UK Report Slams EULAs
draevil writes "Britain's National Consumer Council has completed an investigation into the practice of software End User License Agreements(EULAs) with the conclusion that many consumers are signing away their legal rights and agreeing to unfair terms, which they could never have scrutinized before purchase. The report also acknowledges that even if the EULA were available prior to purchase, it would be unreasonable to expect an average consumer to understand the terms to which they were agreeing. Here are the full report (PDF) and a summary." The NCC recommends that the European Commission bring softwre licenses under the same consumer protections that apply to other products in the EU.
UK consumers who have reason to contest contract terms would likely be protected by the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977.
GPL != EULA as you don't have to agree to the GPL.
> Contract's a contract...
Under UK law that's not entirely true. If a contract employs unfair clauses those clauses can be nullified. An analogy is, if you borrow £10000 from me and agree that (a) you will repay it with 12 months, and (b) if you don't repay it I can break your legs. This is unfair: if the contract was challenged in court it's highly likely that (a) you would have to repay the debt, and (b) I could not break your legs if you didn't repay within the specified time-frame.
IANAL etc etc
This is where the serious fun begins.
GPL is a distribution license, not an EULA. Section 0 specifically says you don't need to agree to it to use the software.
GPL doesn't take away any of your (end users) rights under copyright law, it adds additional rights.
GPL (at least GPL2) is readable and pretty much understandable by mere mortals.
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In college I asked a law professor about EULAs and his take was that (generally speaking) EULAs are enforceable only if the buyer has had an opportunity to review them prior to the sale. I think this is a reasonable argument, especially since in practice you cannot return opened boxes of software. He would be the first to acknowledge that this has not been widely tested in court however so take what I'm saying with however much NaCl suits you.
If you start a new computer (w/ Vista) for the first time, you are presented with a screen to accept the EULA.
What's (NOT!) funny here is that the only option is to accept and click Next.
There is no option for Cancel. Just poweroff...
In the 1980s, Borland products came with a "treat it like a book" license.
It was written in Plain English. It essentially said you could trade, lend, buy, sell, resell, etc. as long as no more than one person had copies at a time and that the software wasn't being used on more than one computer at a time.
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Q: When is a contract NOT a contract?
A: When it is not legally valid and violates the law.
If there is no meeting of the minds, there is no contract, not matter what one party writes down.
If there is an adhesion contract where one party receives its consideration (money) before releasing the terms of its offer and the terms, when enforced are unconscionable, or if there is a mistake because the two parties reasonably think the terms of the contract to mean different things, a court can and should put such contracts aside. The fact that most people do not fight for there rights or that some judges may not correctly apply the law does not change the legal principles.
In most EULAs and TOS, there is no level playing field. Other than getting in on some sort of class action suit where all the money goes to the lawyers, there is no way most consumers will take on corporate lawyers. The EU is not into class actions like the US. It makes sense for the laws to level the playing field and keep contracts fair.
There are certainly issues that need to be worked out (e.g. some fairly ridiculous and one-sided provisions are common; if the terms are rejected, getting a refund for open software generally requires you to send a letter threatening to sue before they offer to take care of it), but similar devices are and have been a commonly used tool and will remain so.
And once again, the report, like Netscape and the other seminal cases people like to point to, don't go as far as people commonly believe they do. This report says that EULAs are unfair and overly complex. That is true; it doesn't mean they're saying EULAs themselves are wrong. As a consumer advocacy group, their job is to simplify and re-balance the terms. This is a great thing, but it's not an incrimination of the agreement as a tool, so don't lose sight of that.
They're totally different things. A Shrinkwrap EULA purports to change the nature of a preexisting sale, and is not voluntary. It further restricts access to the thing you purchased until you agree to be bound by additional restrictions.
Depriving someone of the ability to use the rights they legally have is actionable.
The GPL on the gripping hand, is a voluntary license offered for those who want extra rights. It acknowledges specifically that you do *not* need to even read the GPL to use the software.
EULA: Secret, withholds lawful rights, non-voluntary
GPL: voluntary, offers only additional rights, not secret
Shrinkwrap EULAs are not valid, the GPL is.
Copyright violation. In the USA, a judge has ruled that you need a contract to legally run software, since when activated the computer loads portions of the code into memory, which is considered copying, and additionally, most software also must first be copied and extracted from archives on the CD, creating a derivative work on your hard-drive.
Please cite, because that makes no sense. Of course IANAL, but US copyright law seems to specifically say that installing and running a program is not infringement.
117. Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs
(a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy. -- Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided:
(1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or
(2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful.
Copying files from CD/DVD to hard drive and into memory are essential steps to utilize most computer programs.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
The judge should rule that either:
*you had a contract with the store, in which case the product did not meet ordinary merchantability standards i.e. it would not work without imposing other obligations not present at the time of the contract, in which case you can void the contract
Part of the problem here is that in the UK, while you have some protections if you buy something that comes in a box, the general legislation (basically the Sale of Goods Act) may not apply to downloads that are purely electronic in nature because of some legal loopholes. It's not clear that under those circumstances there is any requirement of merchantability, suitability for a particular purpose, or similar.
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