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Birds Give a Lesson to Plane Designers

Roland Piquepaille points out a news release from the University of Michigan where researchers are looking to birds and bats for insights into aerospace engineering. Wei Shyy and his colleagues are learning from solutions developed by nature and applying them to the technology of flight. A presentation on this topic was also given at the 2005 TED conference. From the news release: "The roll rate of the aerobatic A-4 Skyhawk plane is about 720 degrees per second. The roll rate of a barn swallow exceeds 5,000 degrees per second. Select military aircraft can withstand gravitational forces of 8-10 G. Many birds routinely experience positive G-forces greater than 10 G and up to 14 G. Flapping flight is inherently unsteady, but that's why it works so well. Birds, bats and insects fly in a messy environment full of gusts traveling at speeds similar to their own. Yet they can react almost instantaneously and adapt with their flexible wings."

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  1. laden or unladen? by ruggerboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    a barn swallow, yes, but an African swallow...

    1. Re:laden or unladen? by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Funny

      For those in need, here's the official reference on "Estimating the Airspeed Velocity of an Unladen Swallow". Enjoy.

    2. Re:laden or unladen? by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Funny

      The little search engine that could told me. That and a few ex-girlfriends who had some experience with swallows, but that's all over now that I'm married.

  2. In other news... by djupedal · · Score: 4, Funny

    Submarine designers look to fish for ideas on how to move in water.

  3. Arrakis by milsoRgen · · Score: 4, Funny

    So does this mean we will soon of ornithopters to defend our spice from the evil Harkonnen?

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  4. Re:It's the people, not the planes. by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tell me about it. My brother suffered an awful tilt-a-whirl experience at an amusement park, and they had to clean him up what was left with tortilla chips. Not a pretty sight.

  5. Cool idea! by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...but wouldn't it be hard to keep your drink on the tray with the pane bouncing up and down constantly?

    (...and what if you're allergic to feathers? )

    /P

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  6. Swallows by tsotha · · Score: 4, Funny

    The roll rate of a barn swallow exceeds 5,000 degrees per second.
    Is that, uh, African or European?
  7. Re:Missing tag. by Scumbumbo · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not so much impractical as pointless. Plus the swallow would not enjoy the experience.

  8. Re:Missing tag. by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Funny

    African or European A4 Skyhawk?

  9. Re:Missing tag. by MadKeithV · · Score: 5, Funny

    An African or a European swallow?

  10. Re:It's the people, not the planes. by fastest+fascist · · Score: 5, Funny

    More like 6000, you insensitive clod.

  11. Strange title by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Birds Give a Lesson to Plane Designers

    By crapping on their freshly washed cars?

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