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SCO Goes Private With $100 Million Backing

AmIAnAi writes "Just when you thought it was all over, the SCO story takes a new twist. SCO has received $100 million financing from Stephen Norris Capital Partners to get them out of Chapter 11 and go private 'The move gives Stephen Norris, whose namesake founder was a co-founder of private equity giant The Carlyle Group, a controlling interest in SCO, which now has a platform to continue its court battle with Novell Inc. over royalties from the Unix server operating system, SCO's main business ... According to a statement from the company, SNCP already has a business plan for SCO that includes pursuing its legal claims.'"

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  1. Look for more Microsoft money behind by Scareduck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... the Stephen Norris group. When do the judges get sick of barratry?

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    1. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 2, Funny

      Naw, this is just the continued confluence of two shitty (and shittily implemented) concepts: patents and capitalism, coming together to form one big hole of crap.

      Y'know, this is the first time I wish Slashdot was more like fark, so I could post that pic of the guy saying "Aw geez, not this shit again!"

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    2. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by sabt-pestnu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Let's see...

      The lawyers, always looking to have full time guaranteed employment, instead of working on contract or speculation...

      Anyone who wants those lawyers busy on THOSE suits, and not THESE suits...

      And, of course, the more usual suspects and /. punching bags...

    3. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by josephdrivein · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I may believe you, but it would surely help if you would be kind enough to provide some proof.

    4. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 4, Funny

      Anyone who wants those lawyers busy on THOSE suits, and not THESE suits... Yeah, there's such a shortage of lawyers.
    5. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by Otter · · Score: 5, Informative

      My recollection is that the bin Laden family (not Osama) had a trivial stake in Carlyle, and that both President Bushes have served on its board. The GP's "the Carlyle Group is mostly Bush and bin Laden money" is wildly exaggerated, to put it mildly, although I'd be curious to hear more of his theories about "who might actually be doing what, and what's at stake".

    6. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, the Carlyle Group is mostly Bush and bin Laden money, or at least it used to be. Sort of makes you wonder who might actually be doing what, and what's at stake...

      I may believe you, but it would surely help if you would be kind enough to provide some proof.
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    7. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by deanoaz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >>> The GP's "the Carlyle Group is mostly Bush and bin Laden money" is wildly exaggerated, to put it mildly

      So, you're saying Michael Moore is not a trustworthy source?

      Who'da thunk it!

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    8. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by AHuxley · · Score: 5, Interesting
      http://www.uwec.edu/geography/ivogeler/w111/articles/carlyle.html

      Where top Bush administration types meet the members of the family of Usama bin Laden.

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    9. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by Amiga+Trombone · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, the Carlyle Group is mostly Bush and bin Laden money, or at least it used to be. Sort of makes you wonder who might actually be doing what, and what's at stake...

      Especially considering Lou Gerstner, former CEO of IBM, is on the board of the Carlyle Group. That's a bit of a WTF moment right there...

    10. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Funny
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    11. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by didaho · · Score: 2, Informative

      Amazing that in one line people create a [false] connection with UBL and two US Presidents, but these same lefty conspiracy theorists never mention the reported 100Million deal between the Clintons and the Dubai Royalty. Notice that HRC has not disclosed her taxes, even though she falsely claimed she "routinely" does. And no one is asking where she got that 5million to loan her campaign.... Meanwhile -- FYI : the Carlyle Group is run by Louis G and its list of management and partners do not mention Bush 41 or 43 or UBL. (Louis G of Nabisco and IBM success, BTW.) Team Members Chairman Louis V. Gerstner, Jr. Founders William E. Conway, Jr. Daniel A. D'Aniello David M. Rubenstein

    12. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 2, Informative
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group#Controversy

      In the book House of Bush, House of Saud, author Craig Unger states that Saudi Arabian interests have given $1.4 billion to firms connected to the Bush family. Nearly 85% of the $1.4 billion, or about $1.18 billion, refers to Saudi Arabian government contracts awarded to defense contractor BDM in the early to mid 1990s. Carlyle, however, sold its interest in BDM before former President George H. W. Bush joined as an advisor. Although, it should be noted that Bush family confidant James A. Baker was on the board when the interests were sold.[citation needed].

      The Saudi Arabian relatives of Osama bin Laden were also investors in Carlyle until October 2001 when the family sold its $2.02 million investment back to the firm in light of the public controversy surrounding bin Laden's family after the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001. The bin Laden family has publicly disowned the al-Qaeda leader.[5] Osama bin Laden has no publicly known or acknowledged economic interest in Saudi Binladin Group (SBG), whose investments were in part managed by the Carlyle Group until the arrangement was terminated by mutual consent.

