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College Funding Bill Passes House, P2P Provision Intact

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "Ars Technica is reporting that the College Opportunity and Affordability Act passed through the House today with a vote of 354-58 and the anti-P2P provision is intact. That provision would require universities to filter P2P and to offer legal alternatives. They are claiming now, though, that universities would not lose federal funding if they fail to do this. Of course, an amendment that would have clarified that was withdrawn immediately after it was offered."

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  1. E Pluribus Denarium by Stanistani · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Our young adults are learning an important lesson - money talks.

  2. What's needed for this madness to stop by KublaiKhan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We need to find a way to make P2P distribution models legitimately profitable for the corporations that lobby in Washington for these asinine laws. I was under the impression that the Warcraft folks already had some kind of a P2P model going for distributing their patches and suchlike--perhaps other companies could be induced to do the same?

    Elsewise, it might become very popular and profitable to set up some kind of P2P-friendly VPN service, with endpoints just outside the DMZ of various college networks...

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    1. Re:What's needed for this madness to stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      They are just asking for completely decentralized encrypted network. Soon they'll get it.

  3. Sigh... by AndGodSed · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hands up all who are surprised and shocked. Hokay, slap yourself in the face nooby. My goodness delilah, I cannot believe you actually put up your hand! Are you so attention starved that you would willingly humiliate yourself in front of EVERYBODY in a manner that is as degrading as that!? Now stop staring at me with those fish eyes of yours and go uninstall all those supposed "legal" computer software that is crawling through that porn infested pile of junk you call a PC. Do you really think you'll be a programmer one day? *storms off in a huff* /cox rant...

  4. bad summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    Read the bill itself:

    http://edlabor.house.gov/bills/HEAReauthorizationText.pdf

    The relevant section:

    (a) DISCLOSURE OF POLICIES AND SANCTIONS RE-
    LATED TO COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.--Section
    485(a)(1) (20 U.S.C. 1092(a)(1)) is amended--
            (1) by striking ``and'' at the end of subpara-
        graph (N);
            (2) by striking the period at the end of sub-
        paragraph (O) and inserting ``: and'' ; and
            (3) by adding at the end the following new sub-
        paragraph:
                  ``(P) institutional policies and sanctions re-
            lated to copyright infringement, including--
                      ``(i) an annual disclosure that explic-
                  itly informs students that unauthorized
    distribution of copyrighted material, in-
    cluding unauthorized peer-to-peer file shar-
    ing, may subject the students to civil and
    criminal liabilities;
          ``(ii) a summary of the penalties for
    violation of Federal copyright laws;
          ``(iii) a description of the institution's
    policies with respect to unauthorized peer-
    to-peer file sharing, including disciplinary
    actions that are taken against students
    who engage in unauthorized distribution of
    copyrighted materials using the institu-
    tion's information technology system; and
          ``(iv) a description of actions that the
    institution takes to prevent and detect un-
    authorized distribution of copyrighted ma-
    terial on the institution's information tech-
    nology system.''.
    which is a patch to this.

    Looks like it simply means that the institution must disclose the policies etc. So they could simply say "we're doing nothing" and comply with the law.
  5. Here is some Clarification by Bimo_Dude · · Score: 5, Informative
    Looking at the text of the bill, it doesn't appear as though the institutions actually have to block p2p, but they "shall" [Must] develop a plans to explore options.

    FTB:

    SEC. 494. CAMPUS-BASED DIGITAL THEFT PREVENTION.

    (a) In General- Each eligible institution participating in any program under this title shall to the extent practicable--
    (1) make publicly available to their students and employees, the policies and procedures related to the illegal downloading and distribution of copyrighted materials required to be disclosed under section 485(a)(1)(P); and
    (2) develop a plan for offering alternatives to illegal downloading or peer-to-peer distribution of intellectual property as well as a plan to explore technology-based deterrents to prevent such illegal activity.

    See how your representative voted.

    Even so... IMHO this still opens the door to more Orwellian legislation, and provides further evidence of how industry pwnes our government.

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    1. Re:Here is some Clarification by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 5, Funny

      Technically, they could say,

      "Your alternative to illegal downloading is a ham sandwich. The plan is to have ham sandwiches be a mandatory part of the meal plan. "

      and it would follow the letter of the law, if not the spirit.

      There you go, every campus in the US. Where's my grant?

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    2. Re:Here is some Clarification by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Even so... IMHO this still opens the door to more Orwellian legislation, and provides further evidence of how industry pwnes our government.

