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Mac OS X 10.5.2 Update Brings Welcome Fixes
jetpack writes to make sure we're aware that Apple's OS X 10.5.2 update is available and that it contains plenty of improvements and fixes that users have been asking for. Macworld enumerates some of the big ones, saying that the update "shows Apple listens to users" (sometimes). A couple of the new features simply restore Tiger (10.4) capabilities that Leopard (10.5) had inexplicably withdrawn. You can now shut off the much-maligned transparency of the menu bar, and organize your Dock stacks hierarchically and display them as folders. And Apple has provided welcome access to common Time Machine functions in the menu bar.
I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you Leopard fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a Mac (a Core 2 Duo iMac w/2 GB of RAM) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to back up a 17 GB iPhoto library from a folder on the hard drive to my Time Capsule. 20 minutes. At home, on my Sawtooth G4 400 running MacOS 8.6, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this Mac, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.
In addition, during this file transfer, Safari will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even Terminal is straining to keep up as I type this.
I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various OS X Macs, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a WinMac that has run faster than its PowerPC counterpart, despite the WinTel's faster chip architecture. My PowerPC 5200/75 with 8 megs of ram runs faster than this 2.0 ghz machine at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that Leopard is a superior operating system.
Leopard addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use OS X over other the faster, cheaper and more stable 8.6.
Will Time Machine do differential backups now?
BTW, why is it that a Leoptard service pack is ZOMGIWANTTOHAVESTEVEJOBSMANBABYAMAZINGHAVETOHAVEIT!!!!!... while Vista SP1 is maligned? Just compare how long Vista has been out with how long Leoptard has been out, and it becomes even more apparent which company released a functioning product, and which one required a desperate emergency update.
But on the plus side, at least Apple isn't charging for this particular point release update. You know it had to have been discussed, of course.
Yes, I read TFA!! And WOW! What amazing upgrades!!!
1) The return of hierarchical Dock menus!!! In Panther and Tiger, you could place a folder in the Dock and then navigate that folders contents right there in the folders own hierarchical menu!!! OMG! OMG!
2) The return of a Non-transparent menu bar!!!! Yes! A checkbox so that your menu bar won't be transparent!!! OMG! OMG!
3) And, and, and!!! A Time Machine menu-bar indicator!!! OMG! OMG!
That's it, I'm going out TOMORROW to buy Leopard for my Powerbook! I am SO excited by these amazing innovative changes!!!!
OMfuckingG!!!!! I just wet myself I'[m so EXCITED!
Three Squirrels
There's something prophetic there...
How long were the PCers of the corporate world promised Vista (when they clearly didn't want it or need it?)
I started on OS X 10.1.0 (admittedly mot the greatest [but still a lot better than OS 8.x]) back in 2001.
Its now 2008 and I have had every point update (okay, I've spent around $500 over the past seven years but I didn't MIND it.)
Now I just installed the update without any pain.
In the same time my ex-employers and clients would only change to a new version of Windows when the old one was EOL'd.
Now that people WANT to upgrade (maybe NOT for the of best of reasons,) they CAN'T.
One of us is happy.
One of us must be starting to feel like a real schmuck by now.
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Haha I salute you sir! Well done!
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a shitty mod and his points are soon parted. MOD ME DOWN BITCHES!
Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
Just downloaded the OS X 10.5.2 Leopard update. Apple says in includes loads of bug fixes, but I don't feel a real change. Actually, I have a hunch that it might have slow down the system. Did anyone feel the same? http://www.pollsb.com/polls/poll/6331/apple-releases-os-x-10-5-2-update
I administer an apple x server at work,
Xserve, running OS X Server.
Also, apple doesn't come with a standard VNC server, instead it uses VNC with some proprietary shit built in, so I had to install vine server to get a remote desktop.
MacOS X Server does in fact come with a standard VNC server. You need to enable it and set a password.
Oh wait, the X Serve doesn't play nice with a standard KVM
See one of my bug reports here.
Samba is not in OS X Server.
The three xServes I've worked on over the years on 2 different KVMs have worked just fine- in fact, better than the HP rackmount gear- this includes high-end Raritan stuff and low-end "iogear" stuff. Maybe you have a crappy KVM, or you haven't configured it properly.