    13. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by Stormwatch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Perhaps an LOLZ cat with some sort of SCO gear near it:
      I'm in y0ur patentz, stiflin' your inn0vations
      Here it is, with McBride himself. Good enough?
      ~ http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lolmcbridelj8.jpg
    14. Re:Look for more Microsoft money behind by iocat · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're looking at this the wrong way. Don't think of it as SCO getting funding to continue to irritate all of us, think of it as a new lease of life for GrokLaw!!

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  2. damn Damn DAMN! by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    Man oh man...

    This news completely ruins my day.

    I just know that tonight while my lady is receiving the annual ~Valentine Fisting~ my mind will be on SCO and their ridiculous lawsuits, not on the work at hand. She'll know something is bugging me, get pissed off and make me stop. I'll have KY to my elbows for nothing.

    Thanks SCO.

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    1. Re:damn Damn DAMN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Just make it into a fantasy game. You're SCO, she's the open source community, the KY is SNCP's contribution... oddly enough, the image hash to post this comment anon is "uncouth". Interesting. :)

    2. Re:damn Damn DAMN! by dexomn · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're the man. =)

    3. Re:damn Damn DAMN! by Nimey · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'll have KY to my elbows for nothing. That's no lady, that's a goatse!
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  3. Brilliant! by TheOldSchooler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What kind of genius investment group thinks sueing IBM is a winning proposition?

    1. Re:Brilliant! by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's not about winning money. It's about making sure SCO's corporate veil isn't pierced.

      If that hive of villainry fails, some of their dealings could see the daylight. And at least a couple of big companies are really interested in making sure this doesn't happen. So they funnel money into the sinking ship to keep it afloat or make it sink in a secluded place -- it's better to lose some cash than have the dirt revealed.

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    2. Re:Brilliant! by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

      They're business plan isn't ONLY suing IBM. From what I can gather from the article, it's a brilliant and guaranteed to succeed three-pronged approach involving suing IBM, suing Novell, and selling a product no one has used for 15 years. They can't lose!

    3. Re:Brilliant! by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What kind of genius investment group thinks sueing IBM is a winning proposition? One with a largely infinite supply of money.

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    4. Re:Brilliant! by MsGeek · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, they have other things in mind, like their new line of Japanese food containers! Yes, it's true! SCO is now in the Bento business!

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    5. Re:Brilliant! by orclevegam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Someone needs to take these people outback and beat some sense into them. How much of a moron do you need to be to take a look at the smoking crater that's left of SCO and decide that it looks like a good investment of $100M. Shit, take that money and put it into a random startup, your at least as likely to get your money back, if not more so, and they'd be more deserving of it.

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    6. Re:Brilliant! by glittalogik · · Score: 2, Funny

      The hundred million dollars isn't for litigation, it's to cover the electricity required to shred every incriminating document in the building.

    7. Re:Brilliant! by Nimey · · Score: 4, Funny

      Chairs. Lots of chairs.

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  4. Yikes by locokamil · · Score: 2, Funny

    Man oh man, talk about a massive waste of money. Does SCO even produce anything anymore? I thought SCO was basically Darl in a hotel room somewhere with two of hookers doubling as his "legal team"...

    1. Re:Yikes by milsoRgen · · Score: 4, Informative

      Does SCO even produce anything anymore? Well yes... UnixWare, OpenServer and Smallfoot.

      Certiainly doesn't look like a winning product portfolio, well not in their hands at least.
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    2. Re:Yikes by samkass · · Score: 4, Interesting

      When looking at companies, the products are important but only as indicators as to the people behind them. When Amazon was losing money hand over fist, its shares were still sky-high because people believed that Jeff Bezos and his team were a good bet. I can't imagine how anyone could feel that, after everything, SCO could possibly have assembled a $100M team. I don't know how to say this without offending the dozens of people left at SCO, but you'd have to have some form of brain damage, or be really, really desperate for gainful employment to still work there.

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    3. Re:Yikes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't know. I was talking to someone whose spouse still worked there. We mentioned the lawsuit (peripherally, not really wanting to bring it up since I figured it would be a sore subject).

      They started talking about how IBM and Novel stole a whole bunch of their Intellectual Property and put it into Linux, and how Linux is nothing but a bunch a thieves.

      I just sat there biting my tongue and changed the subject quickly, but it was really odd talking to someone "on the other side of the fence" who was a developer, and not in management.

    4. Re:Yikes by OldManAndTheC++ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They started talking about how IBM and Novel stole a whole bunch of their Intellectual Property and put it into Linux, and how Linux is nothing but a bunch a thieves.

      Unbridled arrogance combined with a complete disconnection from reality? There is only one explanation -- SCO has been taken over by Scientology.

