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TSA Opens Blog — You Can Finally Complain

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "The TSA has opened their own blog. According to Ars Technica, it's beginning to attract complaints from people who are sick of removing their shoes and having to forfeit their drinks. 'The blog's first post has 131 comments so far, almost all of which fall into one of two categories: TSA employees who got the internal memo about the blog launch and dropped by to post positive things, and citizens who are really mad about the liquids screening policy.'"

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  1. Planes will NEVER be hijacked the same way as 9/11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Blown up? Maybe. Hijacked? NO! Why? Because we know the rules have changed. In the pre-9/11 days, people were told to cooperate with hijackers, because if they did, there was a good chance they'd get out of it alive. Now, we know that the hijackers are willing to kill us all as they use the plane as a weapon, and thus, we have nothing to lose by fighting back. Once the passengers of United 93 learned what had happened to the other plans, they realized this, and they fought back. There will never be another attack in the style of 9/11, and it's not because of the TSA or Homeland Security. It's because we know better.

  2. Little do you realize... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    that this is just a clever move to find people that disagree with them and put them on the no-fly list.

    (Anonymous for obvious reasons, I like flying)

  3. Re:Haven't flown since before 9/11 by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please tell us all how you would make air travel safe and convenient.

    I wouldn't do anything.

    Air travel is one of the safest modes of transportation, and that was BEFORE all the new inconveniences. Nothing has changed. 9/11 didn't change that. And the new procedures and inconveniences won't stop it from happening again. The biggest and really only real improvement they've made is improving the security of the cockpit. (And -that- didn't inconvenience anybody.)

    All this bullshit about terrorists sneaking a liquid onto a plane and blowing it up is bullshit. The 'terrorists' could just as easily detonate bombs and kill large amounts of people by setting of their bombs -at- the security checkpoints in the airport or getting into a ballgame, or anywhere else. Sir, liquids are banned...please remove your shoes. Sir? KA-BOOM!

    And what are they going to do to stop that? Put security checkpoints before the security checkpoints??

    What would I do to make america safer? I'd stop fixating on paranoid fear reactions, and spend my time improving relations with muslims, resolving our differences, helping their countries become prosperous, healing the rifts between us.

    There will always be extremists. And people will always die. But I don't want to live in an isolated padded prison cell and forfeit all liberty for absolute safety.

  4. Re:Haven't flown since before 9/11 by GaryPatterson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, clearly *you're* not a politician. You're trying to calm people down, start a dialogue with disaffected muslims and assert reason in the face of panic.

    Madness! You'll never get anywhere with clear thinking!

  5. Long story short by Arthur+B. · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The government has no business performing security checks on passengers.

    If passengers wish secure flights, the airlines will provide security checks, different airlines might even offer different security levels to cater from the person in a rush to the paranoid.

    What if someday, I went to the doorstep of a DHS officer and start requiring every one entering, including his friends and family to strip naked, out of security concern for him. What if, even worst, I decided to charge the service to him, by threatening to put him in jail if he doesn't pay for the service or comply with the security checks. Hey I'd be arrested.

    The government is doing the exact same thing and guess what : they're just a bunch of people. They are not different from other people. Just because they're elected by a majority and have a nice nametag saying "Hi, I'm from the government" doesn't really give them super-moral powers. If a normal person is not allowed to do something, there's no reason people from the government should.

    With a monopoly on law enforcement, it is natural that the quality of enforcement lowers and the price rises. I mean... if everyone is forced to buy your security services, you're going to charge for anything. Hey why not protect people from nail clippers in airplanes ! Good !

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  6. Re:Haven't flown since before 9/11 by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Indeed. I have been rather saddened by all the rhetoric about "taking the tough decisions" thrown around casually by the likes of Bush and Blair post-9/11. The really tough decision would have been not to commit vast resources to fighting something that is a genuine but ultimately small threat, but to reserve them for other, realistically greater needs, and to stand up before the people the day after the attacks and give a single, simple speech saying that while the losses should be mourned we will never give in to terrorism by changing our way of life out of fear.

