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How Spam Was Done 70 Years Ago

bitrex writes "Modern Mechanix recently ran a reprint of a 1934 article describing the problem of offshore pirate radio stations broadcasting advertisements and drowning out local, licensed radio programs. 'The primary purpose of the unlicensed broadcast station was to advertise the gambling, liquor, and other dubious pleasure activities of the ship upon which it was built ... they found other sundry rackets, such as a fortune telling program ... After numerous unsuccessful attempts of a local nature, the floating broadcasting establishment was silenced, but only after the state department at Washington, D. C, had made diplomatic representations which forced a Central American country to cancel the ship's registry.' The article also has a great artist's conception of what might be called a machine age 'data haven' bobbing in international waters in the Gulf of Mexico."

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  1. Bender Radio by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    The primary purpose of the unlicensed broadcast station was to advertise the gambling, liquor, and other dubious pleasure activities ... Fine, I don't need the FCC! I'm going to start my own radio station ... with blackjack ... and hookers. In fact, forget the radio station!
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    My work here is dung.
    1. Re:Bender Radio by stormguard2099 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Lern th quote eh, screw the whole thing
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  2. And before that by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ...it was done with printed playbills. That's why so many cities had to pass playbill laws to keep every huckster from posting flyers on every surface (you can still see the fading "Post no bills" paint on many old city walls).

    There is nothing new under the sun. You can always find "people being people" throughout history. And bad people are always looking for some angle to exploit the masses.

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    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    1. Re:And before that by sm62704 · · Score: 4, Funny

      (you can still see the fading "Post no bills" paint on many old city walls).

      I need to put that on my mailbox.

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      mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
    2. Re:And before that by Justus · · Score: 2, Informative

      As far as I know there's no universal "don't send me junk mail" program, but there are a couple lists you can sign up for that will dramatically reduce the amount of junk mail you receive.

      To get rid of most "pre-approved" credit card offers, there's an official opt-out program. This is free and it does, in fact, work.

      To get rid of a bunch of other junk mail (like catalogs etc), you can add yourself to the Direct Marketing Association's opt-out list at their website. This used to cost a small amount ($1, I think), but it's now free--they ask for a credit card number only for verification purposes. I guess they wouldn't want an interested party to suddenly find themselves bereft of junk mail or something.

      Between those two, you're pretty much covered. I signed up for both of them and I receive very little unwanted mail.

  3. Learned something by techpawn · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess that gives a literal meaning to the term "pirate radio" eh?

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  4. They're sane by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is it about spammers and tropical areas?

    If you have to relocate to international waters, and you have a choice of tropical paradise or freezing your ass off somewhere in tbe North Atlantic, that's not a really tough call.

    Also, from a practical standpoint, there's just a ton of countries bordering on the Gulf/Caribbean and finding one sympathetic to your plight (or more likely, one who will take some of your money in exchange for looking the other way) shouldn't be hard. On the other hand, in the North Atlantic or in the Pacific offshore of the US all you've got is Canadia and Mexico, our good NAFTA buddies who wouldn't foster such shenanigans. At least, not for the relatively paltry sums that spammers have at their disposal (compared to, say, oil companies).

  5. I liked the ads in the sidebars by JoeD · · Score: 3, Funny

    "New Deal Government Jobs!"

    I want me one of them.

  6. The Future of SPAM? by Mickyfin613 · · Score: 5, Funny

    As per Futurama - In the future, SPAM will be broadcast directly into our dreams. "That's awful!" says Fry. "It's like brainwashing." "Didn't you have ads in the 20th century?" asks Leela. "Not in our dreams!" replies Fry. "Only on TV and radio. And in magazines. And movies. And at ballgames. And on buses. And milk cartons. And t-shirts. And bananas. And written on the sky. But not in dreams! No sirree!"

  7. dubious? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Funny

    gambling, liquor, and other dubious pleasures There's nothing dubious about them.

    1. Re:dubious? by UncHellMatt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, but can you imagine what spam could be like back then, if combined with current methods?

      "L00k at th3se Ankl3s!"
      "H4wt babe shoz her SH0ULDER!"
      "Get UR sn4k3 0ilz heer. CH3APZ!"

  8. We Didn't Start The Fire by davidwr · · Score: 3, Funny

    With apologies to Billy Joel

    Green Cards, Spamford, Snake Oil, these guys,
    Michael Lindsay, Nigeria, Get Rich Quick Today.

    CHORUS
    We didn't start the fire...

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    Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
  9. Re:Gulf of Mexico? by Yvanhoe · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is the new Piracy. Spammers of the Spanish Main! Yarrrr!

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    The Wise adapts himself to the world. The Fool adapts the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the Fool.
  10. Spam is eternal by El+Yanqui · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Economist had an article a month or so ago about spam over the new invention of the telegraph. Several wealthy men in London were awakened late one evening by a telegram. Believing it to be of importance, after all only something important would be sent so late, they anxiously read it.

    It was from a dentist. It was advertising his services.

    The men were outraged, obviously and started the first campaign against spam. The point is that this is hardly shocking. It's always been around, but is simply much more prevelant now with the ease of email. I remember being a kid before caller ID and call blocking and getting lots of telemarketer phone calls at our house. Sometimes we got the door to door salesmen. Times change, spam doesn't.