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  5. So what else does SNCP own by Ldir · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... that we can boycott? (Or is Microsoft, in fact, at the root of it?)

  6. Obligatory by Philodoxx · · Score: 5, Funny

    Step 1. Pile money onto a sinking ship

    Step 2. ???

    Step 3. Profit!

    I have a very poor financial outlook for the near future, why can't somebody give me $100 million? Hell, I'll use that to make legal claims about somebody else's IP! I can probably even develop an operating system nobody in their right mind would use.

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    1. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Step 1. Pile money onto a sinking ship

      Step 2. ???

      Step 3. Profit! Enough with the vista jokes already!
  7. Calm down, everyone by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative
    It's abundantly clear that SCO's court case isn't going anywhere and this is a really poor investment. I agree that we should look for who is back-stoping the investment (as last time), because nobody in their right mind would make this investment expecting to make a profit. I don't think it's even worthwhile for FUD value any longer. We've essentially won this case already, there isn't really any going back.

    Bruce

    1. Re:Calm down, everyone by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think, in a backwards way, it's a good thing. There's some concern in some quarters that SCO evaporating before the questions it raised would leave those questions unanswered, and that someone might try this stunt again. Now everything, including what SCO owes Novell, will get a full hearing.

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    2. Re:Calm down, everyone by ricardo.fng · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A quick check of the Stephen Norris Capital Partners Website elucidates their business model:
      White men, models of conservative grooming and sartorial conventionality, sit around smoking crack and wearing propeller hats, while trying to concoct surrealistic investment strategies that will attract additional investors for their partnership. Or, perhaps they are holding patents for a way to convert millions in wasted litigation and the accompanying legal briefs into Green Energy.
      http://www.snpartners.com/
      Gosh, is anybody else ready for this to just stop? Did somebody play a mean trick and make the dead horse twitch so somebody would want to beat it some more? SCO=Silly Corporate Overindulgence? Shortage of Clues Obvious? Serious Conspiracy Overload?

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    3. Re:Calm down, everyone by TheLinuxSRC · · Score: 2, Funny

      Remember, there were some theories in 2003 that SCO had filed the initial $1 billion suit as a ploy to get purchased by IBM. IBM could have ended it there with a purchase, which might have cost them less in the long run than paying their lawyers, and would have arguably gained them some assets. Instead they recognized the larger issues at stake and took a principled stand, fighting this out so that all the facts of the case would come to light (and the facts rarely flatter SCO).

      As much as I would like to believe that IBM had altruistic interests in taking this to court, I find that hard to believe. First of all that is a hard sell to the board of directors. More importantly though is the fact that IBM did not want to set a precedent of buying up companies that sue them. In fact, I would go so far as to say that IBM went to court simply to give any other company considering this tactic a reason to not proceed. There is a reason that IBM's lawyers are referred to as the Nazgul.

      I was startled to hear the thundering of hooves. Having lived near Armonk, NY all my life, I had never heard such a sound before.
      "What is that horrible sound?"
      "That is the sound of the Black Steeds riding west from Armonk."
      "The Black Steeds?"
      "The Nazgul. They once were men. Now they are neither dead nor alive. They are IBM's attorneys."

  8. Norris? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Funny

    When I mis-read it, I thought: "Chuck Norris can make SCO viable!".

    I'm glad it's just *Stephen* Norris.

  9. $100 Million by C_Kode · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lets take inventory.

    * Taking a beating in court.
    * Its only valid business is a dying operating system.
    * Your customers and pretty the entire tech industry hates you.
    * The company is in chapter 11.
    * The company has a negative cash flow.
    * The judge in your case appears to hate you because of your court practices.
    * I hate you.

    Yeah, lets throw $100 million at them...

  10. Connect the dots by RichMan · · Score: 5, Interesting

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    http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/02/12/bloomberg/bxfour.php

    NEW YORK: Four Seasons Hotels, the manager of 74 luxury hotels, said Monday that it had agreed to be taken private by Bill Gates, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal and the chief executive for $3.8 billion, including debt.

    Coincedence?
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    Who is Stephen Norris,

    http://www.snpartners.com/norris.html

    Looks like there could very easily be some behind the curtain financing of this through foreign nationals.

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    Mr. Norris acted as a principal financial advisor to Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal Al Saud of Kingdom Holding Company, in structuring and negotiating the re-capitalization of Citibank, which returned over $15 billion in profits on about $590 million of equity invested. He also advised or played a key role in other Kingdom Holding Company investments. He was appointed by former president George H.W. Bush and confirmed by the U.S. Senate to serve as one of five governing members of the $100 billion Federal Retirement System Thrift Investment Board.

