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Microsoft to Give Away Developer Tools to Students
beuges writes "The Associated Press is reporting that Microsoft will make full versions of their development tools available to students.
"The Redmond-based software maker said late Monday it will let students download Visual Studio Professional Edition, a software development environment; Expression Studio, which includes graphic design and Web site and hybrid Web-desktop programming tools; and XNA Game Studio 2.0, a video game development program. Gates said students will want to try Microsoft's tools because they're more powerful than the open-source combination of Linux-based operating systems, the Apache Web server, the MySQL database and the PHP scripting language used to make complex Web sites.
But Gates said giving away Microsoft software isn't intended to turn students against open source software entirely. Rather, he hopes it will just add one more tool to their belt.""
Why don't they give away the sourcecode for Windows to students? This would be far more beneficial to them especially if they hold on to the rights of created/modified windows. Then they might have a viable OS for the future.
In other news, Jimmy De Brondi, a local crack dealer at Sando-Brando University sues Microsoft for illegally using his patented business practice.
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Funny you should mention emacs.... :)
This sounds like that time the guy down on the street corner gave me some "candy" for free. Next thing I know, I can stay up for for days straight and I'm paying the guy big bucks for more "candy" that I can't now live without.
I got a catholic block.
As a DOT NET developer, I use MS VS. Why not? I love the autocomplete and the list of Properties and Events for each control once I type the name of the control. Makes me look like a wizard when the boss is watching me code (urk) and I toss in a SqlDataSource, a DropDownList, type "ddlGetStates." and select Databind, save, alt-tab, refresh BAM!!! States DDL... (ok, before you mod me MS Fan-boi, keep reading...)
But then I go home, and having thought of a great feature on the drive home, I FTP into my site, open with a text editor, (insert notepad/BBedit/eMacs/Vi here to taste), and write the code by hand. Even if that means copying an pasting, I... how shall I say this... ***still have to know what I'm doing***. Yeah, all you n00bs, you drag and drop those controls and use F4 to set the properties...Go 'head...
But the minute you have to do that with your ARMPIT, you are sunk. I took a written (the process of leaving graphite trails on paper) test for ASP.NET once... Unless you know what your are doing, you are screwed. Use whatever tools you want, whatever LAMP/.NET. But make sure you learn what you are doing, and not just doing.
Correlation does not always indicate causality though, of course. It's just the notion that a tool is required to be of a certain size to be professional that is amusing. I guess while Microsoft has been trying to catch up to this whole internet thing, that they got sidetracked and ended up adopting pornstar like philosophies.
which is totally what she said
Who said anything about desire? This is Microsoft. They have money and power. A full sixth of the world population will be forced or bribed to code for them. This is their latest plan for beating Open Source.
Damn, I just made my first journal about this...
The other fun wording I found on the page is:
Download your products
I thought the products were the property of Microsoft? If I download this, can I assume full legal ownership of my copy?
Every time I start to have faith in humanity, I ruin it by driving to work between 7 and 8 am.
Well, once upon a time the GNU tools used to be installed more often from disks or tapes you bought from FSF than downloaded, because of what at the time were large file sizes.
Yes. They were professional then.
"If anything can go wrong, it will." - Murphy
I can't wait until they add a WGA-like feature. "We're sorry, but you are no longer verified as a student"...
What is this "correct use of xml" that you talk about?
Some possibilities?
<for>
<target_market>
Dummies
</target_market>
</for>
</xml>"
Maybe we should sprinkle the DTDs with some DDT.
Kevin Smith on Prince
Your recommended specs for a glorified text editor made me snort milk out of my nose. I hadn't done that since the 1st grade. Thanks for bringing back the memories.
I have found there are just two ways to go.
It all comes down to livin' fast or dyin' slow. -REK, Jr.
so yea.. first of make sure your computer works before you complain about the software not running on it.
'...if only "Jumping to a Conclusion" was an event in the Olympics.'
That's not big at all, for an OS manual!
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
Emacs 2.2: 36Mb zipped. (http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/windows/)
Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition: 2.2Gb required disk space (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vs2008/products/bb894726.aspx)
They got an entire operating system into 36Mb?
Probably because they left out the editor. That's the 2.2 Gb. ^.^
DATABASE WOW WOW
Code completion? Syntax highlighting? Bah. That's not how real programmers do the job
I gave Eclipse a spin, just a few weeks ago. It was a confusing, frustrating and fruitless experience. I wasted a whole afternoon trying to get it working.
So, just like Visual Studio then?
Nope, real programmers use butterflies
I am d3matt
Simulating the targeting of Windows and Linux Platforms with missiles might be a bit overkill even for a MS Studio Developer.
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