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  7. Re:Haven't flown since before 9/11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wish your flight would have been on 9/11. Imagine how airport security would be different today if the story had been "4 terrorists, armed with box-cutters, attempted to hijack an airliner, only to have their limbs removed by a gang of Canadian college students armed with machetes".

  8. Re:Haven't flown since before 9/11 by suckmysav · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They are not doing it to improve safety, they are doing it to provide the perception of safety.

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  9. Re:Haven't flown since before 9/11 by Entropius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please tell us all how you would make air travel safe and convenient.

    Stop going out of your way to piss off a large portion of the world's fanatics with your foreign policy.

  10. Re:Haven't flown since before 9/11 by poopdeville · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You might be surprised how valuable the perception of safety can be.

    Today, while waiting at a busy bus stop on my way home from work, a deranged looking black Muslim man wearing a large back pack came up, kneeled on the corner, and prayed. It made me realize two things: 1) being a Muslim in the US must be tough, because 2) everybody (including me, unfortunately) went OH SHIT when they saw this.

    In retrospect, I was in no danger the entire time. But my perception of safety was ruined momentarily.

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  11. Re:Haven't flown since before 9/11 by Dun+Malg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Uh, no. The SANE thing was to either:

    1. Do nothing. Now that the rules of hijacking have changed just enjoying watching Americans tear the limbs off of any would-be hijackers.
    2. Seal the cockpit. Indeed, this is what infuriates me the most. The only reason the 3 successful 9/11 hijackings worked was because the passengers were unaware that the "rules" had changed. It wasn't 15 minutes from the time the news of WTC 1 and 2 and the Pentagon got to them that the passengers of United 93 decided that they weren't going to play by the rules anymore either and counterattacked the lightly armed chickenshit bastards, forcing them to nose into the ground because they were about to lose control of the plane. Likewise, "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid was forcibly hogtied and sedated within minutes of someone smelling him light a match. Hijacking planes is just plain fucking over. Hijacking was always a very tenuous balance between the hostages desire to avoid injury and the hijackers' desire to have their pals let out of prison, or get away with the money, or not die, or whatever. All that quaint old "take me to Cuba" shit is history. If it isn't something that's big enough to take out the whole plane, and do it essentially instantly, the second any dumbass makes the threat with a swiss army knife, he's hogtied and sedated by passengers who know the stakes have been elevated. There's simply no reason for the TSA to bother screening for small personal weapons or potentially dangerous pocket objects. Like Bruce Schneier says, it's all just wasteful, distracting security theater. Fine, screen for bombs and guns, maybe check for poison gas cannisters, but leave our fucking toothpaste alone, you morons!
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  12. Re:Haven't flown since before 9/11 by networkBoy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Red Fuming nitric acid and [cotton balls | Glycerin | coal tar ] qualifies, but because you eliminated the H2SO4 so it's be "binary" you'll have to do a bit of drying first. Cool thing is, *assuming* I could both procure and get through security with Red Nitric, then 3 x 1 Oz containers is vastly more than adequate, especially if I'm using a solid as my secondary so I can use all three bottles for nitric and sulphuric...

    That said, if you want to bring down a plane, it is vastly more effective to simply smuggle some mercury on board (doesn't take much). Make a fake battery (AA) and use a 3 volt lithium AA in place of the other battery, thus two AAs gives you three volts and proper operation of the device (cheap digicam, flashlight, vibrator, whatever). Once in flight, open the fake battery and hold the plane hostage.

    Even more effective: grab a fire extinguisher while in flight. hit people with it, bash in the cockpit door with it.
    Or decompress the plane by bashing out windows.
    Or take Krav Maga (sp?) or some other suitable "hostile" martial art.
    Or claim to have a bomb even though you don't (still will terrify the plane).
    Or smuggle a gun in.
    Or Smuggle a knife in.
    Or use some JB weld, a magazine, and a metal spoon (need a handle after all) and make a knife.
    Or rupture all those butane lighters you bought after security in the concourse and make a fuel air bomb in the lav.
    Etc.
    Etc.

    Point is that there are a million ways to take down a plane, or terrorize a plane, what have you. Almost all of them are simpler than a binary explosive.
    -nB

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