively with concrete. The concrete that the entire containment structure was made out of. The concrete that had a layer of steel over it to prevent sodium, in the event of a leak, from reaching the concrete (they thought the sodium couldn't corrode it). The steel that the sodium nearly ate its way through.

    What, exactly, do you think the energy of a 2,000 pound bomb going off in the middle of a reactor will do in terms of letting more sodium leak? What do you think letting more sodium leak will do in terms of further explosions? What do you think all of this will do to the primary?

    This was a Very Bad Thing (TM), but could have been far worse.

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  15. Mod parent up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is so true! I am in japan now and they go bananas every time I want to put soy sauce on my rice. In Sweden, and other parts of europe I guess, we can put soy sauce on the rice. But here in Japan it is not acceptible - sauce on rice is "dog food", very strange.. :) The most funny thing is that when I try to tell them "I like it better this way", they truly do not understand what I mean. It seems food here is not about eating in a way you like but rather eating in a way that the ancients developed thousands of years ago. Weird people.

    So mod parent funny or informative! :)

  16. Re:radioactive sodium too by causality · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The big issue here seems to be not the coolant itself - it seems to be a relatively good coolant to use - but the fact that the accident happened.


    The big issue here is not that an accident happened -- accidents have a way of doing that from time to time. Things go wrong, the best plans have flaws, people make mistakes. This is true of ... well, all non-trivial human endeavors. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, especially considering that no one in their right mind is going to deny that a nuclear reactor is a complex device with a non-zero risk of something going wrong.

    The big issue here is that the government lied to its people and the fact that they lied was covered up. We need more stories like this of governments around the world because it might just put a dent in the (very dangerous) "government is your friend" mentality that is especially prevalant in the USA.

    Personally I wish the definition of treason were expanded to include "issuing false statements to the people with the intent to deceive when done by any government official" or something to that effect. Meaning, you can make an honest mistake and it's no big deal; deliberately lie to the people and you get removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Does that sound harsh? Perhaps, but they don't seem to think so when they "make an example" of us, as we have seen with the War on (Some) Drugs and are now seeing with copyright law. Not to mention, almost any concept I have of "harsh" goes out the window when talking of wrongdoing on the part of people who consider themselves our masters.

    This isn't Athens where people were chosen for public office by lottery. These are people who seek power and have worked very hard to get it. What's wrong with giving them a reason to be cautions with how they use it?
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