    Since 1997, Mr. Norris, and certain members of his team, have worked on a number of investments including real estate investments in Europe and the United States. They were involved in amongst others the privatization of Thompson CSF, the recapitalization of Suez, the acquisition of portions of Credit Foncier's real estate portfolio in Paris by the German firm of IVG, the formation of Nomura's (London) bid for a Dutch mortgage bank, the offer by a major Saudia Arabian investment firm for Lamborgini in Italy, and the formation of a bid by Leucadia International's for the Labouchere Bank in Holland. He also negotiated and structured investments in Synxis Corporation, which was backed by George Soros and Mr. Norris, and MARC Global Holdings.
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  11. Oh good by Morkano · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh good, looks like Novell and IBM can acually get some money out of SCO now.

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  12. Legal Claims by Bonker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    According to a statement from the company, SNCP already has a business plan for SCO that includes pursuing its legal claims.


    My understanding was that the company imploded because it was ruled that they did not own the Unix copyright, upon which the majority of its legal claims were based. What legal claims could they possibly have left?

    Also, buying a company for the sake of being able to earn legal awards should be illegal, strictly as a matter of financial sanitation. A good solution to this would be a statute that makes a buyer liable for claims up to the amount he paid for the company, but make both him and the company unable to claim any rewards in suits pending on the company's behalf.
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  13. Well, there's one bunch that's going to be happy.. by Jay+Maynard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Novell is now assured of getting every penny they've got coming to them.

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  14. oblig by nih · · Score: 2, Funny

    i for one welcome our new SCO rescuing overlo...no, wait, ffs!

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  15. It gets better by Scareduck · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Looks like one of their senior people is in with George Soros. So they have potentially some very serious money behind them now.

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    1. Re:It gets better by Marcos+Eliziario · · Score: 4, Funny

      US$100m isn't already serious money?
      Poors.... They always amaze me with such comments.
      When I read such statements, I seriously consider stopping reading /.
      A life of yatches, women, Lamborghinis, women, gulfstream jets, women, casinos and women is already hard enough without seeing such kind of king.
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    2. Re:It gets better by DrSkwid · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm so poor, I've never even heard of yatches!

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  16. dons tinfoil hat... by Orthuberra · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The same Carlyle Group that the president's dad is a part of? Expect anti-terror operations against linux users to commence.


    -sarcasm?

  17. Wrong. That's the Bushes behind that move. by leftie · · Score: 5, Informative

    "The Big Guys Work For The Carlyle Group
    What exactly does it do?

    To find out, we peeked down the rabbit hole.

    FORTUNE Monday, March 18, 2002

    The Carlyle Group, a Washington, D.C., buyout firm, is one of the nation's largest defense contractors. It has billions of dollars at its disposal and employs a few important people. Maybe you've heard of them: former Secretary of State Jim Baker, former Secretary of Defense Frank Carlucci, and former White House budget director Dick Darman. Wait, we're just getting warmed up. William Kennard, who recently headed the FCC, and Arthur Levitt, who just left the SEC, also work for Carlyle. As do former British Prime Minister John Major and former Philippines President Fidel Ramos. Let's see, are we forgetting anyone? Oh, right, former President George Herbert Walker Bush is on the payroll too..."

    http://www.carlylegroup.net/thebigguys.htm

    So now the Bushes are going to send Jim Baker to court to steal Linux.

    1. Re:Wrong. That's the Bushes behind that move. by sentientbeing · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh yeah? Well weve got Linus, the south African spaceman dude and that guy with the long hair
       
      The presidents are toast.

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    2. Re:Wrong. That's the Bushes behind that move. by CrazedWalrus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Holy shit. The Carlyle Group is the Illuminati! ;-)

    3. Re:Wrong. That's the Bushes behind that move. by Alsee · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's just what they want you to think.

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    4. Re:Wrong. That's the Bushes behind that move. by pionzypher · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dear sentientbeing,

      Thank you dear sir for the shower of soda.

      Yours Truly,
      pionzyphers keyboard.

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  18. quoting Groklaw by christian.einfeldt · · Score: 3, Informative
    Pamela Jones wrote:

    "Hahahaha. Maybe this is the key?

    SNCP has developed a business plan for SCO that includes unveiling new product lines aimed at global customers. This reorganization plan will also enable the company to see SCO's legal claims through to their full conclusion.
    That's code, I think, for 'this will enable the company to continue to attack Linux'."
  19. Groklaw Coverage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080214125705140

    Can't believe they forgot the Groklaw link!

  20. bad slasher flick by russ1337 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its like some really bad slasher flick where the bad guy just..... won't.... fucking.... die...., and the audience gets tired of all the inventive ways in which they are bought back to life....


