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W3C Gets Excessive DTD Traffic

eldavojohn writes "It's a common string you see at the start of an HTML document, a URI declaring the type of document, but that is often processed causing undue traffic to W3C's site. There's a somewhat humorous post today from W3.org that seems to be a cry for sanity and asking developers and people to stop building systems that automatically query this information. From their post, 'In particular, software does not usually need to fetch these resources, and certainly does not need to fetch the same one over and over! Yet we receive a surprisingly large number of requests for such resources: up to 130 million requests per day, with periods of sustained bandwidth usage of 350Mbps, for resources that haven't changed in years. The vast majority of these requests are from systems that are processing various types of markup (HTML, XML, XSLT, SVG) and in the process doing something like validating against a DTD or schema. Handling all these requests costs us considerably: servers, bandwidth and human time spent analyzing traffic patterns and devising methods to limit or block excessive new request patterns. We would much rather use these assets elsewhere, for example improving the software and services needed by W3C and the Web Community.' Stop the insanity!"

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  1. Delay by erikina · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Have they tried delaying the response by 5 or 6 seconds? It could cause a lot of applications to hang pretty badly. That or just serve a completely nonsensical schema every thousandth request. Gotta keep developers on their toes.

  2. Re:Umm, no. by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At least what little code I've written to process HTML/XML has always entirely ignored the DTD.

    Don't be so sure- even if your own code ignores it. Unless you're dealing with it on a raw character level, with most XML libraries and frameworks it can be quite tricky to prevent DTDs from being resolved behind your back.

    I wrote some Java code a while back to parse some XML files that were downloaded from NCBI. Typical for NCBI data, this involved wading through terabytes of crap, and anything based on DOM wasn't going to work- so I used the lower level event-based SAX library in JAXP. The files did have DTD declarations in them pointing to NCBI, which I wanted to ignore, since this was a one-time data mining operation. I just examined some sample files, figured out pseudo-XPath expressions for what I wanted to pull out, set up a simple state machine to stumble through the SAX events, and not caring about the DTD, cleared the namespace-aware and validating flags on the SAXParserFactory. So I ended up with this:

    File xmlgz = new File("ncbi_diarrhea.xml.gz");
    DefaultHandler myHandler = new MyNCBIStateMachineHandler();
    GZIPInputStream gzos = new GZIPInputStream(new FileInputStream(xmlgz));
    SAXParserFactory spf = SAXParserFactory.newInstance();
    spf.setValidating(false);
    spf.setNamespaceAware(false);
    SAXParser sp = spf.newSAXParser();
    InputSource input = new InputSource(gzos);
    sp.parse(input, handler);

    This ran fine, until it mysteriously froze up 18 hours into the run. It turned out to be caused by our switch to a different ISP, during which time the building lost its outside network access. The thread picked up the next file and immediately got blocked in the SAX library, trying to resolve the NCBI DTD.

    This is how I fixed it:

    spf.setFeature("http://xml.org/sax/features/external-general-entities", false);
    spf.setFeature("http://xml.org/sax/features/external-parameter-entities", false);


    Now I'm sure someone is going to come on here calling me a noob for not knowing to use an XMLReaderFactory (or whatever XML API class isn't obsolete this week) and setting a custom EntityResolver that can provide my local copy of the NCBI DTD when presented with its URI, but why should I even have to bother with that? XML pretends to be simple but it's seriously messed up.