    I'm sure eventually we'll all get email spam problem licked. Then we'll have to deal with ads for Lightspeed Briefs beamed directly into our dreams.

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    Well, thanks to the Internet, I'm now bored with sex.
    1. Re:Spam is eternal by eln · · Score: 2

      Personally, I can deal with spam a lot easier than I can deal with junk mail, telemarketers, or door to door salesmen.

      As for eventually getting the spam problem licked, I doubt we'll ever be able to get rid of it completely. Right now, for most people it's basically reduced to the status of background noise, and I'm fine with it being there. My bulk mail folder gets hundreds of messages a day, but I only see 2 or 3 a day in my main Inbox, and that's on a Yahoo account that I've had for like 9 or 10 years and used on countless websites. If I could eliminate telemarketers and especially door to door salesmen in exchange for double the amount of email spam, I'd take that deal in a heartbeat.

  11. Complete with piano and lounge! by LoadWB · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Screw the technology of broadcasting, I want to know how these pirates steadied a piano and a full lounge on a floating radio station. This design would not "float" these days: no cubicles and no manager's office.

    I notice that there are also no engineer or crew quarters. Fun lot, these pirates! And what, no Marconi and cross-bones flag?

    This seems as outlandish as some of the scare tactics used now to "warn" us about terrorism. I bet people were just as gullible then as they are now. Really, just stick to the facts, and stop making sh!t up, please.

    Not to mention the method of nailing domestic "radio pirates." The pirates claim that their meager 5w output does not cross state lines. The government uses super-high-sensitivity detection equipment to prove that the signals do indeed cross state lines. Seems a bit nit-pickish to me, as the average Joe Radio would pick up more powerful stations. But, as Bureaucrat Number 1.0 says, "you are technically correct - the best kind of correct."

  12. Wolfman Jack Blasting At You... by SEWilco · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is also how Wolfman Jack became famous, blasting across the Mexican border with 250,000 watts (legal, but five times more power than U.S. clear channel stations could use).

  13. I think I might have liked that by misterthirsty · · Score: 2, Funny

    I for one would enjoy Terry Gross trying to sell me penis enlargement pills. In other news...

  14. it's a shame this era is lost really by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Funny

    because according to their broadcasts, these guys had perfected a way to increase penis size with nothing but radio waves

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    intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
  15. 1934 form letter by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your post advocates a

    ( ) technical (X) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante

    approach to defeating the menace of playbills. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before FDR passed a new law.)

    ( ) Bill posters can easily use it to harvest better locations
    ( ) Billboards and other legitimate posters would be affected
    (X) No one will be able to find the knave or collect the money
    ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
    ( ) It will stop playbills for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
    ( ) Users of large surfaces will not put up with it
    ( ) Sears will not put up with it
    ( ) The police will not put up with it
    ( ) Requires too much cooperation from playbill posters
    ( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
    ( ) Many postboard users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
    ( ) Playbill posters don't care about unusable surfaces in their plans
    ( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's job or business

    Specifically, your plan fails to account for

    ( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it
    (X) Lack of centrally controlling authority for flat surfaces in public view
    (X) Undocumented aliens who post the playbills
    ( ) Ease of searching tiny set of all flat surfaces in the area
    ( ) Men of ill repute
    (X) Jurisdictional problems
    ( ) Unpopularity of fanciful new taxes
    ( ) Public reluctance to accept fanciful money not backed by gold
    ( ) Huge existing capital investment in buildings
    ( ) Susceptibility of buildings without flat surfaces to collapse
    ( ) Willingness of users to read playbills whilst passing by
    (X) Legions of unattended buildings
    ( ) Eternal arms race involved in all mointoring approaches
    ( ) Extreme profitability of playbill posting
    (X) Forgery of others' names
    ( ) Politicians ill-informed of new-fangled devices
    ( ) Extreme foolishness on the part of people who buy from playbill advertisements
    ( ) Dishonesty on the part of playbill posters themselves
    ( ) Labor costs that are unaffected by careful monitoring
    ( ) Tacks and glue

    and the following philosophical objections may also apply:

    (X) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown workable
    ( ) Any scheme based on requirement to leave the program is intolerable
    ( ) Legislation of bold message headings is not Constitutionally authorized
    ( ) Blacklists are humbug
    ( ) Whitelists are humbug
    ( ) We should be able to talk about alcohol without being censored
    ( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or check fraud
    ( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public areas
    ( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
    ( ) Posting messages should be free
    ( ) Why should we have to trust you and your file warehouses?
    (X) Jolly-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
    ( ) Temporary/one-time postal addresses are cumbersome
    ( ) Killing them that way is not tortuous enough

    Furthermore, this is what I think about you:

    (X) Sorry friend, but I don't think it would work.
    ( ) This is a confounded idea, and you're a confounded person for suggesting it.
    ( ) Nice try, knave! I shall find out where you live and burn your rental down forthright!

    1. Re:1934 form letter by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 5, Funny

      While I found your post to be most mirthful you have regrettably caused some of my finest porter, that I happened to be imbibing while perusing this emporium, to spill upon my stenographical apparatus.

      To whom, sir, should I direct the invoice?

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      It's true I tell you, feller at work's next door neighbour read it in the paper.