  21. Only thing left... by WarJolt · · Score: 5, Funny

    After a nuclear holocost the only thing left will be cockroaches, twinkies and SCO. If you chop off the heads of SCO lawyers they continue to live for a week. Just when you think they're dead those tiny little litigating arms start moving again.

  22. Norris won't sue Novell or IBM by Peter+Trepan · · Score: 5, Funny

    He'll just roundhouse kick them until they sue themselves.

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    1. Re:Norris won't sue Novell or IBM by CODiNE · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your usage of the word "until" seems to imply that Chuck needs to kick more than once. You are sadly mistaken.

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  23. its a worldwide trend by uss · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My wife went to law school and is now a practicing Attorney at a pure IP (Intellectual Property) NYC firm for a few years now.

    There is an ongoing mad scramble to snag IP assets of all kinds.
    (Key word: ALL KINDS)

    I have been a long time IT person, and I happen to also be able to this peek into this neo-IP world, so I have a sense of deja vu -- similar to the dot-com frenzied land-grab --except that there are NO joe six packs doing the investing, just ultra-rich+ultra-smart professionals.

    If anything is copyrighted (not patented) it has value for an infinite time frame. Grab onto it.
    This may be yettunnadder instance of where /. is wrong, and the market is right.

  24. I am worried by syphax · · Score: 3, Insightful
    There's that old saying,

    Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

    Stupidity cannot adequately explain this move, which leaves...
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  25. THe ??? bit by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hire your brother (Kevin McBride) as a lawer and pay him a pile of legal fees (thereby getting the money out of the sinking ship and back onto dry land, but out of reach of the investors).

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  26. One clarification by drgould · · Score: 5, Insightful

    SCO is proposing to go private.

    Right now they can't buy paperclips without Judge Gross's permission (ok, I'm exaggerating, but only a little).

    The US Trustee, Novell and IBM are all going to over the plan with a fine-tooth comb and the judge isn't going to approve it just on SCO's say-so. This could be like the York deal that SCO tried to push though last year, all smoke and mirrors.

    So don't go getting your shorts in a bunch just yet.

    1. Re:One clarification by fermion · · Score: 3, Informative
      Further clarification. I believe this deal, if it happens, is initially only worth $5 million.

      My first impression is that the bankruptcy are having, or are about to have, some expanding negative effect. This seems a relatively cheap way to solve the problem. If SCO is private, pays off all debtors, then they can defend against external scrutiny, and are free to do as they wish.

      The $ 100 million dollar pledge is simply there to say that the company will be funded well enough to pay off future obligations, should they manifest. Furthermore, the additional monies do not seem to be an investment, but a line of credit that the firm will have to repay.

      So, in effect, this is appears to be some sort of fancy consolidation loan. Certainly likely done as some sort of personal favor, but I bet no one losses money on it. One hears about these kind of tax shelters all the time.

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  27. SCO Sitcom by EEPROMS · · Score: 4, Funny

    Watching the shenanigans of SCO has turned into the geek equivalent of Dallas for geeks.

    This week on SCO
    Novel "oh my god!, Im sure I killed him"
    SCO "Im baaaaack and I have 100 million dollars"
    Red Hat "what crack monkey gave him money ?"

    1. Re:SCO Sitcom by EEPROMS · · Score: 4, Funny

      Meanwhile in the Valley

      IBM "Im going to fist you till you scream Oracle"
      Oracle "your disgusting, say you truly want me again that turns me on"
      IBM "I....."
      [PAUSE]
      Oracle "whats wrong ?"
      IBM "I just felt a stirring in the source.... almost like millions of programmers said WTF!!"

  28. Wrong by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Informative

    > SCO has received $100 million financing

    SCO has received nothing except offer (which is probably contingent on many conditions). They cannot accept it without permission of the bankruptcy court. To read some actual facts go to Groklaw.

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  29. Hey SCO is in Bankruptcy Court by kilgortrout · · Score: 5, Informative

    And you can't do a deal like this without authorization from the Bankruptcy Court. This will probably all be part of a Chapter 11 plan of reorganization the details of which have yet to be filed by SCO. The devil is in the details with these things and you can be sure SCO will be out to screw all general unsecured creditors; that's pretty much par for the course in all Chapter 11 plans. Also, expect a lot of Bankruptcy Court litigation over the status of Novell's claim, i.e. SCO will attempt to lump them in with the other general unsecured creditors and Novell will assert its trust theory. At any rate the post petition funding here will not be available to SCO's pre-petition creditors, including Novell. All those claims are dealt with in the CH 11 Plan and are discharged by the approval of the Plan.

  30. No Patents by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    None of SCO's claims in any of their lawsuits involve patents.

