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Scientists Find Solar System Like Ours

mlimber writes "The NYTimes has up a story about the discovery of a solar system that is analogous to ours. Of the 250 or so exoplanets found thus far, 'few of them are in systems that even faintly resemble our own. In many cases, giant Jupiter-like planets are whizzing around inside the orbit of Mercury,' whereas in this new system, 'a planet about two-thirds of the mass of Jupiter and another about 90 percent of the mass of Saturn are orbiting a reddish star about half the mass of the Sun, at about half the distances that Jupiter and Saturn circle our own Sun.' The researchers used gravitational microlensing to detect the planets, and two of the lead authors of the paper to be published in Science are amateur astronomers, one of whom describes herself as 'an ordinary New Zealand mother.'"

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  1. Scale Model by milsoRgen · · Score: 5, Funny

    A world populated by 3 foot tall humans! How cute!

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    1. Re:Scale Model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Mytbusters often start with scale experiments before moving on to the real thing. Why shouldn't God?

  2. Re:Misleading headlines suck by provigilman · · Score: 5, Insightful
    A PC and a watch aren't very similar, but a PC and a laptop are, even if they're different scales. One could also assume, from knowing that they're somewhat similar, that the laptop might contain some of the same components such as an HDD, RAM and a modem/ethernet/wifi device.

    The same applies here. We're seeing a sun that's roughly half the size of our Sun with at least two planets roughly the size of some our gas giants that are orbiting it at half the distance. Since previously we've only seen stuff that would be impossible in our solar system, this is the closest we've come to it.

    Now, no one is saying it's identical. The two large planets could be the only things in the system, or there could be some small rocky worlds closer in that we can't see yet. The fact that two planets that we can detect are similar in scale to two of ours could infer that there are other planets similar in scale to our own in orbits similar to our own.

    There could be a Mars-size planet in orbit more like that of Venus, but because the sun is smaller and cooler it might actually be temperate like Earth. Out of what we've seen so far, this is the best hope for finding Earth-like life, or a possible colonization opportunity for humans.

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  3. Mothers by arizwebfoot · · Score: 5, Funny

    two of the lead authors of the paper to be published in Science are amateur astronomers, one of whom describes herself as 'an ordinary New Zealand mother.

    We've all known that mothers can see things no else has managed to prove.
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  4. Re:Misleading headlines suck by Thomas+M+Hughes · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, that IS like ours then ...sorry! I forgot about scale etc etc /sarcasm Easy to fix. It's "like" ours for certain values of "like".
  5. ANOTHER Solar System?!? by Mish · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is only one Solar System

    For those who care, the "SOLar System" is named because of the system of stars around... (wait for it) Sol (the name of our Sun).
    To find another Solar System would indicate that they've found that our Sun occipies two points in space and time and has another seperate group of stars associated with it.

    What they've found is another "Star System" like ours.

    I'm not posting to be petty, just for those that are interested. :)

  6. Re:Misleading headlines suck by popmaker · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes it is, but it only costs about $27 million.

  7. Re:NYT Got Lensing Effect Wrong by Sleipnir64 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Being a graduate student at one of the universities involved, i did some modeling on this event (although we weren't quite up with the game, so our findings weren't used in the report).

    The term 'lensing' is a bit of a misnomer, as that implies that you're looking at the source star; which is essentially a giant flashlight that allows us to probe the lens for information about it's planets.

    The lens star acts to bend the light from the source, creating multiple and distorted images of it (which are too close together to resolve). Observing the sky from earth, these multiple images have the effect of increasing the net flux measured (in laymans terms, the star gets brighter).
    When the lens star has planets (especially, as in this case, one close to what as known as the 'einstein ring') it causes large perturbations to the (otherwise fairly simple) lightcurve. With appropriate mathematical models and massive amounts of computing power, the parameters that give the best fitting theoretical lightcurve can be found.
    Combining this with external information and a good dose of physical and statistical insight, it is possible to say to a reasonable degree of confidence (usually never 100%) that you have found such and such a system.

    In reality, the astronomers who measure the data are only a very small part of the overall picture, but the media find a much better story in "amateur astronomer finds extrasolar planets" than "scientists use computer grid to minimize 10 dimensional chi^2 hypersurface" so they get all the attention.

  8. Re:meh by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I for one look forward to reading his rebuttal in the the journal of science.

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