      Sounds like you are too young (or too old) to remember the 1984 (apt year eh?) National Minimum Drinking Age Act which saw the US Federal Government force each state to raise the minimum drinking age to 21 ....... or face retaliation by way of reducing Federal aid for state highways. Hows that for Orwellian?
  6. Re:Students will pirate music, yet buy $60 games by Sciros · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It also comes down to value for the dollar. A student can get much more entertainment value out of a $60 game than out of 4 music CDs.

    The fact of the matter is, music has COMPETITION. The days of the $12 CD making sense are long, long gone. People aren't sitting around hoarding their money. No, they spend it on *other entertainment products* such as DVDs and video games. Look at how CD sales have dropped and how DVD/VG sales have risen over the past few years. To call it hypocrisy is BEYOND STUPID. You would have to stone cold batcrap bonkers to not realize it's a matter of the music industry being unable to compete for the entertainment dollars of its demographic.

    And yes, buying music like that would indeed make someone poor, or at least *feel* poor, because it is a POOR FINANCIAL CHOICE in the face of what the competition is offering. A movie costs as much as, or less, than its soundtrack much of the time. A game can offer a dorm's entire floor hours of entertainment and the game industry THRIVES on that, whereas the music industry does what it can to make sure that if a dorm's entire floor is to enjoy hours of music, it will cost not $60 but far more, trying their best to tie it not only to an individual, but to a particular device that individual owns.

    I don't even know why I'm taking the time to post this reply; if you had the intellectual capacity of a dixie cup you would have the sense to not post what you did.

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  7. Re:Free speech considerations.... by Catbeller · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Anyone else besides me think the SCOTUS would wipe that particular provision off the books the moment that Harvard, Yale, et. al go to war with the RIAA?"

    Not this SCOTUS. Bush loaded that quite well with pro-business judges. Young ones, too, so they'll be a probem for a half century or even more. Do not look for relief from the Imaginary Property crowd from those five. Reference Lawrence Lessig's noble attempt to void the 100+ year copyright by pointing out it was effectively eternal and thus violating the Constitution's design to release works into the public domain. The court's majority - not just Bushies, either -- stated that since the 100 years was a finite time period, the lockup was not technically eternal thus not violating the concept of release to the public domain. The sane counter that in 100 years time our descendants would not even understand what public domain was anymore, or that the future law would simply add another 100+ years, was lost on their ears. They are pro-business and pro-Imaginary Property.

  8. Not really a win. by gnutoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The part about filtering P2P is disturbing but there's are plenty of good legal alternatives to RIAA crap. I'd love to see every university mirror the Internet Archive, Creative Commons and promote work from people in their community. Let's take that part of this stupid law and make something cool that will continue to bleed the RIAA out of existence.

    1. Re:Not really a win. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let's take that part of this stupid law and make something cool that will continue to bleed the RIAA out of existence.
      So, we should just accept the fact that Congress is passing a bill for funding higher education that includes big financial bonuses for the entertainment industry? Lord knows, the record labels have done so much to help the intellectual enrichment of our nation's young people, right?

      Welfare for the rich, once again.

      With our government increasingly owned and operated by big business, it's no wonder that the one CEO that was running for president has been run out the race by a disgusted electorate. It seems like although many citizens could never elaborate fully on their instinctive negative reaction to Mr. Governor CEO, they know in their bones that there's a very very good reason NOT to have someone with experience in the corporate executive suite in the White House. Remember, these are the kind of people who get captive Boards of Directors to vote them 9-figure bonuses when the Company does poorly, while expecting "givebacks" from their workers and closing plants. That's the last kind of person we need running government at the moment.

      Forget separation of Church and State. It's time for separation of Industry and State. Increasingly, "Big Government" seems preferable to me to the "lean, mean, cut jobs, cut costs" approach that's brought on the "get mine and get out" attitudes of the leaders of commerce. It wasn't always this way. Yes, there were plenty of fat-cat Industrialists in the first part of the 20th century, but there was also a few truly patriotic business leaders who believed that you couldn't sell your product if your customers weren't working and making money to spend. This was replaced by the "if we can't sell cigarettes here, we'll sell them to the stupid third-worlders" mentality (notice the drastically increasing levels of tar and nicotine in the cigarettes sold in Africa and Asia).

      If we ever slide into full-scale class warfare in this country, there's not going to be a lot of pity for CEOs or their hired lobbyists or their fully-pwned elected officials.

      A bill in Congress for funding higher education that gives subsidies to the Entertainment Industry. Fucking Hell.
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  9. Re:*sigh* by cbart387 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now now. Here at slashdot we have balanced discussion where most people read the articles, keep the discussions on topic and don't bring up stupid 'memes' (that they think are clever).

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