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  31. Capital expects returns. by gnutoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is not capitalism at work, it's predatory behavior and something anti-trust lawyers should sink their teeth into. There is no reasonable expectation of return on SCO's "business" because SCO is full of shit and every decision has been against them. This is just another $100 million that M$ does not mind pissing away. The "investment" harms the reputation of all involved.

    1. Re:Capital expects returns. by turbidostato · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "This is not capitalism at work, it's predatory behavior and something anti-trust lawyers should sink their teeth into."

      Then it *is* capitalism at work by its very definition. Why do you think you need anti-trust laws but because growing monopolies is a known ill-effect of capitalism in action?

      I don't think I need to say anything about the relationship between predatory behaviour and capitalism, do I?

    2. Re:Capital expects returns. by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is just another $100 million that M$ does not mind pissing away.

      I don't understand how this cash injection serves Microsoft's interests. SCO is on track to lose all of its court cases. This will only serve to confirm that Linux has a clean code base.

      What Microsoft should do is sell SCO a dozen of its 236 bullshit patents it claims Linux violates and have SCO launch the patent lawsuits. Then Microsoft can pretend to be innocent and avoid a patent Armageddon scenario with IBM and other players.

    3. Re:Capital expects returns. by hardburn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How many companies exist that would invest in a company that has no actual customers, already in chapter 11, and stuck in drawn-out legal proceedings that it almost certainly won't win? Microsoft has already undeniably helped SCO before, and they do have enough money to throw around that $100 million isn't too much to spend on a longshot.

      So even if there's not direct evidence, there's also a very short list of people with $100 million sitting around who would want to invest in SCO. If it's not Microsoft, then I'd like to know who, because I've got a Perpetual Motion Machine for them to invest in next.

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    4. Re:Capital expects returns. by Knuckles · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A pure free-market capitalist system

      Stop bringing up "pure free markets" in discussions about capitalism, really. Pure free markets have properties that will never exist in reality, such as equally complete and correct information for all players.

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    5. Re:Capital expects returns. by nebosuke · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Capitalist free markets, as described in every econ text I've studied, assume the objective, universal enforcement of market regulations on all participants, not a total lack of regulation (that would be anarchy, not capitalism). Capitalism thus differs from socialism or communism not by lacking market regulation, but in that the latter two advocate a privileged, active market role for the state.

      A 'pure' free market does not refer to a lack of regulation, but a market in which the government enjoys no special privilege over private enterprise. The logical conclusion of such a system would result in privatized police forces, fire companies, etc. competing on equal terms with the analogous government entities. Both government and private enterprise would still be subject to regulation.

      Consequently, capitalist arguments against anti-trust laws are not inherent to capitalism in general, but are made from the position that that class of regulation does not result in a more productive economy. In contrast, regulations that capitalists generally consider to be necessary for a healthy free market economy would be contract law and property law.

      Then it *is* capitalism at work by its very definition. Why do you think you need anti-trust laws but because growing monopolies is a known ill-effect of capitalism in action? No. The existence of anti-trust laws does not provide an argument either for or against the efficacy of capitalist free markets, as there is nothing anti (or pro) capitalist about them.

      I don't think I need to say anything about the relationship between predatory behaviour and capitalism, do I? Predatory behavior is alive and well in all socio-economic systems. They simply provide different mechanisms by which one becomes either predator or prey.
    6. Re:Capital expects returns. by FireFury03 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It was suggested a while ago that SCO's assets wouldn't be able to anywhere near cover the amount they owe Novell, so I shall sit back and watch Novell suck a big chunk of this investment out of SCO. :)

    7. Re:Capital expects returns. by alexgieg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Stop bringing up "pure free markets" in discussions about capitalism, really. Pure free markets have properties that will never exist in reality, such as equally complete and correct information for all players.
      No, it does not. Who talks about "complete information" are Keynesian economists who themselves develop these hypothetical models, then misattribute them to the (actual) free market theorists all the while showing they don't exist in reality, as a means of defending their system of government-managed semi-free market economy. It's a typical case of straw man argument.

      When you go read actual free market theorists, such as Friedrich Hayek and other libertarians, you can clearly and undoubtedly see they starting with the exact opposite assumption. For them, knowledge of the present is always partial, incomplete, uncertain and most of the time subjective, and even more so when we talk about the future, and that's why free market is better. Were it not the case and a planned economy would be feasible. But since it isn't actually the case, then millions and millions of partially-knowledgeable people reacting almost instantly to fast changes happening around them ends up necessarily producing a better outcome than a bunch of partially-knowledgeable central planners whose decisions, all of which are almost by definition knowledgeless, are not only slow in reacting to changes, but all have the potential of badly affecting huge amounts of people in the same, simultaneous, exact way.