Oh yeah, last but not least, the server crashes. It responds to pings, still responds to local terminal input, but anything that requires authentication is dead in the water. So that leaves mail, netbios, ssh, server admin, work group manager, etc etc all dead. I think the LDAP server is crapping out, but I haven't been able to prove it yet. I've had to hard boot the server half a dozen times in the last two weeks.
Then stop whining and fix the problem, chief. Wipe the box and reinstall with a restore (easy to do with Time Machine) and then if that doesn't work, call Apple and have the machine serviced.
Please help metamoderate.
I've read its possible to get it to work, but it doesn't work out of the box with a standard VNC client.
You're still completely wrong. GO INTO THE PREFERENCES. ENABLE VNC. ENTER A PASSWORD. CONNECT WITH A VNC CLIENT. WOW. LOOK AT THAT, PRESTO AMAZO.
It has been that way for *YEARS*. The post you're linking to refers to the *APPLE RDC PROTOCOL*. *****NOT APPLE'S VNC SERVER*****.
So your solution to software bugs is to reinstall the OS? It sounds to me like you have spent too much time maintaining Windows machines.
No, jackass. You're not qualified/experienced enough to do advanced troubleshooting, so it's a waste of your employer's time to have you spend hours futzing around on Google- especially since such a problem is extremely uncommon. If it's corrupted software, it'll be fixed with a reinstall, and restoring from Time Machine is quick and painless. If it's bad hardware, it'll still show up on a fresh install. If you try to get the machine serviced, Apple's first question will be, "so did you reinstall the OS from scratch?".
Maybe stupid college kids like yourself would be wise to listen to people who have not only been in your shoes, but spent 10 years getting wiser. Start reinstalling today, and the problem has a 50% chance of being fixed by 5pm. Keep going at your "whine on the intertubes" strategy, and you'll have a 100% chance of it still being broken.
PS:Ubuntu sucks. Everyone we upgraded had massive problems with network cards, graphics adapters, and printer issues. Not a single 10.3, 10.4, or 10.5 upgrade I have performed has gone sour, and I've done *hundreds.*
Please help metamoderate.
this, along with the lack of options to turn off the safari/'downloaded app' nag screens and the removal of split term view, is a slap in the face to advanced users.
for god sake apple, even windows me had better theming support than leopard offers. At least make an API available to let third party devs offer theming tools, especially considering leopard is by far the UGLIEST os since os9.x If I want uniform grey i'll move back to detroit! Someone on Versiontracker called it "Ex Soviet block style"
Well, they say Unsanity will ship APE for Leopard one day as well as Shapeshifter. So here comes the days of getting blamed for every single crash because you have dared to change your "Steve Jobs says it looks cool" look.
So, face the reality, Apple doesn't like people changing how their OS X looks. It looks like a PR or almost political thing rather than a technical issue. As result, you hack your dynamic library loader. Every idiotic developer who doesn't have a clue about "threads" will blame you for it. You will still have chance to disable APE and reproduce same crash to developers face.
All this because some suit at Apple doesn't like idea of unique OS X widgets. Funny is, they don't know the Apple history enough. It was always the same deal. Apple locks UI, some developer finds a way to change UI (Kaleidoscope), people download it enough to make it top download. Same people get blamed for hacking their UI in case a problem occurs.
Perhaps some should code a hardcore hack such as backing up OS files, replacing them with new ones for theme change. It _is not_ safe. It has never been. That is why APE exists or Kaleidoscope existed on pre OS X.
Windows 95 "Plus!" introduced the themes to Windows 95. Poor thing could change colour scheme, couple of icons, mouse pointer and wallpaper but it was Windows 95. The most advanced desktop UI on planet can't change a single colour scheme without getting hacked. Not funny even.
E'hem, I'm sure Apple is hard at work to make this the best OSX product ever, and all the bugs are minor I'm sure, Steve Jobs is just the BEST, he's my B.F.F.!
How do you do you see the screen to type while giving Apple a rim job at the same time?
Apple Fan boys are amazing.