      Hayek even went so far as to analyze whether technological advances in data gathering and information processing could in theory reach a point where a managed or planned economy would be able to surpass the effectiveness of fast-reacting, imperfect-knowledge-based free market. His conclusion? That if a planned economy had access to infinite processing power, infinite memory etc. it would still reach, at best, the same effectiveness of the free market. But surpass it? Nope, sorry.

      It's unfortunate that, since anti-free-market theorist keep misrepresenting what libertarians think and say, they don't take the time to study and understand these fine analytical points. If they did, actually productive talk could be established. Alas, they don't, and it doesn't.
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    8. Re:Capital expects returns. by Knuckles · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hayek et al. do not have a monopoly on the term. Just because they define "free market" in a certain way does not mean that opposing definitions or view points are a priori invalid. It's a fact that I will be always at a disadvantage compared to corporations and industry groups who employ whole organizations whose sole purpose is to spin and lie until the cows come home (that is, marketing and lobbying experts). I do not have the time nor the inclination to fully research every item I buy or eat.

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    9. Re:Capital expects returns. by JimDaGeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Man, you live in la-la-land. There is no such thing as a true "free-market" capitalist system, outside of books that is. It is the nature of greed that will always prevent a true "free-market" capitalist system from forming.

      Big company A and Big company B have some strong competition from medium companies C, D, E and F. Big companies A and B are likely to join forces, either by a merger or by back-room nudge-wink deals to "compete" against C, D, E and F until they can bring them down. Once that happens, A and B can either merge to form a "mother" company like the old AT&T or "compete".

      The goal of all public companies is to maximize profits, everything else be damned.

      I think it all actually follows the theory's of how a solar system is formed. Many small bodies, begin to merge to form larger and larger bodies. You eventually end up with a few large dominating bodies. Yup, that has been Capitalism as we have seen it since the beginning.

      Once a company becomes one of the large dominating body's, then they have total control of a market and there is no longer any such thing as a "free market".

      It is really simple actually. Say I start selling corn as a corn farmer and have 100 other farms I compete with. I do some good business deals and I am able to buy up other farmers crops/land. I get bigger. Nothing wrong with that in a free market. However, they bigger I get, the more power I have and the easier it is to buy more land/power. Soon, I am the only player as a corn farmer. What happened to the "free market"? It is not gone? Consumers no longer have the power to "vote" with their money to influence the market. I and I alone hold it all. I can raise the price of my corn, I can lower the quality to "cut costs", I can lay off workers and give my executives bonuses at the same time, etc, etc.

      The same thing goes for investing. Try to be an "average Joe" and get rich with $5,000USD to invest. Now say you have $1,000,00USD to invest. Wow, what a difference. You can turn that $1,000,000 into big bucks fast. Good luck with only $5,000. What is that saying about the golden rule? He who has the gold makes the rules? Or something?

      A completely "free-market" capitalist system will never work, just like a complete system based on communism or socialism will never work. To me the best system seems to be... a balanced system! Not too left, not too right, etc, etc. Regulations against any company owning too much of a sector is a good thing IMO. Regulations bought by companies with tons of cash like MS, IBM, Walmart, etc is a bad thing. Companies should NOT be allowed to have any say in the political process of any country. The individual employees of the company can, as individuals, but that is it. Oh, I don't think any politician should be allowed "campaign contributions" as well. They are called bribes in my book. The "representatives" already make a very good salary, something like 5X the average American. Not to mention, health care for life, if they retire, raises for life. Sounds pretty freaking sweet to me.

      However, we won't see this in the USA as long as companies are able to bribe our "representatives" with millions USD per year.

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  32. how is this a bad thing? by Alterion · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i think we should be welcoming this, this way novell ibm and the rest of the linux community will get every penny of the money they're owned, which goes back into linux and into opensource, if the bin laden / bush coalition want to pour money effectively into linux to stop MS's dirty laundry from being aired it seems a good thing to me than the far more shady ways they would doubtless otherwise employ.

  33. Re:Irrational exuberance... or? by phrostie · · Score: 5, Funny

    maybe they want a tax credit for donating to a non-profit organization

  34. Perhaps there is some insider knowledge here. by WebCowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nobody running a successful LBO firm is stupid enough to make this ridiculous lawsuit the central part of an execution plan.

    The Statements in the release are quite lawyerly indeed. The funding is in place, IN PART, to "see SCO's legal claims through to their full conclusion". PJ interprets this to mean "continue to attack Linux", and indeed the deal suggests that is something these investors would like to see returns from: the vast majority of this $100M is not hard cash to be handed over in one lump sum loan, it is a "line of credit" to fund continued operations and part of financing this line of credit would be, IIRC, 17% of any monetary judgments in SCO's favour.

    However, I cannot believe that the smart people behind SNCP sincerely think they have a good chance of actually WINNING the lawsuit. I think it's more of a "lottery ticket"--lawyers make sure their butts are covered, and that they'll be able to screw ove...errr I mean "receive compensation" under all circumstances. "Continue to pursue" litigation "to their full conclusion" could very well be code words for "finally put it to rest". They apparently have a plan that includes the legal stuff but haven't released details (and taking SCO private would mean they don't ever have to do so). That plan very likely incorporates (or entirely consists of) a contingency plan. It looks pretty bleak to reverse the decision on copyright ownership, but they can appeal a judgment on royalties owed to Novell and get out of paying tens of millions. The same goes for any counter-suits from the likes of IBM or Red Hat. SNCP may think they have the ability to get SCO out of hot water without paying out as much (or any) money.

    In short, their legal strategy might (wisely) be a defensive strategy to cut their losses and move on. To paraphrase that cute song "if I had a (hundred) million dollars", well, I'd "buy me a SCO" too actually, and that would almost be my legal plan, though I'd be more apt to not put too much effort in "cut the losses" and settle out of court. If I was some LBO billionaire dude I'd buy SCO, and when judgment came I'd say "here's your money Novell", and subsequently settle all other disputes quickly. Then I'd promptly GPL UNIXWare and OpenServer and use what's left of the technical people to refocus SCO as a "solutions provider" to target the thousands of SCO users around the world with UNIXWare/OpenServer-to-Linux migration plans. Anything of redeeming value in the newly-GPLed legacy OS products would then be incorporated into a "LinuxWare" distribution tailored to be as close as possible to a drop-in replacement for existing SCO customers.

    The background of SNCP and their "middle eastern partners" really make me uncomfortable though. Those stated partners include the Saudi prince who is Bill Gates' investment partner in the Four Seasons hotel chain. These are legally-savvy business tycoons. I cannot see them taking the "Mark Shuttleworth act of benevolency" approach that I'd take. They are no doubt acting with convincing insider knowledge. I think that there might be a few motivators for this investment:

    * They might have a convincing legal argument to overturn some of the judgements against them--for example they might be able to retain copyright to at least portions of UNIX, and that would at least allow the IBM lawsuit to move forward and keep the FUD coming for Microsoft.

    * They are trying to stem customer migrations to Linux. I have no doubt that even if Microsoft isn't tied to this deal that BillG *is* in some capacity, and he obviously has the betterment of Microsoft in his self interest. The business plan outside the legal battle may be in fact to steer SCO customers towards Microsoft solutions, and perhaps to eventually have MSFT absorb SCO entirely. If you combine that with the first point, that would mean MSFT could end up with some UNIX copyright ownership--a great piece of IP to leverage if you wished to embrace, extend and extinguish *real* UNIX operating systems of all kinds (like

  35. Depends on how much you mean by much... by crimson30 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Cockroaches don't fare much better than humans to radiation.

    From wikipedia:

    It is popularly suggested that cockroaches will "inherit the earth" if humanity destroys itself in a nuclear war. Cockroaches do indeed have a much higher radiation resistance than vertebrates, with the lethal dose perhaps 6 to 15 times that for humans. However, they are not exceptionally radiation-resistant compared to other insects, such as the fruit fly. The MythBusters of Discovery Channel had tested this popular belief in an episode aired on January 30, 2008, and had confirmed that fruit flies do indeed have a higher resistance to radiation than cockroaches.

    The cockroach's ability to withstand radiation better than human beings can be explained in terms of the cell cycle. Cells are more vulnerable to effects of radiation when they are dividing. A cockroach's cells divide only once when in its molting cycle, which at most happens weekly in a juvenile roach. The cells of the cockroach take roughly 48 hours to complete a molting cycle, which would give time enough for radiation to affect it but not all cockroaches would be molting at the same time. This would mean some would be unaffected by the initial radiation and thus survive, at least until the fallout arrived.

  36. This doesn't really help SCO much by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative

    This doesn't do that much for SCO. It gives Novell, IBM and Red Hat cash to go after. Remember, there are substantial legal claims against SCO, and those claims are on much stronger grounds than SCO's claims against anybody.

    SCO is headed for their day in court:

    U.S. District Court - District of Utah - Court Calendar
    Honorable Dale A. Kimball
    Tuesday, 04/29/2008
    08:30 am: SCO Grp v. Novell Inc (2:04-cv-00139-DAK-BCW) Bench Trial

    The only question in that trial is how much money SCO owes Novell. SCO will appeal, but they are unlikely to win.